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ShoGuns vs. Watea

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dmski
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For the end of the season sales, i'm lookin into some new skis. What do you guys think of the ShoGun's or Watea 98/114? I've been looking into a slightly rockered twintip ski with traditional camber but around 100-110 under foot. Whole goal is to be able to farm kung pow, stomp cliffs and backcountry kickers, ski switch and lay down trenches on the groomers. Asking a lot from a ski, but are there any other ski's like this? I've seen the Opus and gotama which are both sick skis but sound a little too buttery, could be wrong though. Cochise? Help me out NS!
Apr 17 2012 7:47AM
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Banane.
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Sir francis bacon?
Apr 17 2012 8:51AM
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LC.
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Shoguns are a pretty boring ski, not very lively or jibby at all. Wateas are really underrated skis (I tour on the 101) but not jib skis at all.

A Kung Fujas model might work, or Atomic Blog (if you're light).
Apr 17 2012 10:45AM
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Balto
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on3p j-mo/jeffery, better built then anything other option
Apr 17 2012 1:09PM
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ikindalikeskiing
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Jeffery or caylor
Apr 17 2012 1:45PM
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Nicko1981
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Give the LIberty Helix a go - very lively, rockered tip, standard camber, 105 underfoot - carves reallly well.
Apr 17 2012 6:43PM
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dmski
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Thanks guys for all the recommendations. for the on3p and liberty helix, are they chattery at high speeds in crud and harder snow? Do the liberties have camber underfoot or are they more zero camber?
Apr 18 2012 6:02AM
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Nicko1981
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They have camber underfoot and standard tail camber too - just rocker in the tip. At high speed they are not too chattery - surprisingly good for a powder ski.

Apr 18 2012 7:04AM
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rozboon
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Gotama, buttery? Have you flexed a pair? They're pretty damn stiff.

I'd definitely go Shoguns over Wateas.

Apr 18 2012 8:13AM
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dmski
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Anyone tried the DPS 105?
Apr 18 2012 10:58AM
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skifiend
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i have a pair of atomic blogs.  while the name is stupid, the skis rock.  110mm underfoot, slight rocker in the tip and tail, camber underfoot.  pretty light for it's size ( i rode the 185s).  had a ton of fun on those skis this year!
Apr 18 2012 11:52AM
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ikindalikeskiing
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Caylor's will get you through anything like they were made for it. Buy them /thread
Apr 18 2012 1:41PM
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jahplaze
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if your gonna be doing the back country thing get the salomon czars same thing as shouguns but a little wider
Apr 18 2012 3:17PM
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