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Bringing back the draft. Thoughts?

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PJS.
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http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/column-gen-mcchrystal-says-it-s-time-to-bring-back/article_574839ca-2755-5db4-a4a3-bafa73703f2f.html

Personally, I'm for it. When the country goes to war, all of its citizens should be affected. In that way everyone has skin in the game, and maybe there would be more resistance to getting into conflicts like Iraq.

what do you think, ns?
Jul 14 2012 1:17AM
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Zimmerman
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No. Fuck no. NO human should ever be forced to fight. EVER. Not in any situation.

Why the fuck should every citizen be involved in a war they didn't start? I can't believe this thread even happened.
Jul 15 2012 5:52PM
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Phil-X-
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Maybe if the war came to our shores, but I dont see the need to send drafted citizens overseas to fight wars that arent here. If my country and love ones were directly in danger because of it I would 100% be ok with the draft. However rather then be drafted I would likely enlist in the marines, rather then the army.

That being said, if there was a draft over something really stupid, that I honestly believed wasnt worth my life, and I mean really redic. Like Obama declares war with mexico and a draft or some shit. I would defiantly be breaking out my polish citizenship papers.



(Funny story, my friend has citizenship in like 4 different countries cause his family is filled with the biggest liberal idiots ever. Theyd ship him away the moment a draft would be mentioned)
Jul 15 2012 6:02PM
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Zimmerman
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-In no situation should a draft EVER happen I don't care if we are invaded or it's fucking WWII.
-To people already in the military who say they are all for it, surprise surprise.
-If I were issued a draft notice, I would burn it and shit on the ashes. I would flee to Canada somehow, and if I got caught, I would go to prison with the pride that I had the COURAGE to do the right thing, instead of bowing to a shitty government and going to a war I don't support.
Jul 15 2012 6:17PM
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asfdfads
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time to get my dual citizenship, canada here i come
Jul 15 2012 6:25PM
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987321654hgfd
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"The army's infantry is its most essential component. Even today, no army can take and hold any ground without the use of infantry."

"Aerial bombardment can obliterate, but only infantry can occupy"
Jul 15 2012 6:34PM
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Zimmerman
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He said less important, not obsolete.
Jul 15 2012 6:35PM
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987321654hgfd
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I'm aware, but the foot soldier will never really lose it's importance.
Jul 15 2012 6:41PM
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Zimmerman
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I agree. Unless we can somehow develop infantry robots that is.
Jul 15 2012 6:47PM
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Bill.Nye
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I give it 15 years tops.
Jul 15 2012 6:48PM
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Mike-O
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Jul 15 2012 6:49PM
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987321654hgfd
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Hahaha Skynet will be here soon enough.
Jul 15 2012 6:49PM
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_DUSTY_
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They may develop basic ones by then but it will take much longer for them to become cost effective.
Jul 15 2012 7:04PM
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artfullydodged
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Mandates don't really fly in America. We are not about making people do things against their will here.

Therefore I say we should make impose a tax on all those eligible to fight who refuse to go to war. That makes it okay.
Jul 15 2012 7:08PM
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PacificRimJob
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Biggest reason that the Draft will never happen in the same capacity it was during Korea, Vietnam, and before, is because the next time it happens, they're going to have to enlist women, or else there's going to be some serious backlashing on the part of a lot of dudes.

If any president in the future institutes the draft, I will sue the government to high heaven (along with pretty much every other penis clad dude) for mens rights based on the fact that if women want out of the kitchen, they're also going to need to pick up a gun and groundpound with the boys in the event of a draft.

Equal rights means equal everything. You can't pick and choose, bitches. We aren't just here to make the first move, pick up the tab, AND pick up the gun... There's no way it's constitutional otherwise.

And you know, that if that sort of thing ever got into courts, it would stall any war draft before it even started. Womens groups would flip a new one and hooooly fuck there would be a domestic shitstorm in such an event.

Problem solved. No women. No draft.
Jul 15 2012 7:08PM
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Malcolm
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I'm for it as long as the politicians also go to war.
Jul 15 2012 7:10PM
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PacificRimJob
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Yup. I'm also for non-universal healthcare, as long as the politicians don't get state-paid for healthcare for themselves and their entire families and the rest of the people don't.
Jul 15 2012 7:12PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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i will not die because two other men who claim to be in charge are unable to agree about something.
Jul 15 2012 7:19PM
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El_Barto.
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They may take our lives, but they can never take our FREEEEEEEDDDOOOOOOOOOM
Jul 15 2012 7:24PM
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PacificRimJob
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Wrong country.
Jul 15 2012 7:32PM
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_DUSTY_
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This is why you are one of my favorite posters on this site.
Jul 15 2012 7:35PM
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icon1234
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dual citizenship ftw! I would peace out pretty fast.
Jul 15 2012 7:49PM
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El_Barto.
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It still applies dillhole
Jul 15 2012 7:53PM
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Zimmerman
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That would not in any way be okay.
Jul 15 2012 7:57PM
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Ducky.
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Jul 15 2012 8:06PM
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Bill.Nye
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I doubt it. Humans are expensive, especially when they're wounded and you have to pay to fix them.
Jul 15 2012 8:18PM
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PacificRimJob
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hahaha.
Jul 15 2012 8:29PM
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PlaygroundRapist
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Jul 15 2012 8:34PM
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987321654hgfd
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Peace isn't real.
Jul 15 2012 8:40PM
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PlaygroundRapist
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It's better then needless killing and destruction.
Jul 15 2012 8:42PM
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skiskate
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I have my own gun thank you very much. If somebody invades my country ill gladly fight back, On my terms, get jihad up in this bitch. If my government wants to enforce a draft to invade somewhere else, ill be staying in the mountains on my own.
Jul 15 2012 8:52PM
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_DUSTY_
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Damn hippies thinking that our nations can thrive by relying on all peace and no war. Yes I agree war is horrible however I would prefer to live in a country where people fight for the freedom of themselves and others over a country ruled by a strict fascist government.
Jul 16 2012 12:51AM
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F-Beezy
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i say that if we go that far and i get drafted (which i dont see any time in the near future unless something drastic happens) ima break a bone so bad i gotta get a metal pin or plate put in. problem solved no draft for me
Jul 16 2012 12:57AM
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fujarome
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peace is an unattainable goal. World peace will never, ever happen unless we had the biggest war of them all.
Jul 16 2012 1:07AM
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KillaSeason
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haha go ahead with it. cant draft my type 1 diabetic ass so i dont give a fuck!!!
Jul 16 2012 1:12AM
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Funkadelic
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Yeah I'm not concerned. I already have 2 screws in my left knee cap.
Jul 16 2012 1:13AM
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feihlination
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irrelevant post is irrelevant
Jul 16 2012 7:02AM
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skifoo
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Ah the troops doesn't matter in modern war when it begins.

It's all about who dares to send the biggest bomb.
Jul 16 2012 8:42AM
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Zimmerman
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I leave for Windells with this.

Fire
The sun is well asleep
The moon is high above
But fire grows from the East
And how is this
Hate so deep?
Lead us all so blindly, killing, killing
Fools are we
If hate's the gate to peace
This is the last stop.


Oh is War
The only way to peace
Well, I don't fall for that
You're Raining tears
You're righteous, so righteous, SO RIGHTEOUS
You're always so right
Go ahead and dream
Go ahead believe that you are the chosen one.

Rain tears...

Oh no
Gracious even God
Bloodied on the cross
Your sins are washed enough
A mother's cry:
"Is hate so deep
Must my baby's bones
This hungry fire feed?"
Smoke clouds roll in
The symphony of death
This is the last stop.

Scream
Right is wrong now
Ha, shut up you big lie
Oh and the "black is white" lie
You comb your hair to
Hide your lying eyes
You're righteous, so righteous, SO RIGHTEOUS
You're always so right oh man
But why your lie
Go ahead and dream
Go ahead believe that you are the chosen one
This is the best stop.

Here there's always blowing up
And I hope that we can break it down
So it's not so black and white oh...
This is the last stop.

Here there's more than showing us
And I hope that we can break it down
So it's not so black and white
Black and white oh man...
You're righteous, you're righteous, you're RIGHTEOUS
You're always so right oh
And there you are nailing good to a tree
And then say forgive me, forgive me oh
Go ahead and dream
Go ahead believe that you are the chosen one
rain oh...

This is the last stop...

Here there is more than growing up
And I hope that we can break it back
It's not so black and white
So right...


Jul 16 2012 10:50PM
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GILLSKI
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one thing I think a lot of you forget is that you do not have full rights in the service

Jul 25 2012 1:33AM
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