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A chapter in mankind's history to be made tonight/this morning

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ButteredToast.
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At 4:15 AM EST, if all goes as planned, the first private spaceflight to the international space station will be made by Space-X and its Falcon-9 rocket.

Unfortunately this is kind of being overshadowed by Facebooks IPO... priorities, right people...?

For those of you who don't understand the enormity of what this represents:
http://gizmodo.com/5911244/spacex-falcon-9-the-future-of-commercial-space-flight-blasts-off-tomorrow


It will be streamed live in HD here:
http://www.spacex.com/webcast/


Please tell me I'm not the only one thats staying up for this...

MANKIND FUCK YEAH
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May 19 2012 12:55AM
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deleted5
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The dude from insink?
May 19 2012 12:56AM
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KillaSteeze
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that photo is neat.
May 19 2012 12:57AM
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Skittle.
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they shoulda waited another 5 minutes to launch
May 19 2012 12:58AM
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ButteredToast.
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They had it at 4:15 so mission control can have a celebratory toke
May 19 2012 1:02AM
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ButteredToast.
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BAMP.

Streaming live right now, liftoff scheduled for 4:55
May 19 2012 4:32AM
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treemobbin
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it stopped with 10 secs left
May 19 2012 4:59AM
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Wall_Nut
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Fuck man, maybe we'll hold off on writing that chapter til tomorrow
May 19 2012 4:59AM
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ryano
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so does everything have to be like perfect for it to take off?

i'm just wondering how "slight" the pressure change in engine 5 was? serious question.
May 19 2012 5:51AM
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Puzzled
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Pretty much
May 19 2012 6:26AM
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proZach
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Tuesday at 344am
May 19 2012 9:26AM
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Lucas
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Deep
May 19 2012 9:29AM
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feihlination
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lol
May 19 2012 9:56AM
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roddy116
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fuck it get us back to the moon
May 19 2012 10:03AM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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oh man i forgot about this. it's very exciting. i'm definitely watching it if they do it on tuesday
May 19 2012 10:22AM
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Dr.Gonzo
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that rocket looks really sketch. and dont worry OP, i understand the magnitude of this, this is the first step into not only privatized but also commercial space exploration. We'll be taking march break trips to the moon in no time!
May 19 2012 10:31AM
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a_burger
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On board computer failed to start. Postponed to the 22nd.








Why the fuck did I wake up at 5 A.M. for this :(
May 19 2012 10:34AM
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Flying~Squirrel
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i love space
May 19 2012 10:52AM
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accualyisdolan
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May 19 2012 10:57AM
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Billups
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From what I've read, they have had several glitches that have had to do with the range for aborts being set pretty strict in order to avoid having the thing blow up. Also, their launch window is basically a second in order to get to the ISS, so if they have to abort, they can't launch that day. The ISS is moving at something like 7700 m/s and if you're a second late, you are already like 8 km off target already.
May 19 2012 11:09AM
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geteducated
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exactly this. i'm on another forum with a spacex dude on there and thats what he said. he even went as far as less than a second.
May 19 2012 11:27AM
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-Condor-
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pretty much this.....and for us americas thats 17230 mph or 4.786 miles per second. there is a an incredibly small window for this thing to launch through.

i actually forgot all about this so pretty happy i saw this to remind me
May 19 2012 11:27AM
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CliffyByro
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i couldn't read the text cos all i could pay attention to was the fact your icon dances perfectly in time to the music i'm listening to. i'll come back later and try again
May 19 2012 11:31AM
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ThundaKilla
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Fuck the moon, I wanna land on Mars - Tanner Hall
May 19 2012 11:34AM
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DERS.
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so what does this mean for nasa?
May 19 2012 12:33PM
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ButteredToast.
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A lot of people are saying that SpaceX will replace NASA but I highly doubt that.

I think what SpaceX will do is make space travel routine with stuff like this. They will go on routine grocery runs to the ISS, and maybe even repair missions. In the event that we have a moon base, they'll probably take on the task of resupplying the base. I'd venture to guess this is how they will make money.

As for NASA, it will probably coexist with SpaceX. NASA will still be doing most of the scientific research, and will still be undertaking the big risky ventures such as pushing the frontier. I don't think SpaceX will do that for two reasons, the first being it is a terrible business model. With such a high risk and so little monetary reward, how do you turn something like that into profit? When you're doing something that literally no human has ever done before, there's an enormous amount of risk involved and its extremely difficult to get companies to invest in that. Extremely difficult.

Reason two being that literally all it takes to end a private space company is for one manned misson to go kablooey too early in the life of the company. NASA is resilient when things like this happen because they're backed by government money and can fix the problem and can keep chuggin' forward. Elon Musk has a shitload of money - and I mean a shitload - but it is not infinite, and with a private space company, one thing goes wrong and a few people die and suddenly you have investors that are backing out and private space becomes the zeppelins of our time.



On another note, a lot of people are calling SpaceX a failure because they aborted which is not true at all. The instantaneous about function is absolutely a groundbreaking innovation in space travel. The onboard computer is able to check literally EVERY system that is on board that vehicle in the very last second before launch, and kill the launch if anything is even slightly wrong. The engines in the rocket are able to reach full thrust within one second, and the onboard computer checks all the systems before that happens. This is a much better success than having a launch that ends up exploding and destroying an unbelievably expensive rocket. Eventually SpaceX will sell this kind of technology to NASA, and events like the Challenger disaster will be nearly eliminated.
May 19 2012 1:53PM
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Billups
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Yeah sorry about the metric. Those were the numbers I remembered from what I had read and I didn't feel like going and converting. Either way, it shows you how precise they have to be.

I think this is a huge step forward though when they finally launch and get to the ISS.
May 19 2012 1:58PM
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Spinoza
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This is really neat. I kind of want to freeze myself for 100 years and live in 2112. I wonder how my iPhone 4 will compare
May 19 2012 2:39PM
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FerrisBueller
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hell yeah
May 19 2012 2:48PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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the government (nasa) goes out into a frontier first, shows that it is possible to make a profit in that frontier, and then the private corporations follow and really flush it out. for example, Christopher Columbus and other conquistadors were sponsored by the king and queen of spain and they only checked out a few remote areas. after they came back with slaves, cocoa, gold, etc. the west indies trading company was formed. the WITC was responisble for the majority of exploration, trade, and communication between europe and america for nearly 200 years.

so companies like spaceX, Planetary Resources, and Vigin Galactic are (hopefully) going to replace NASA and be able to do a hell of a lot more. Since NASA is a government project, it is entirely funded by taxes and produces no monetary profit. these private companies are capable of generating a profit and a product to sell, so a lot more people will invest, there will be more competition, and they will actually have something to produce, as opposed to NASA which has done very little besides say "there is a lot out there that we dont know about, but were too underfunded to go find out." in fact, the next space race will most likely not be between nations but between companies. moral of the story: buy stock in a space exploration company.
May 19 2012 3:30PM
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rareison
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moon base would be gnarly
May 19 2012 3:34PM
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Bateman
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http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10061768


Video of the countdown, then aborting the launch.,
May 19 2012 3:40PM
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Billups
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So they're trying again tonight/tomorrow morning. They replaced a faulty valve in the engine, so hopefully everything is fixed and they can lift this thing off.
May 21 2012 9:16PM
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Davy.Crockett
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because if everything isn't perfect, they could die. space shuttles have over 1 million moving parts, the challenger exploded because of a shrunken o ring
May 21 2012 9:18PM
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theabortionator
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May 21 2012 9:20PM
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Huck_Norris
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Can you imagine the future spins one could conjure on the moon? Bishop needs to get Branson and Tammy Whamnips on a conference call.
May 21 2012 10:18PM
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ButteredToast.
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bump

3:44 AM EST. should be streaming live again
May 22 2012 1:46AM
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1337
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might as well go grab another redbull and watch this shit!
May 22 2012 1:48AM
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1337
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and pardon my ignorance, but this is a manned space flight, correct?
May 22 2012 1:53AM
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chicken
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nope, just supplies
May 22 2012 2:02AM
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1337
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still a big step, not as big as I thought, but none the less big
May 22 2012 2:02AM
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Kreech
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*lol* Threads
May 22 2012 2:16AM
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fujarome
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i dont know why i thought I'd be able to fall asleep having gone to bed at 2:30am, knowing this was coming up.

So here i am, wide awake, watching nasaTV waiting for it.

I live for this kind of stuff
May 22 2012 3:23AM
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ButteredToast.
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Yeah hopefully they don't abort again.

Last time it was so anticlimactic... such a bummer after staying up so long haha
May 22 2012 3:27AM
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1337
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the guy with glasses is sooooooooooooooo nerdy
May 22 2012 3:28AM
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baethoven
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no doubt i'll be up to check that out.
May 22 2012 3:29AM
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ButteredToast.
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13 minutes bro
May 22 2012 3:32AM
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fujarome
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6 minutes!

Just thinking about how nerve racking it is to watch one of these launches...can't imagine what it must be like for the guys who've committed years of their lives to this rocket.


And on that note, good to see us launching rockets again. Shuttle got boring and was too small.
May 22 2012 3:39AM
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1337
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^This. Jeeze I have a pit in my stomach and I have nothing invested in this. Being an engineer in the project has got to be crazy.
May 22 2012 3:40AM
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fujarome
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it looks like it's coming to life with all the steam and everything come off it in every direction.

I like it.
May 22 2012 3:43AM
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1337
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1 minute!
May 22 2012 3:44AM
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