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In the middle of a week as a bible camp leader. I'm an atheist.

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PJS.
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What's the biggest thing you've had to bullshit your way through, ns?
Jul 12 2012 6:39PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I had a similar experience, but it involved a bunch of born again study partners, a library room, and my last year of biology at UW, but it was sorta opposite.
Jul 13 2012 4:49AM
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GEORGEzimmerman
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i don't believe in a god and am anti religion and I've gone through catholic school my whole life and am about to graduate from a catholic high school. i bullshit all day in theology
Jul 13 2012 11:15AM
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tripnip
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i wish i could sig this. this is funny as hell.
Jul 13 2012 11:48AM
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tripnip
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Quite a few of my friends are very strictly religious and they always ask me to go to their club meetings and camps. it is the most awkward no.
Jul 13 2012 11:54AM
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sitty9.
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woodsy?!
Jul 13 2012 3:43PM
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Sno.
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you should have volunteered at camp SAMBICA...at least you'd have had a great time.
Jul 13 2012 3:49PM
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mophead
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i think people believe in religion so they can validate their lives. they fear the unknown and whichever "faith" they follow gives them an answer/ reason to live.
even though i respect everyone's views i can't help but consider someone completely ignorant if they are a strong believer in any religion, whether it be catholics, muslims, or buddhists. particularly religions that have a self proclaimed "prophet". these prophets are merely successful cult leaders, herding a bunch of scared sheep who can't think for themselves.


Jul 13 2012 6:52PM
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sitty9.
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ding ding ding
Jul 13 2012 6:58PM
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artfullydodged
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I agree with almost everything you said but I'd count out Buddhism seeing as Buddha never claimed to be a prophet of any sort.
Jul 13 2012 7:58PM
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Gods_Father
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amen
Jul 13 2012 8:23PM
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Amadeus.
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Hes not being arrogant at all. He is pointing out the fact that the indoctrination and brainwashing of children is bad. Isn't that always a bad thing no matter what belief system is involved?

Ill give you some arrogant atheist: I think that the christian religion is disgusting, stupid, pathetic, and for the weak minded. Also, I believe that atheists, agnostics, free-thinkers, and anyone who doesn't subscribe to a fixed/unchanging belief system is more mentally sound than any religious person.

Jul 13 2012 8:25PM
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JWoods
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What up?
Jul 13 2012 9:07PM
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mophead
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yeah i should have made that more clear, that's why i said "particularly religions with prophets" after that. even though i respect buddhism more, they still devote their lives to one man's ideas. buddhists' sexist view of women is also debatable.
Jul 13 2012 9:50PM
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sitty9.
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it's an honor to be quoted by you, sir.
Jul 13 2012 10:51PM
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c4t_l0ver
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.....haha....
Jul 14 2012 12:24AM
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joshua
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I would disagree, IMO Christians as a whole throughout history, have proven to be very strong against opposition. For example, during the holocaust, many Christians risked their lives hiding Jews when few others would.
Article: http://www.jcrelations.net/%22?id=2249%22
Jul 14 2012 1:15AM
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PJS.
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I would argue that that has less to do with them being Christians than them being good people. Too much of this debate is on anecdotal evidence like this.
Jul 14 2012 1:20AM
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joshua
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Fair enough, but IMO I think that because they were Christians, they were able to find the goodwill in them to follow through with selfless acts such as the article mentions. I'm not saying that it was ONLY Christians who did the right thing in that situation, I'm not sure at all if there even any statistics on that, but you get my point.
Jul 14 2012 1:27AM
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PJS.
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I do, but I also find it hard to be influenced by people who needed a 2000 year old example of morality to prevent the slaughter of innocent people.
Jul 14 2012 1:29AM
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Amadeus.
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Ha, you're kidding right? The catholic church supported Mussolini and the nazis. Hitler said christianity was the "unshakeable foundation of the moral and ethical life of our people" The belt buckles for the Wehrmacht were inscribed with "Gott Mit Uns" (God is with us) Whether or not you helped jews has nothing to do with being Christian.

Never say throughout history when talking about christianity, because most of Christian history is nothing but a bloody mess of immoral actions.
Jul 14 2012 1:33AM
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Amadeus.
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sorry for dub post, but i forgot to address the main point. Weak minded didnt mean to connote that they aren't ballsy or have strong convictions but rather that religious people need the father figure of god to constantly baby them, and help "guide" them like you said.

Using the Nazi example. Some who is irreligious would have to say I want to help Jews because I believe it is the right thing to do. A christians says I want to help the jews because i believe god believes it is right. The action is placed on the approval of someone else instead of taking personal responsibility.
Jul 14 2012 1:39AM
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JWoods
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Of course
Jul 14 2012 3:16AM
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