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7D owners rejoice!

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MatRich
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I had talked to a canon rep a few months ago about the sound issues on the 7D and how people would soon be switching to big sensor video cameras if they didnt respond with sound controls. He was not allowed to specify any details but he hinted on it and told me soon I would be happy.

Well its been leaked now, canon is doing a major firmware update, including sound controls with 64 levels and in camera wind cut.

I could not be more stoked, this was the big issue with my camera and I was debating saving up for an fs100 but now I feel confident I will keep my 7D for a longer while.

To see the details and all of the other features including the ability to rate shots in camera to simplify post process, click the link!



http://nofilmschool.com/2012/06/new-canon-7d-firmware/
Jun 14 2012 1:16PM
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Downtofilm
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If its just audio levels, im not to worried.

Canon has made me more and more depressed every time they release something now a days.

The GH2 is blowing my mind, let alone the GH3 is coming out in a couple months. If canon is going to step up their game it better be soon.
Jun 14 2012 1:31PM
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Mar-O
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SO stoked on this!!!! Hopefully it will be released soon!!!!
Jun 14 2012 1:50PM
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zahava
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Realized that it was a video upgrade.

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Jun 14 2012 2:48PM
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eheath
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level adjustment and wind cut (bullshit) still doesn't change the fact that its still a low quality sound system. Doesn't really matter what mic you have, when you're converting it to 1/8" input, you're losing a lot of quality. If canon really wanted to help out the audio, they'd install xlr ports in their new dslrs, but they wont.
Jun 14 2012 2:54PM
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WillStart
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yeah i'm a little confused here.


wouldn't these level adjustments only be useful if you're using the internal mic or videomic? which aren't exactly professional quality audio anyway.

otherwise, if you're trying to get professional audio, you could use a professional XLR mic to a mixer, which has adjustable levels and is gonna be able to disable AGC anyway, right?


definitely a useful update for 7D owners who are just using the internal mic or videomic, but i don't really see much use for it beyond that.
Jun 14 2012 2:59PM
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WillStart
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let me just clarify.

I can adjust level in-camera on my T2i with ML. that said, i only actually use that when i'm just messing around and don't want a mic setup. if i were doing serious work and wanted good audio, i would break out my Rode mic and BeachTek, which kind of gets rid of the need for in-camera adjustable levels.

i definitely think being able to run XLR straight into the camera kinda stomps on being able to adjust levels of a DSLR internal mic or Videomic.

haha not trying to rain on your parade here mat, because if i owned a 7D i would be happy too, just something to consider
Jun 14 2012 3:03PM
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MatRich
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not all of my productions are using external audio with xlr but I do prefer doing it this way. however there are a lot of situations where I need sound straight from my camera and dont have time to re conect audio. most of the time actualy, other than when im working on films or anything of that nature.
Jun 14 2012 3:05PM
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WillStart
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sorry for triple post, but I should say that I don't see myself even using the Beachtek anymore now that I have the Tascam. I've basically given up on recording audio via DSLR altogether. as Heath said, the only way it could be real legit is running XLR straight in, but who knows when/if that will ever happen.
Jun 14 2012 3:06PM
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WillStart
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yeah i completely understand.


i'm just saying that i wouldn't consider 7D audio to be a replacement in any way for the audio that can be achieved easily with something like the fs100
Jun 14 2012 3:08PM
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Mar-O
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Probably a really stupid question but WillStart, what do you do for audio in ski edits and those kind of stuff? Do you actually use the Tascam for it or do you use audio from the camera?

Jun 14 2012 5:42PM
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TijmenDal
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Not really news is it?
http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/06/canon-eos-7d-firmware-version-2-coming-soon/

Definitely sick though.
Especially the improved RAW burst rate is sick. 15 to 26 images. Biiig difference.
Jun 14 2012 7:12PM
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WillStart
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In the past I've just used my internal mic on my T2i because that was all I had. I've used the Rode NTG-2+BeachTek mixer while skiing too, and I've also recorded audio with the Tascam to sync up later (I take laps with just the Tascam and record only sound).

But now that I have the FS100, I just run a mic into the camera via XLR.
Jun 15 2012 12:48PM
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Balto
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i mean, toss in a thug ass gangsta rap song over all the clips and you don't even need sound!
Jun 15 2012 1:16PM
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blatt
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Manual time-zone setting?


get fucking stoked
Jun 15 2012 2:26PM
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SSteezle
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i just bought a 7d because of this feature
Jun 15 2012 2:52PM
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Rob.
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The Auto ISO limit is something they should have included from the start. It's great that it will now have it. I've been caught a few times using Auto ISO and having the camera increase the ISO more than I would have liked.
Jun 17 2012 4:18PM
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family_vacation
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Same. I realized that my t2i was holding me back without this.
Jun 17 2012 4:24PM
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zahava
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Explain for the non-video guys? haha.
Jun 17 2012 5:41PM
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blatt
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Well basically most camera's do this automatically, and for video I found that it can actually degrade image quality and really add to the DSLR's already heavy aliasing. By setting the time zone manually, you're able to really reduce a lot of these symptoms.
Jun 17 2012 7:45PM
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zahava
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So by being able to set the time zone to EST you can improve your image quality? I think I'm not getting this at all.
Jun 17 2012 7:48PM
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family_vacation
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It makes a difference. The automatic settings crank up the visual gain which sorta makes things look grainy. Think of the effect like that of a higher ISO on your photo camera. Just like photography, more manual control results in better images.
Jun 17 2012 8:15PM
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erikK
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yup. don't want your camera automatically setting your time zone
Jun 17 2012 10:05PM
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zahava
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True.
Jun 17 2012 10:09PM
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edai
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I still do not understand.

What does a time zone have to do with image quality? Like if the camera knows it 12:00 PM where you bought it, but you're in another time zone, it will adjust the sensitivity to light?

What in the actual fuck.
Jun 17 2012 10:29PM
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Mkvackay
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holy fucking stupid
Jun 17 2012 10:39PM
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blatt
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hahahahahahaha



trolled sooooo fucking hard
Jun 18 2012 12:03AM
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blatt
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oh wait, I'm the one getting trolled.... I hope?
Jun 18 2012 12:04AM
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edai
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Uhm no, I'm pretty sure I'm the one who was trolled? I think I knew it was a troll...but...maybe I accidentally trolled you while you were trying to troll someone else?
Jun 18 2012 12:13AM
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family_vacation
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I love this thread so much right now.
Jun 18 2012 12:54AM
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1337
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OLOLOLOLOL I TORLLED U OLOLOLOLOL
Jun 18 2012 12:57AM
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SSteezle
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haha! so glad I checked back on this thread
Jun 19 2012 10:22AM
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TomasAa
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Not considering audio, but it has now been confirmed that the t4i outputs CLEAN HDMI. There is still some testing going on, but if the signal is usable this would be huge.

This could mean that we can expect it on the next cameras from Canon, including the 7D.....

Jun 19 2012 1:00PM
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