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Surface Swap

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StyleWithEase
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I've been trying blind surface swaps for a little while now, and my success rate is about 50/50. Can't seem to figure out what works and what doesn't.

Kieran McVeigh seems to have it down, what do you do?!

Thanks.

Also I have No rocker.
Jun 30 2012 3:05PM
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Algebra
Posts: 5215 - Karma: 1,677
Do a switch up but don't jump. Not that hard...
Jun 30 2012 3:16PM
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e.wait
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Edge harder and really throw it with conviction
Jun 30 2012 3:43PM
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.ZT.
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Depends on the rail if it's decently wide you should get it immediately, Do it fast and snappy that should work.
Jun 30 2012 3:46PM
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jeb_b_vt
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Kierans are sooooo sick and so clean
Jun 30 2012 4:03PM
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hot.pocket
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Surprisingly I've never done a blind swap while jumping, like I can only do them surface swap style. Jumping to switch up just seems weird to me.
Jun 30 2012 4:10PM
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TheButterHashira
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If you do it a bunch it's like the easiest thing to do on any round rail..
Jun 30 2012 4:15PM
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CrotchKiller
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Jun 30 2012 4:38PM
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Pretzel___Slaya
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^This

U just gotta hike a rail, everyone learns it their own way.
Jun 30 2012 4:55PM
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StyleWithEase
Posts: 68 - Karma: 51
Yeah, that's what I'm finding. Thanks for the advice.

Also finding that keeping your feet close together during the swap is helpful.
Jun 30 2012 5:21PM
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icyburr
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pop on ti the rail carrying a little bit of momentum, do the exact same thing you would for when you pop, just edge a little harder. Slide your feet together as close as you can and try to put most of your weight on your uphill ski. It is a lot easier if you do them quickly. Just keep attempting and you'll get them down. Good luck
Jun 30 2012 7:34PM
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icyburr
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pop on ti the rail carrying a little bit of momentum, do the exact same thing you would for when you pop, just edge a little harder. Slide your feet together as close as you can and try to put most of your weight on your uphill ski. It is a lot easier if you do them quickly. Just keep attempting and you'll get them down. Good luck
Jun 30 2012 7:34PM
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Tonetti.
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Surface swaps are my favorite! All about committing and keeping your skis tight.
Jun 30 2012 7:41PM
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Phansy
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wheres the pipe rail at 3:07? I live in pc too so be specific
Jun 30 2012 7:55PM
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DIX~
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Click for larger image
Jun 30 2012 9:01PM
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Tonetti.
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i am forgetting the name of the canyon but it is up by the water tank that 4bi9 hit in gunnie season. it is usually covered until super super late. with the bad snow year we were able to dig it out a little bit and hit it.
Jun 30 2012 9:32PM
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danbrown
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hi what are you doing tonight
Jun 30 2012 9:36PM
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Tonetti.
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partying with you!! :) text meh
Jun 30 2012 9:37PM
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Flowbear
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assuming your right foot forward and spinning left. once you start spinning put your skis close together and i usually look at the rail when im facing backwards then make sure you skis are flat or if your not on rockered skis lift your right ski up slightly and your left tail up slightly and once you get the swap around look towards the end of the rail and stomp it. thats what works best for me just takes a bit of practice but it feels sick once you can do it every time.
Jun 30 2012 10:28PM
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Parks.
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Really? Haha u don't say?
Jun 30 2012 10:31PM
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GypsyLovin
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As skinny of a stance as possible...
Jul 2 2012 3:19PM
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Toaster-Tony
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This was the first swap I learned. It's really easy if you just focus on giving a little more rotation when you are doing your 90 degree on at the start of the rail. From there, narrow up your stance, and let your momentum take you through the swap as well as prompting it with a little edge control.
Jul 2 2012 3:23PM
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edai
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Try this.

Usually when you approach a rail you're face it at like a 20 degree angle right? So instead of that 20 degrees, try adjusting it to about 30-50 degrees, this will put you into a grind stance automatically and your body will throw yourself right into it.

Then just follow the usual rules for surface swaps.
Jul 2 2012 3:39PM
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penguin_steeze
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Make sure to keep your ankles locked together when approaching the switch 50 50

vid of blind surface- blind 270 out

Jul 4 2012 10:59PM
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Tonetti.
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same concept but i find it easier to throw almost like a 270 on but instead just hit the rail at 90 and let that momentum carry you
Jul 6 2012 12:05AM
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J_Christoph
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keep skis tight and just lift your weight off a bit
Jul 6 2012 2:33AM
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RawrRawrRob
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True
Jul 6 2012 12:20PM
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crunkiest
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that was really sick
i want to go for one of these so bad on a rail. haha if its on a box for me it doesnt count
Jul 6 2012 3:22PM
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mtnskier
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this might help
http://vimeo.com/16916799
Jul 7 2012 10:57AM
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Emma_Watson
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Surface Switch-up SKILLS from AJ Kemppainen on Vimeo.

Jul 7 2012 1:19PM
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Flacker
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Just got with it it's all one fluid motion
Nov 27 2013 11:39PM
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NMMedia
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I was actually in the same boat, started learning them this year (hadnt really done any rail tricks before). My friend basically told me to start out on any poop tube, and as soon as you hop on the rail just set your front edge pretty hard and itll go.
Nov 28 2013 2:51PM
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Dibs
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these tips make me feel like i could suddenly do one. Probably not though.
Nov 28 2013 8:48PM
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NMMedia
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Haha dont say probably not. If you doubt yourself youll fall. You gotta go for it and picture yourself making it.
Nov 28 2013 11:41PM
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GnarNinja
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Just force your feet together and hold on for dear life.
Nov 29 2013 8:57AM
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Kreech
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That's a sick edit, I like your style
Nov 30 2013 1:47AM
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