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JJ or SFB for Pwn everyday ski

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Dubins
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Hey I'm 6ft 200lbs and an intermediate skier, I've ridden the 185 jj and loved them, the only issue is I'm also gona get a pow ski (probly magic j) so I didn't know I those and jjs would be a bit of overlap. Also if anyone has ridden them both how do the SFB compare in pow? I know they have a slightly wider shovel and a thinner waist so I did t know how that translated on the snow.
Apr 25 2012 2:59PM
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YooperSteeze
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Bacons are amazing, on everything. I've ridden everything from 24" of fresh, bulletproof ice, spring slush, jumps and rails too. Bacons slay all, better than any other ski I've ridden.
Apr 25 2012 3:33PM
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Dubins
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PNW not pwn haha
Apr 25 2012 3:33PM
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malibufishnsurf
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JJ is more like the Bent Chetler, which my brother rides. He loves the BC in anything fresh and hates it on anything else.

He rode the Bacon on boilerplate, fast groomers and crud and he said they were great.
Apr 25 2012 7:09PM
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Dubins
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I do ok on the jj's on groomers, but where i love them is in trees.  Are the Bocons going to be about the same?
Apr 25 2012 8:04PM
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Dubins
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My local shop is also carrying ON3P next season if theres some skis that are comparable to the two ive listed?
Apr 25 2012 8:06PM
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division.bell
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For your size, this is a much better option.

For an everyday ski, the Jeffrey would be a solid choice, or you could step it up and go with the 191 Caylor. I've used the 191 Caylor as my everyday ski and it does wonderfully considering it's size. I know there are several others on here who also ski a 191 Caylor as their everyday ski in the PNW and for good reason. It is so much damn fun. The 120mm waist definitely made me skeptical about how it would perform in shitty conditions, but the Caylor is surprisingly versatile and can pretty much go anywhere.

It would definitely be a better choice than a 185 JJ or SFB for someone your size. I'm 6'2" and 190lbs give or take and 185 JJ's were way too soft and unpredictable for me. No personal experience on the SFB's because I will not support a company making skis in China.

Support a local company making amazing skis here in the PNW! You could always head down to Portland and demo some skis if you get the chance this summer.
Apr 25 2012 9:09PM
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YooperSteeze
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I'm 6' 180lbs and the 184 sfb's were perfect.
Apr 25 2012 9:44PM
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clive_bixby
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195 ak jj. they ski way more nimble then they actually are
Apr 25 2012 10:17PM
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clive_bixby
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and as far as overlap, it looks bad on paper but i'm rocking jj's and hopefully i can get the magic j next year. my rock skis are like 95 underfoot but when theres snow i would rock the jj everday
Apr 25 2012 10:20PM
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Blake.P
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this.

i have the caylors and love them for up in the pnw. however, if you are getting the magic j's, they might be a bit of an overlap. i would look into the on3p jeffery for something different and a bit more versitile, or if you dont mind having two pow skis, the caylor is an awesome choice that is surprisingly versitile
Apr 26 2012 12:05AM
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Dubins
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Thanks for your help guys! A local shop has a pair of 191 Caylors to demo, i'll give them a try in the slush this weekend!
Apr 26 2012 12:35AM
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bnewbs6
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The Magic J wasnt designed to float on the snow. I know it sounds weird! But when t hall designed it he was thinking there are so many skis that float perfectly on top of the snow. But he wants to get back into it. So it sinks a little more for those epic pow turns. I'm a little skeptical though.
Apr 26 2012 1:12AM
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jfrauen
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If you know you are going to get a pow ski (magic j) why not just go with an all mountain ski like the ARV. They are pretty sick on groomers, you can ski them legit in the park, and if you get a little snow and its not enough for the magic js they will be solid
Apr 26 2012 1:56AM
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SKI.ING
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This. I have my ARV's as an everyday ski and they are perfect. Then get a pow ski whichever you choose and you really have the bases covered:park, pow, all-mountain. Oh and my pow skis are JJs but I'd rather sell them for some Caylors.
Apr 26 2012 2:19AM
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max61195
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JJ
Apr 26 2012 2:32AM
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Mr_pretzel
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JJs are toys.

And magic js will be too.
Apr 26 2012 10:18AM
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SKI.ING
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What is your pow ski?
Apr 26 2012 12:36PM
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DUKES
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most likely an ON3P
Apr 26 2012 12:40PM
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Dubins
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I demo'd the armada bubbas and loved them... The people who tried the magic J's said they where better so I was thinking those
Apr 26 2012 12:53PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Billy goats, wrens.

Apr 26 2012 3:31PM
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bclover
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Go SFBs, they're more built as an all mountain ski than JJs, those are mainly just for deep ol' pow
Apr 27 2012 12:31PM
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