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World's Scariest Drug

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2_fadez
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It's a long video, but very fascinating.

May 11 2012 3:38PM
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.AR6rider.
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35 minutes? Lol nope.
May 11 2012 3:39PM
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2_fadez
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Never said you had to watch it.
It is here for people who are interested in the subject
May 11 2012 3:40PM
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Lansfield
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I will watch that for when i have more time, some one care to sparknote?
May 11 2012 3:41PM
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Bill.Nye
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Another thread about Marijuana?







































































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May 11 2012 3:53PM
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TOK
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There's no such thing as free will.
May 11 2012 3:54PM
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.AR6rider.
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rtfghvkluilycguftolvjhkb.mhk


I just whipped my dick out and dragged it across my keyboard. Tell me, what did fate have to do with that?
May 11 2012 3:57PM
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Davy.Crockett
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threads for sure
May 11 2012 3:59PM
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2_fadez
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grows on trees in colombia. But the trees are pretty much everywhere (all throughout bogota and shiz).
eat a fruit and you trip for about two weeks straight. same with the roots.
the seeds are turned into a powder in the same way cocaine is made, but a gram can kill 10-15 people

now the scary part:

it acts like a roofie. people will like blow dust of it or drop it in your drink and then you pretty much turn into a zombie. You listen to what everyone tells you to do (go to the atm, lets go to your apartment and give me all your furniture), but to everyone else you seem fine.
Its used to rob and rape people in general.

When you wake up, you remember nothing, just like a roofie. It is like blacking out for 12 hours, but just off of airborne dust.

Hookers, strippers, bartenders commonly use it, and is pretty much the ultimate advantage-taker.
May 11 2012 4:12PM
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TOK
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not the argument I was making.

A human is restrained to humanly things.If You truly had free will then you wouldn't have just drug your dick across the keyboard, you would have had your dick jump off your body and drag itself across the keyboard so that you wouldn't have have to physically exert yourself in standing up to position yourself in optimal dick dragging position. Then, still utilizing "free will" when your dick was reattached to your body, it was 4 inches longer, just because you "willed" it to be.

your argument is invalid. Get logic'd.
May 11 2012 4:13PM
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Bill.Nye
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Define this. Otherwise you are arguing about nothing.
May 11 2012 4:23PM
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Cufe.
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What the flying fuck are you on, free will means I can go punch you in the face or go save a baby, I get to choose what I do. My penis is a part of me and if I was so inclined I could rip it off but I dont really feel like that would be much fun. How about you try?

Also, my argument has about as much logic as yours.
Panda waffle airplane red truck says moo.
May 11 2012 4:30PM
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Bill.Nye
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QED
May 11 2012 4:31PM
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HorsecockTony
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Your stupid.
May 11 2012 4:35PM
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TOK
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Free by definition means without restraint.

Would you not agree that my inability to instantaneously teleport to Japan would classified as a restraint? We are restrained to the laws of physics. I cannot hover two inches above my chair simply because I WILL it, it's physically impossible.

Let me try and water this down for you as a lower intellectual. My thumb is free to do all thumb-like things, it can move this and that way, back and forth, all because I will it too. Its movements can be completely spontaneous. However, I cannot WILL my thumb to float off my hand, glide across the room, suspended in air by only MY WILL and toggle a light switch, only to be gracefully returned to my hand upon completing that task. I could however, sever my thumb from my hand via sharpened machete, pick up the amputated figure and throw it at the light switch, hoping that it make contact and toggle the lights. It's possible, just not enjoyable.

On a genetic level, a peach tree cannot grow apples just because it WILLS too. It's genetically impossible.

May 11 2012 4:39PM
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TOK
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You're*
May 11 2012 4:41PM
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Bill.Nye
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Sure, your definition of free will doesn't exist, but your definition also has nothing to do with the philosophical concept of free will as it has existed for thousands of years, which has always been the ability for rational agents (ie humans) to chose various actions from a set of alternatives. It does not mean (and has never meant) your ability to do anything without physical restraint. That's magic, not free will.
May 11 2012 4:47PM
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Toasty.
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Fasle.

WARNING - GRAPHIC

Krokodil


May 11 2012 4:48PM
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2_fadez
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Maybe you don't understand why it's is scary.
May 11 2012 4:50PM
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Toasty.
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nope. 35 mins... just saw the words scary and drug.
May 11 2012 4:52PM
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Bill.Nye
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I'd sneak it into Tom Wallisch's drink and tell him to do triples naked at the X games.
May 11 2012 4:53PM
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TOK
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"My" definition? I'm referencing the philosophical definition.

Hobbes and Tolstoy agree upon this definition of free

"free insofar as we may do as we wish without hindrance or constraint. If thus free the question about the will's freedom is meaningless, for freedom then refers to whether a person can do what he chooses, not to the choosing itself; it refers to the freedom of the action, not to the choice of act. A person's will could be enslaved by the passions, chained to Freudian complexes, bound to the body's needs, limited by heredity, and necessitated by environmental causes, and yet by this meaning of freedom, he could be totally free to do that which is determined. "

I agree. When provided an assortment of variables, a human as a rational being possesses the ability to make a decision, that logic agrees with the definition I provided. A human cannot, however, choose to never drink water again because it provides reoccurring inconvenience "...bound to the body's needs."

May 11 2012 4:59PM
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Bill.Nye
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Sure, they can, they'll just die.
May 11 2012 5:02PM
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Cufe.
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Let me get this straight then since I am a "Lower Intelectual" (Thanks by the way, I like your extended vocabulary for calling people stupid) You are saying that free will means we can break fundamental rules of nature with our minds? I am glad that this is logical in your mind, though my lowered mental capacities struggle to see the connection between choosing what I wish to eat for breakfast in the morning and the ability to fly with my mind is.
Could you please enlighten me as to the reason I cant will my self to be flying a UFO made of anti-matter powered by Jupiter's rotational energy while observing a galactic sized jello wrestling match between Olivia Wilde and Summer Glau? I mean, I know by your standards my free will is limiting me to this, but at the same time my free will is restraining me from jumping off a cliff to see if flight is possible through flapping my arms at an accelerated rate.
In layman's terms for you, as I doubt your credentials as an upper level intelectual (implied in the comment of us being lower level intellectuals) Your free will has allowed you to become a moron who uses the internet to flex his mild intellect. My free will has caused me to write this in an effort to raise you to the intelectual level of babbling child rather than your current status as a mentally handicapped infant.

PS: I can use big words to call people stupid too.
May 11 2012 5:04PM
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TheClap.
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give me 15 zannies and a 12 pack, same diff
May 11 2012 5:06PM
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Cufe.
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indeed, natural selection has eliminated those with TOK's definition of free will.
May 11 2012 5:06PM
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TOK
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lol. I give up on you.
May 11 2012 5:09PM
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TOK
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And what if they WILLED to live?
May 11 2012 5:10PM
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Cufe.
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the feeling is mutual.
I challenge you though to use your free will to hold your breath for 20 minutes.
May 11 2012 5:10PM
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Bill.Nye
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They are free to will it, but that doesn't mean the universe cares.
May 11 2012 5:13PM
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TOK
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what the fuck? you just argued my case.
If I truly had free will then I would WILL to hold my breath for 20 minutes, and would WILL to survive. I cannot, however, for I am RESTRAINED by my body's abilities and its need for oxygen.

May 11 2012 5:18PM
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Bill.Nye
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That was clearly a humorous way to suggest that you should kill yourself.
May 11 2012 5:19PM
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AWALLRUS.
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yeah I came in here thinking "ooooop krokodil thread!"

most definitely the most scary drug. I don't even have to watch the video to know that.
May 11 2012 5:19PM
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TOK
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Exactly. we agree. the universe doesn't give a shit that you want to never have to drink again and survive. You're going to die. The universe (bodily requirements) just fisted your will.

case and point.
May 11 2012 5:19PM
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Bill.Nye
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Except it didn't. Your will was unaffected, only your life was changed.
May 11 2012 5:20PM
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TOK
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hahahaha EXACTLY. Some logic right hurr.
May 11 2012 5:23PM
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Bill.Nye
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So.........you're wrong then.
May 11 2012 5:24PM
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TOK
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do explain.
May 11 2012 5:25PM
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AWALLRUS.
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holy tits mcallistair.

i still think krokodil is worse, but im not really sure what to think of this. sounds like something from a cartoon.
May 11 2012 5:25PM
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hot.pocket
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Best post in the thread.
May 11 2012 5:33PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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shut the fuck up with your philosophical free will arguments. no one cares.

as to the OP - this shit is definitely the world's scariest drug. i thought it was going to be about krokidil (sp?), but I was obviously wrong. i think krokidil (sp?) is scary in it's physical side effects, but the user is completely in control as to whether or not they destroy their body with it. someone could just blow a small amount of dust from the drug in the OP in your face and you're someone's puppet...not to mention that 1 gram of this stuff can kill 10-15 people...that's some powerful shit.
May 11 2012 5:47PM
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Bill.Nye
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May 11 2012 5:48PM
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CluckaChuck
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Watched the whole thing, very interesting. Thanks for sharing
May 11 2012 5:59PM
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De-Clan
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truth ^^ that shit is fucked up
May 11 2012 6:02PM
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PopsicleStand
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Threads for the drug part. The free will conversation is just absurd.
May 11 2012 6:03PM
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AWALLRUS.
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debatable
May 11 2012 6:04PM
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grams.
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8:56....17 DAYS?!?
May 11 2012 6:23PM
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PhaedeD
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same.... fuck that what a waste, the guy didnt even try it.
May 11 2012 6:36PM
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deleted5
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I want that could do work with rich people in ny
May 11 2012 6:37PM
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theabortionator
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too long dont care
May 11 2012 6:38PM
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