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A community of copycats

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thebusiness19
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I just read the thread about Jon Brogans edit and hella people were saying ahh these were the days when skiing was unique and fresh now everyone is just copying each other. I wanted to ask who you guys thought the originals were with the style who everyone is copying off of?
My crude list would be
-Jon Brogan
-Tom Wallisch
-Andy Parry
-Jon Olsson
-Matt Walker
-Clayton Vila
-B&E
-Nick Martini
-Mickael Deschaneux
-Ahmet Dadali
-Mike Hornbeck

Jun 25 2012 3:46AM
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thebusiness19
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-Delorme (of course)
Jun 25 2012 3:49AM
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.R-Lohin
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rrrstdffress thats what happens when I hit my ass on the keyboard
Jun 25 2012 3:54AM
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O-A_s
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Mickael Deschenaux
Jun 25 2012 3:55AM
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=nick=
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candide, tanner, jp, julien, jf, descheneaux, vanular
Jun 25 2012 5:17AM
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TOAST.
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heed
Jun 25 2012 9:26AM
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Black.Bird
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^
Jun 25 2012 9:31AM
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SacZiplock
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quoting the edit... terrible style
Jun 25 2012 10:16AM
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Smuffy
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fuck you
Jun 25 2012 10:20AM
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eirikdl
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The best skiiers are not copying others style. most of them develope their own style, but might find some inspiration from other skiiers, snowboarders and skateboarders
Jun 25 2012 10:45AM
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AwR
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I'm sorry but your list is wrong in my opinion.

First off the word "copycat" is not the best word to describe what happens with style. I would much rather say "influenced" by. Most of your list were influenced by people or "originals" omit Olson and Deschaneux. Now I am not knocking any of those people's styles on the list. They are all amazing at what they do and are currently influencing kids now a days, but when most of those skiers on your list were kids they were influenced by other skiers.

These skiers were in movies like Session 1242, Happy Dayz, Ski Movie 1, 2, 3 and so many more. Then those skiers in those movies were influenced by other skiers. Point being everyone takes a bit of someones style and adds a little splice of their own.


Jun 25 2012 10:55AM
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.ZT.
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Yes, also I feel everyone's style is unique to their own, no matter what it's not the exact same, I also would encourage people to do their own thing influenced by some pros, but not copying, I don't want to call anyone out but there are a lot of people who I have seen trying to look like Henrik or Wallisch in parks I've been to. Not that I don't like their styles, but people should be themselves,
Jun 25 2012 11:08AM
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TimRiley
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Mickael Deschenaux - super original in his approach to skiing, started the whole thug life / skiing mix.

Adam Delorme - Unique and original style without being a hucker.

Jun 25 2012 11:13AM
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ScrappyJoeYoung
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Jun 25 2012 11:18AM
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TOAST.
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yea looking at it now, I can see where you are coming from, but it led the way for many others to follow that type of style.
Jun 25 2012 11:30AM
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SacZiplock
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yea right
Jun 25 2012 11:49AM
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scientist
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pwhites got some pretty original style
Jun 25 2012 12:21PM
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james6345789
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The ancient Borweu
Jun 25 2012 1:04PM
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danderson.
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No, you're years off.
Jun 25 2012 1:06PM
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james6345789
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Fuck mobile, the ancient Norweigens, all of you copy how the went down hills. Seriously, lighten up people.
Jun 25 2012 1:06PM
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lands11
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This is a much more accurate list
Jun 25 2012 1:22PM
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Holte
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watching that THeed edit now, it's insane that he was THE most stylish skier in the rail game for a few years.
Jun 25 2012 1:25PM
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Black.Bird
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What's also insane is that he completely disappeared.. Anyone know what he's been up too?
Jun 25 2012 1:36PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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max hill
Jun 25 2012 1:47PM
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snakerton
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omg i hate that edit so much. terrible video quality, terrible music, boring music and his outerwear was ugly as shit
Jun 25 2012 1:54PM
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JWoods
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For emphasis
Jun 25 2012 3:52PM
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Ribss.
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Didnt read thread but uhmmm.. TRAVIS HEED?
Jun 25 2012 3:58PM
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Dr.Gonzo
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Tanner, Mike Douglas of course. There are others, but its hard not to look like your "copying" someone, most of the time i feel like people don't even realize they're not being unique.
Jun 25 2012 4:17PM
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lukemeahan.
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Just. Go. Skiing. And. Have. Fun.
Jun 25 2012 4:25PM
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gregorio
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But skiing isn't about having fun, it's about being different
Jun 25 2012 4:34PM
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razors-chaz
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^can you explain what that post was meant to show? is that you? is it somebody else's attempt to copy a style? either way so many flailing arms and looking entirely uncomfortable doing everything not a style i will be copying anytime soon
Jun 25 2012 4:57PM
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razors-chaz
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wrote this post before i went to work and didnt send it till i got back this is in relation to the trio of edits
Jun 25 2012 5:01PM
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eheath
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Dave Crighton.
Jun 25 2012 5:07PM
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eheath
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and mickeal, ogs of the ride away aka after bang.
Jun 25 2012 5:10PM
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danbrown
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crichton, pep, pollard
Jun 25 2012 5:41PM
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tbayskier
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what happened to dave?  his style is amazing
Jun 25 2012 5:45PM
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danbrown
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crown's disease. had to stop skiing, or at least at the level he was. too unfortunate
Jun 25 2012 5:47PM
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thebusiness19
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if u wanted to mention the real ogs than ya that is a good list with exception that dorion and fujas should prolly b there. however i was making a list for more the tall tee modern generation. if u went to most 16 yr old park rats they wouldnt say they are most "influenced" by jf cusson, and i dont see kids in the park who are exact copies of jf cusson but i see harlauts and wallisches everywhere.  what i mean by copycats is that there are actual pros that do everything the same as other pros almost.  B&E pretty much translates to paul/ emile bergeron, sig tveit, niklas eriksson, morten grape, austin torvinen oscar harlaut, will berman, etc.   jon olsson translates to bobby brown geopper aleksander aurdal oscar scherlin joranstaad ole mustad pc.fosse etc.  andy parry translates to jack borland allen lam the real ski fi guys some of the nipwitz coal drexler etc.  Mike Hornbeck copies straight over almost to kim boberg and brady perron. Tom Wallisch goes over to martini mcchesney and pretty much everyone else

Jun 25 2012 5:50PM
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gnarles.
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McConkey
Jun 25 2012 5:54PM
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SKI.ING
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Style has a lot more to do with how you ski and move around on the mountain than with what you wear. That factors into it, but here I feel the actual mode of skiing is what's really being examined.
Jun 25 2012 6:00PM
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edai
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Who are you all to decide where someone got their style?

Because didn't all skiers get their style from another skier before them? Style may have evolved, but in the beginning their was one style and one alone. That style was the style of the first person to "ski." Now we never will know who invented the ski, the first ever physical ski was dated back to 3200 B.C.

That may all be a little corny, but how can you say one person copied another? Every single person on this planet is different, no two people have the same weight, shape, height, strength, etc. So each person obviously skis with different form, posture, speed and so on.

Sure you can argue that there's a "gangster style," and a "gypsy style," but that doesn't account for actual skiing technique, it is merely a label of their dress on the mountain.

Now most of you won't agree with me, but think about it logically. Jon Olson invented his own style? No, he merely evolved a style of someone before him, whether that earlier life was on twin tips or not, they were skis.

You all think somebody copied another someones style, but really, so did the person who you think "invented that style."
Jun 25 2012 6:16PM
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danbrown
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crohn's. not crown's.
Jun 25 2012 6:25PM
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Heart
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doesnt that just mean you have to make dietary changes? i dont much about it ,but the people i know with crohns disease seem to lead pretty normal lives
Jun 25 2012 6:48PM
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roddy116
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wait is this a style lust or somethig if so my list would be
-mike hornbeck
-b-dog
-e-dollo
-andy parry
-ahmet dadali
-candid thovex
-jossi wells
Jun 25 2012 7:14PM
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twsnow22
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this.
Jun 25 2012 7:47PM
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84891jnf92048
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You suck, this thread sucks, and you suck.

Of course people copy styles; people want to do what they think looks cool themselves. The people who do it right put their own spin on something that someone else did though, making not just a copy of someone else's style, but copying it and twisting it to make their own individual style. That twist might even just be a combination of two different copied styles.

Copying isn't a bad thing, unless you don't do anything on your own to do it any differently thn the person who did it before you.

That goes for everything: skiing, snowboarding, music, art, film, anything that requires any sort of creativity or style.
Jun 25 2012 8:40PM
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TimRiley
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^I've seen your edit, at least your good at talking shit.
Jun 25 2012 8:46PM
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LittleFoot
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bring back pk's dub wobble corks. None of this flippy shit
Jun 25 2012 8:50PM
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84891jnf92048
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and since you have no edits, I guess I have to assume that the best you can do it eat shit.
Jun 25 2012 8:57PM
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Ribss.
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I saw his edit too, it was awesome. All this talk in the thread about copycatting and such, I thing his style was pretty damn original. Like E-dollo mixed with Drexler. Hes a good skier, so quit the hate. Even though YMR is gay, so what?
Jun 25 2012 9:01PM
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TimRiley
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Shit, it's whats for dinner. Yummy

Jun 25 2012 9:02PM
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