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Global Warming (Climate Change or what ever the fuck you want to call it)

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Jahburn
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First off I am annoyed to fucking hell about how ignorant people are on this issue. It has been proven that CO2 acts like a blanket to help keep in warmth. What do cars emit? Billions of tons of CO2 each year. Way more than volcanoes or regular natural events that happen on earth. Graphs show a steady rise in temperature ever since the industrial revolution. Take a look and see who is a against global warming. They are all oil, car, or coal companies. It blows my mind at all the evidence we have that proves that the earths warming is caused by humans and still people Ignore it. Not to mention all of the things we use that produce CO2 help contaminate the environment. Why not take care of our one and only home earth?


http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html
Jun 26 2012 4:42PM
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Sneaky_Aziz
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Fucking hippie.
Jun 26 2012 4:44PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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yeah its pretty obnoxious. there are so many things that people and governments do that just dont make sense.
Jun 26 2012 4:46PM
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Sno.
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Hippie Fuck
Jun 26 2012 4:46PM
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hardig1234
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gnikcuf eippih
Jun 26 2012 4:51PM
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PopsicleStand
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O/U of jahburn getting banned is now 4 days
Jun 26 2012 4:53PM
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Miomo
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Global warming is obviously the work of god and a precursor to armagedon.
Jun 26 2012 4:53PM
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howlongcanausern
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it's funny how those who consume the most resources, complain about the level of such consumption
Jun 26 2012 4:54PM
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cwphoto
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yay i see a multi page shitstorm on the way
Jun 26 2012 4:57PM
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hardig1234
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this
Jun 26 2012 4:59PM
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BlakeG
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Because cash rules everything around me, why the fuck would ceo's give a fuck about the environment if it means them loosing money, the only we can stop this is not by bullshit kyoto protocol agreements of reducing it is stop using products that are bad for the environment and make very strict CO2 legislations....your gonna have to put the 'green' companies in power as supposed to the non one or force the non green companies to change by buying green products

*sparknotes* no one is gonna read my post any way LOL
Jun 26 2012 5:01PM
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ABinThe603
Posts: 529 - Karma: 126
Clearly your uneducated because climate change and global warming are too opposite things. Climate change is that the Earth heating up is just a natural cycle, global warming is that humans are doing it. Please get educated on a subject before you talk about it like your a scientist.
Jun 26 2012 5:02PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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this is completely false
Jun 26 2012 5:04PM
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sniper_6
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I'll lay 200 on the under
Jun 26 2012 5:06PM
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PopsicleStand
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haha thank you god I was hoping my post wasn't going to get lost in the shitstorm
Jun 26 2012 5:08PM
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ABinThe603
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No it's not, my global studies teacher spend 3 weeks bashing this into our brains
Jun 26 2012 5:16PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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your global studies teacher is wrong
Jun 26 2012 5:19PM
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ABinThe603
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Well he was an egoistic, douchebag. Clearly a democrat and a total asshole. So what is the "true" definition?
Jun 26 2012 5:20PM
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El_Barto.
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what the hell do you do about it? sit and bitch about shit you have no idea about. yea, shits getting warmer. i like cars and electricity more than i like snow. deal with it pussy
Jun 26 2012 5:23PM
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Jahburn
Posts: 257 - Karma: 32
He is wrong. Climate change is the idea that the the weather patterns are shifting and some people believe its because of humans creating green house gasses. Basically the same as global warming, but I think its a better term.
Jun 26 2012 5:25PM
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Jahburn
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I bike or walk most places, and carpool with people if I'm going skiing or on a long trip. Its not just that the earth is getting warmer but if we get to much CO2 in the atmosphere we may run into an unstoppable issue. We had 3 earth like planets in our solar system. Venus and Mars, the only one left is Earth. Venus collected to much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which killed the planet. There are clean ways to get energy like solar, wind, hydro, and possibly fission in 30-40 years. I care about skiing more than having electricity or cars but thats not the main issue. The main issue is the health of the planet and her living organisms.
Jun 26 2012 5:38PM
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howlongcanausern
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Jun 26 2012 5:41PM
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skijunkiedtm
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Seriously, we as a species need to get our shit together, and priorities in order; it's time to colonize another planet!
Jun 26 2012 5:44PM
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Funkadelic
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Your global studies teacher is wrong. Source- I'm a master's student researching the impact of global climate change on ecosystem dynamics.
Jun 26 2012 5:47PM
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Rossberger
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Oh, the irony.
Jun 26 2012 5:47PM
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cwphoto
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thats probably the most intelligent post in this thread
Jun 26 2012 5:49PM
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PacificRimJob
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Jun 26 2012 5:53PM
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eldridge
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all you pieces of shit go read Eaarth by Bill McKibben...itll have you thinking
Jun 26 2012 5:53PM
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eheath
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definitely neversee.
Jun 26 2012 5:56PM
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corona
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Even if climate change is real, God will make sure those who stay true to faith aren't punished by it. The car I drive is not fuel efficient, but my faith in God makes up for it.
Jun 26 2012 6:02PM
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ironic
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Starting out the thread with "what ever the fuck you want to call it" is probably not the best way to attract intelligent contributors.
Jun 26 2012 6:17PM
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eheath
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never seen this before (mobile blowing it)
Jun 26 2012 6:18PM
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El_Barto.
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right. and what lubricates your bike chain? what made the plastic keyboard your typing on? how much meat do you eat?


Jun 26 2012 6:21PM
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Jahburn
Posts: 257 - Karma: 32
everyone will have a CO2 foot print, or impact the environment in some sort of negative way. A bike is better for the environment than a car is. My family has a green house in the back yard. We get most of our needed produce from it. The most important thing I believe in is alternative clean power, and electric cars. Everyone or at least a majority of people need to be on board with the idea that the earth is warming because of us before big things will happen. Obviously we are dealing with bigger issues such as the economy but the next on my list is the environment. The US consumes 50% of all the resources in the world. We need to look at better more resourceful way of living which in the end will cost less.
Jun 26 2012 7:09PM
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Jahburn
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Great post. It completely blows me away what some people believe. Fox News trying to say there is global cooling and global warming is a myth because it snowed in October, haha stupidest thing that I have heard.

The ignorance of some people.



Jun 26 2012 7:19PM
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Bodhisattva_
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Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the fucking shit.
Jun 26 2012 7:29PM
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ikindalikeskiing
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first off i love how everyone immediately goes to transportation and how much C02 it's emitting, but a single volcano eruption emits as much C02 as all the cars in the world emit in a year. if you have been following changes that the U.S. is making you should know that we are implying a smart grid and improving solar/geothermal/hydro/wind powers to create electricity rather than fossil fuels. another process that is currently in production is controlling lightning, they have made a machine that clears the air to make a path that has little resistance and lightning takes the path of least resistance, right now this technology is being used in the military but it could be modified to provide infinite sources of electricity
Jun 26 2012 7:37PM
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TheDers
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Jun 26 2012 7:43PM
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james6345789
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Now OP, I want you to google "argument against global warming" and be less ignorant.
Jun 26 2012 7:47PM
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Jahburn
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Every gallon of gas burned constitutes to 20 pounds of co2. there are over 500 million cars in the world. Altogether including power plants, cars, ect, we produce around 26 billion tons of co2. Yearly volcanoes produce roughly 200 million tons of co2 there is a very large difference between the two.
Jun 26 2012 7:49PM
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Bodhisattva_
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That's because big ass volcanoes don't erupt yearly.
Jun 26 2012 7:50PM
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Black.Bird
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Here is how I see it.

Yes the earth is warming up, but humans have a very minimal effect on it. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that contributes very lightly to the whole phenomenon.. And humans only produce a very small percentage.

The earth has been cooling and heating up for millions of years, temperatures fluctuate all throughout the geological time periods.

We have this MASSIVE fire ball over our heads (sun) but environmentalists put all the emphasis on the minimal CO2 emissions that have little effect..
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Increased SUNSPOT activity increases the amount of energy released by the sun making it WARMER.
There are currently more sunspots observed than there was in the past, which explains the increased temperatures.

I don't really want to write a novel but that's just my two cents.
Jun 26 2012 7:55PM
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Funkadelic
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Please provide your definition of the term "minimal."
Jun 26 2012 8:07PM
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Jahburn
Posts: 257 - Karma: 32
Well we are going at it every year with 26 billion tons of Co2. Volcanoes account for 1% of Co2 emissions all together. We produce way more Co2 then it naturally occurs. During the 1980 Mt St Helens eruption, St Helens released 650 metric tons of Co2 daily. That is very little compared to what cars release each day. When the dinosaurs were around the earth heated like global warming do to the amount of large living creatures giving of Co2 and methane. Venus is a planet that shows what happens when Co2 emission get out of hand.
Jun 26 2012 8:09PM
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bakedpow
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What if i told you there is something called global cooling as well?
Jun 26 2012 8:11PM
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ikindalikeskiing
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Exactly
Jun 26 2012 8:12PM
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Dustin.
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Someone just discovered the internet. What are you doing about it other than being a pretentious douche?
Jun 26 2012 8:14PM
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.ZT.
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Uh oh shitstorm approaching. Threads for my opinion later.
Jun 26 2012 8:20PM
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Rossberger
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Supporting this with graphs:

a) Temperature vs. Solar Activity
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b) CO2 and Temperature over the 20th Century
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Do you [OP] notice the temperature increase between the 1940's and 1950's in both graphs? Good, now do you notice the decrease in CO2 during that same period in the 2nd graph? If you're catching on, you'll see that that solar activity increased dramatically during the same period. If you're saying greenhouse gas emission leads to increased temperatures, then why doesn't a decline in greenhouse gases lead to a decline in temperature, or at least some maintainability? And that 40's-50's period isn't the only period that supports what I'm saying.

As Black Bird said, I agree with you how CO2 and other greenhouse gases lead to a warming, but have you considered other natural factors and the fact that it has a very minimal effect?
Jun 26 2012 8:35PM
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little_boo
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Absolutely- the earth does go through natural cycles of heating and cooling all on its own. However, according to the climate history of this planet, we are supposed to be in a cooling period; and in fact what we're seeing is the total opposite. Now of course there are natural factors that contribute to the greenhouse effect- volcanoes (although it's complicated whether they heat or cool the planet in the end), Milankovitch cycles, chemical weathering, solar flares, whatever. But there is NO combination of natural causes that can account for the temperature rise that we have seen in the past century or so. Not even solar flares- sure, they could account for part of it, but not the whole picture.
And yea- CO2 is a pretty big fucking deal, and humans are a huge contributor.
People need to wake up.
Jun 26 2012 8:44PM
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gotti
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Did you know that if everybody in america painted the roof of their house white, it would reverse global warming by reflecting the suns rays back to space. This makes sense as it is the basic principle underlying global temperature fluctuations and why Ice ages always melt. Snow is also very good for global warming.

Honestly, I'm more worried about the ice caps melting and the fact that boston, my home city, is going to have a lot of floods during storms. Also when the ice caps melt the ocean currents stop. When this happens, the warm ocean current supplying great britain and norther europe with warm water will no longer be there. This means that this part of europe will also go into an ice age, which will then reverse itself.

In conclusion, I think the earth has a way of always returning to equilibrium however long it takes. Even if it has to kill off the human race with toxic gases and allow the CO2 to settle. Nonetheless, we've already fucked up our planet. And to this I say YOLO, I try to bike and stuff as much as I can, but I'm not going to waste my life advocating shitty programs because I know that unless the government puts in place strict guidelines, jack shit is going to happen with big companies current policies.
Jun 26 2012 8:46PM
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