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Does anyone else ever think about the end of the universe?

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tronned
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I can not help but think about the death of the universe while I see the night sky. Eventually all the stars in the universe will burn out, and there will be only white dwarfs left for a short time then complete darkness and absolute cold. That is effectively the death of the universe and the scary part is that is out of anyone's control because of the laws of entropy.

Humans will be very long dead before this happens but what happens after the death of the universe? the timeframe that allows for life in the cosmos is incredibly low its something stupid like a billionth billionth of a ten thousandth of the life of the universe but there was still heat production up until the death of the stars.

When the stars die, the universe has infinite entropy so everything is one. There is no variation in matter in the universe and a constant temp level and light level across the universe with no matter formed.

Anyone think about this kind of stuff?
Jul 1 2012 4:08PM
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mowglii
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you suck at science
Jul 1 2012 4:11PM
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beezey
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I think that ya one day this universe will die but there is still a lot of space, whether it's an infinite or a mirrored Truncated Icosahedron as recent scientists have been studying up on. I am more interested in dark matter 'oiling' further and further into the universe. There are so many more interesting concept in space, time, and the affects of things rather than the universe dying. You should watch 'through the wormhole'
Jul 1 2012 4:14PM
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Drail
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Well... that's one theory. there's a few different theories as to what has, is, and will happen to the universe. Although it's more confusing (I admit, I don't fully grasp the concept in it's fullest), to me, it seams to be one of the more viable theories as to why the universe is even here at all.

I guess, what I'm saying is that you're looking at it all wrong. Next time, don't think about the end of the universe, just think about the universe - if you know what I mean.
Jul 1 2012 4:19PM
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Drail
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er - string theory that is... forgot that part. yeah, anyways.
Jul 1 2012 4:21PM
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Miomo
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There's a possibility that humans wills never go extinct. The universe will die out eventually, but no one can be certain that we won't be able to go back in time, create stars, or jump from universe to universe.
Jul 1 2012 4:27PM
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tronned
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even time travel and string theory points out the example that time will never travel in a reverse motion. You can not even "go back" in time, only speed up or travel forward through time.

Yeah there is a few theories of what will happen at the end of the universe which maybe followed with the universe collapsing on itself and having another big bang or if we are in one of the successions of the collapse and birth of the universe.

I personally believe in the fact that the universe will just end, but of course you will never know. It is almost disturbing to me to think that time will end at one point and the universe just becomes inert with no energy.

I know there is many mysteries in the universe and they have no idea how it all works but its fairly easy to see that all stars must die at a point in time and once they are all gone, it wont take long for the cosmos to "die".
Jul 1 2012 4:41PM
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FuckAllOfYou
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ol' stevie H. talks about this stuff all the time... the most likely end of the 'world' would be the universe collapsing on itself - on NASA's site there's an interesting section on that happening. It's funny because they say if you're not 13 you shouldn't be on that part of the site, haha
Jul 1 2012 6:52PM
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FuckAllOfYou
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{sorry for the dub}

but yeah what I just said has already been said so 'tevs
Jul 1 2012 6:54PM
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Miomo
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It's possible to go back in time. There are universes identical to this one, just behind in time. Therefore, if we can travels through universes, we can travel through time, both ways.
Jul 1 2012 8:00PM
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Drail
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are there now?
Jul 1 2012 8:09PM
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Jahburn
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I find the universe very interesting and mysterious. I love studying anti mater, dark mater and galaxies and regularly check out books about it at the library, and sometimes I am lucky enough to use UW telescope because my friends dad is super good friends with the professor.

Who the fuck knows what will happen with the end of the universe I doubt we ever will know. It amazes me that there is an actual end to the universe but I know there has to be. What is beyond our universe is my big question? I learned about the string theory and the and the theory in my physics class this year and the fact that there is a chance that there is another me in a different universe is simply amazing. I believe that when I die I will live that next life in that adjacent universe and one small variable will be different, but who knows I find death exciting and scary, because I want to see what happens next although I may never know what will happen. Who knows I may have lived trillions of lives before this life. I have thought a lot about what happens when you die and that is what my theory has become.
Jul 1 2012 8:23PM
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Heart
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Sometimes I try to imagine how we got here, and what there would be if no galaxies existed. What is nothingness? I cant wrap my mind around it. And what was there before the big bang?
Jul 1 2012 8:24PM
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Miomo
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Although, then again. What if universes exist in the same way that galaxies do? What if there are an infinite amount of universes in this "space".
Jul 1 2012 8:35PM
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ForeverYung
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This stuff hurts my mines
Jul 1 2012 9:19PM
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NinetyFour
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I know that feel bro. And anyways, this shit drives people crazy, my math teacher even told us a few stories about people who went nuts trying to ponder infinity.

While we are here though, I'm not too worried about it.

Jul 1 2012 9:25PM
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Gods_Father
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but seriously, you're acting like new stars are never born

Jul 1 2012 10:29PM
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Squeenerd
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space is a "time donut." if you go one way you will always end back up where you started eventually
Jul 1 2012 10:32PM
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Caspaaa
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the concept of death occupies my mind more often, and also scares me much more.

it's just.... nothing.... but it's not even nothing....
Jul 1 2012 10:38PM
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tronned
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star formation happens from supernova'ed stars and they spew gas and matter in a violent explosion and some of the energy is used up each time this happens or it is not recovered into a nebula. the stardust/energy that emanates from stars right now is not infinite, it is a consumable fuel. The numbers of stars will go down slowly and eventually over time, there will be only 1 left and that star will die.

the universe will end. at some future point all the energy available will be lost to entropy and the universe will achieve what is called 'heat-death'. there will be no usable energy. at that point, nothing else will happen at any level and time will cease. end of Universe
Jul 1 2012 10:43PM
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sitty9.
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this stuff's so scary, when you're under the influence of something.

my friend, calvin, and i had a good five or six hour conversation about all this shit a couple weeks ago. we were laying on my friends hammock, in his backyard. we were surrounded by woods on three sides and to our left was a lake. we kept hearing things and we managed to scare ourselves shitless. basically, by the end of the conversation, both us had confessed all of our intimate secrets and shit to each other and we both ended up crying haha. it was such a deep conversation. i can't even begin to explain it.

i sound like some dumbass 12 year old right now but it's all true. we were sober too, which makes it even more impressive.

now that i think about it, it sounds kinda gay.

it was literally life-changing, though.

whateva. ron paul 2012.
Jul 1 2012 10:45PM
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tronned
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keep in mind the true death of the universe is when blackholes die which i guess estimates place from our time right now... it will be 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years.... that is 1 with 101 zeros behind it. I was reading about theory of death of black holes and from hawking's theory the black holes will siphon out due to mismatched charged molecules close to the event horizon.


So that is a very long time from now, but due to the law of physics it can not be avoided and existence will end. What happens after that?
Jul 1 2012 10:53PM
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sitty9.
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it's so difficult to fathom the concepts of nothing and oblivion.
Jul 1 2012 10:55PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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there are a lot of people in this thread stating things like they are facts.
Jul 1 2012 11:18PM
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Squeenerd
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According to the laws of physics, matter is neither created or destroyed. So there must be an end
Jul 2 2012 1:04AM
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maynaiseman
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I jerked off into a bowl of soup last night. It was my brother's. I didn't tell him.
Jul 2 2012 1:10AM
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PON3
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Relevant video.



You sure it wasnt your own?
Jul 2 2012 1:13AM
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wellthisisold
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My brain hurts. So weird.
Jul 2 2012 1:16AM
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chicken
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I think about this from time to time. You can get pretty fucking deep into it though and every conversation on this subject quickly goes beyond science into metaphysics. Still, it's a good conversation for the hot tub or the campfire or the bar.
Jul 2 2012 1:23AM
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Benji.
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mm I'm writing a paper that deliberates a few different theories of the universe now.
Jul 2 2012 1:28AM
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DirtYStylE
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Wait for it.....































BANG! and life starts again
Jul 2 2012 1:36AM
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tronned
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it just seems that the more people live under the urban glow of city street lights and high rise buildings, the harder it becomes to see the stars that will spark the curiosity of the universe. easy to neglect something you cannot see.
Jul 2 2012 2:25PM
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Anathema
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bahhhaaa i love that movie. when he's talking about the animals (the fearsome beasts of the mountains and plains) i fucking died laughing.
Jul 2 2012 2:29PM
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the.cheat
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and then you guys had sex?
Jul 2 2012 2:40PM
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Spinoza
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Live your life and who gives a fuck about the universe ending. Get with it
Jul 2 2012 5:28PM
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Martgiblin
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Does anybody know how to get to the edge of the universe from the bottom of Alta?
Jul 2 2012 5:39PM
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WI_Personallty
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ha you said anti mater and not matter.
Jul 2 2012 6:18PM
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Anathema
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the universe is now aerials.
Jul 2 2012 6:25PM
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Spinoza
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He sounds like an "anti mater"
Jul 2 2012 6:29PM
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Zimmerman
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The big rip. our universe is now expanding at a rate too fast for it ever to "compact" again. And Sharkey I understand you. I've had such conversations with my cousin minus the crying and terror and they really do make you look at everything differently.
Jul 2 2012 6:32PM
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*Bird
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Jul 2 2012 6:37PM
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Drail
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zero spin = travel back in time?
Jul 2 2012 6:38PM
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*Bird
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can you imagine though when that day comes and the end of the world is imminent and you cant do anything to stop it
Jul 2 2012 6:40PM
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Heart
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i don't think it will ever end, we will just have the inevitable heat death of the universe after all work is done, and there are no living things existing in the universe.
Jul 2 2012 8:25PM
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lukewalnuts
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its really hard to just wrap my mind around any of this...


of course I'll never know what happens
Jul 2 2012 8:31PM
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JAHpow
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Jul 2 2012 8:38PM
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JzD.
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Sucks because we will never know
Jul 2 2012 8:50PM
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sitty9.
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unprotected
Jul 2 2012 11:08PM
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bleevus
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You're on!
Jul 3 2012 1:29AM
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FrysNation
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how can the universe go on forever?
Jul 3 2012 1:31AM
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Logey.
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I just want to know what's on the other side of a black hole.
Jul 3 2012 1:37AM
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