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Watching gangland now...how much you think the average gang member makes?

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KravtZ
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They always talk about how much money the gangs make, but never how much each person makes. Obviously the top gang members make much more than low ranking members, but how much you think the average gang member is making a year? Iv been watching the show all day and id say an average gang member in a pretty big gang gotta be pullin in atleast 100 grand a year...ns what you think the gangbangers are makin
Apr 13 2012 6:07PM
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Lucas
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Probs like 100-150g's
Apr 13 2012 6:13PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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well judging by the size of my tall tee's and the sag of pants, probably over 9000
Apr 13 2012 6:15PM
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e.wait
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It is probably extremely inconsistent. I'd argue that they probably don't make enough to justify the risk involved.
Apr 13 2012 6:16PM
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Skittle.
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seriously? like fuckin 30,000 theyre all poor as shit
Apr 13 2012 6:17PM
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ThundaKilla
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enough to pimp out their lowrider
Apr 13 2012 6:17PM
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japanada
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No way your average banger makes that much man. The majority of members are slanging on the corner and making drug runs and bitch work. If they were pulling that much, they wouldnt be living in high rise project buildings.
Apr 13 2012 6:25PM
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Backyard.Skier
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hahahah fleet
Apr 13 2012 6:34PM
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DANETRON
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I saw on one of those shows, forgot which one exactly, the guy was selling crack out of one of the burned out houses in Detroit but lived in some suburb somewhere. They said that he was making somewhere close to 17k a month. Im sure that's bullshit but the guy was living exceptionally well regardless.
Apr 13 2012 6:35PM
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PJS.
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you're on crack. read freakonomics. it comes down about $3.30 an hour for a foot soldier in a fairly large "franchise" of a larger nationwide gang. add that to the (if my memory is correct) 1 in 4 chance of being killed during your time as a gangbanger.
Apr 13 2012 6:36PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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boom. took the words right out of my mouth.

the only problem i see with this is that they studied crack dealers if i remember correctly. everybody knows the real money is in dope...waaay more profitable than crack especially when you consider the nature of the addictions. regardless, low level street hustlers still don't really make shit. they might be (please don't ban me for this) nigga rich, i.e. have 1,000 in there pocket, but no real tangible assets, bank accounts, etc., but for the most part they aren't ballin' outta control.
Apr 13 2012 6:47PM
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Big.L
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Those guys just do it for a couple free rocks here and there, I know a kid who hustles pretty hard and he pockets a grand every few days when he's on his game but he's dumb as fuck and gets robbed mostly blows more than he sells so he doesn't really make too much, hustlings overrated if you ask me
Apr 13 2012 6:54PM
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tbayskier
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less than minimum wage for footsoldiers, they are poor and the work is super dangerous.  Even bosses don't get that much until they are pretty high up
Apr 13 2012 6:57PM
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270on420out
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Tony Montana was a millionaire
Apr 13 2012 6:58PM
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turducken
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Did he say he was watching Scarface?
Apr 13 2012 7:02PM
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TechnoPotamus
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hahahahahahaha

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Apr 13 2012 7:06PM
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270on420out
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No but he was a gangster right?
Apr 13 2012 7:07PM
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Aidan-G
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hahahahahahahahahaha greatest thing I've heard today
Apr 13 2012 7:09PM
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KravtZ
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actually a book iv been meaning to read for quite some time havent gotten aroudn to reading it though. They have to make more than 3.30 an hour. Think about it. If they were making 330 an hour they could just get a job and make twice as much. I think an average joe's gotta be doing like 30-100 thousand a year depending on how good they are at selling drugs
Apr 13 2012 7:52PM
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tbayskier
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you don't understand, gang bangers don't just "get jobs".  who would hire a sketchy kid, let alone a gangbanger? 
Apr 13 2012 8:07PM
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PJS.
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absolutely not. what the book mentions that i forgot to, is that many gang members hold legit jobs to help their illegal income. and the reason they choose to do it? as the book says, the same reason a farmgirl moves to hollywood or a hs qb wakes up at 2 am to lift weights. they are all trying to succeed in a highly competitive field, which at the top houses people who do indeed make a lot of money. the average gang member sees an officer or even a leader who makes bank, and thinks that that occupation is his best chance for success, given his pretty shitty situation.
Apr 13 2012 8:12PM
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AWALLRUS.
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nobody else thought this was funny?

+k
Apr 13 2012 8:28PM
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Gnarwall
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Read freakonomics. Low level gang members don't make shit. All of the money goes to the top and none of it filters down.
Apr 13 2012 8:29PM
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Benhamine
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You obviously dont know the value of the dollar. 30 grand a year does not qualify as poor.
Apr 13 2012 8:36PM
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saskskier
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This.

If you're going for averages you have to consider most gang members are pretty much disposable and will do whatever it takes to get the recognition and acceptance they can't find in their damaged and broken homes. For most gang members, that's the draw, not the money.
Apr 13 2012 8:37PM
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skithesprings
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a pound of dank is 2000
there's 16 ounces in a pound
ounces sell for 400
16x400 = 6400
6400-2000 = 4400 profit.

...and that's pretty light weight work. ounces sell like hotcakes around here (from what I hear) and someone I knew made 60k in one semester then just quit and sat on his stack.


Apr 13 2012 8:38PM
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PJS.
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assuming they were selling independently. which they're not. thats like saying a mcdonalds burger flipper could make 50 gs a year just by selling burgers on the street.
Apr 13 2012 9:14PM
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Gnarwall
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The common seller in a gang isn't the only individual being supported by the profits. I can guarantee that 95% of that money goes up to the top, because the top knows that there is $4400 of profit available. A seller in a gang is only selling because it is his best option. Making less than minimum wage and having protection is better than the alternative of making nothing and getting shot. Selling weed is not profitable if you are the bottom man. You are just there to keep the boss out of trouble.
Apr 13 2012 11:07PM
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AWALLRUS.
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WRONG.

this is not gang related at all, but kids at my school sell chops and make a shit ton of money. not enough to live off of, but probably a grand or 2 a week.
Apr 13 2012 11:09PM
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lorax
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like 8 marijuanas?
Apr 13 2012 11:31PM
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JIBpsy^^
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How the fuck is a grand or 2 a week not enough to live off? You do realize thats 52-104K a year right? For a single person that is a scrotum shrinking ammount of money.
Apr 13 2012 11:39PM
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TheClap.
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also tax free
Apr 13 2012 11:40PM
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AWALLRUS.
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no i didnt realize that im not good at that kind of stuff.


Apr 13 2012 11:47PM
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JIBpsy^^
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we all make mistakes, also what are chops? and how does one go about selling them?
Apr 13 2012 11:48PM
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Billek
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Pork chops.  They're working for a local butcher.

On the real though, the guys on the street are making enough to get by, and get high on. 

All of this shit depends on the operation.  The bigger it is, the more people there are that will get paid as you go up the chain of command. 

I'll break risk down.  There's the probable risk of a 'small' consequence (when it comes to law) if you're a foot soldier.  However, these guys have to deal with many people and many hidden weapons, which makes it the worst position to be in. 

As you go up the ranks, the probability of a negative consequence goes down, but that consequence becomes much more serious, as far as the law is concerned. 

At the upper levels, the consequences are high.  Think of it as a high roller at a casino: more assets to push around, more profit available, but if you lose, you'll lose a lot.  Obviously the 'gangsters' know this, so they up their chances by playing smartly, and surrounding themselves with guns and people who love to use them.
Apr 14 2012 12:06AM
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Flying~Squirrel
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i like watching the one about hartford and recognizing the streets where the big fights took place.
Apr 14 2012 12:14AM
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Gnarwall
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You're an idiot. The difference between kids selling at your school, and kids selling from within a gang are completely different. Kids at school buy their shit and flip it for a higher price. Gang members receive much lower income for what they sell because their bosses take high overheads. A seller in a gang is going to pay a 95% sales tax to his boss. If that seller doesn't like it, he can fuck off and get shot by another gang. If you still think I'm wrong, read freakonomics.
Apr 14 2012 3:52AM
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rareison
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Well, I make around $50000 a year, I'm thug as fuck and you don't really wanna start any trouble with me.
Apr 14 2012 4:00AM
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californiagrown
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they make 100k a year and cant live off that?

youre stupid, they make a hundo or two a week, the rest is cashflow that is invested back in profit. weed wont make you much money until your selling to the people who sell to dealers.


drug dealing isnt worth it. on the other hand, selling hard drugs to drug dealers can make you a lot of money.


and i meant to quote the kid you quoted...
Apr 14 2012 4:08AM
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Flying~Squirrel
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i could live for a long time on 2 grand
Apr 14 2012 4:22AM
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californiagrown
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2grand a week makes you nearly a one-percenter. kids who grow up in wealthy suburbs have god awful monetary sense.
Apr 14 2012 4:27AM
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AWALLRUS.
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whoa man you read a book. you must know everything about gangs ever!

retard, everyone knows that people who are in gangs can't read or write. that's why they don't have real jobs.

you book is fiction.
Apr 14 2012 12:25PM
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jimmer
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that's hella early
Apr 14 2012 12:36PM
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SSteezle
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you can't be serious
Apr 14 2012 12:39PM
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skijunkiedtm
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gang members pay gang dues for protection etc. funding the higher ups lifestyles, kids flipping O's in highschool generally do not.
Apr 14 2012 12:46PM
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Gnarwall
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Your argument doesn't even make sense. Graduate from high school, take a business course, and perhaps I'll take you seriously. Freakonomics is a nonfiction book written by an economics professor at Chicago U. What are your credentials exactly?

Stats from a gang in Chicago.
The boss makes $66 hourly, or ~$100,000 a year.
His three officers make $700 a month, or ~$8400 a year.
Foot soldiers make $3.30 an hour. $530 a month full time, ~$6300 a year.
(Freakonomics p100)

$6360 =/= $100,000.

Why would a foot soldier would want to work for $3.30? Simple reason- The opportunity to move up in the organization and make more money. Moving up is unlikely to happen due to the large numbers of other workers. Your chances of getting a promotion are slim when there are 100 other individuals exactly like you. Gangs function almost exactly like corporations, except that they are dealing in slightly more illegal terms.

^Guy above me has it on lock though. Congrats for actually being intelligent.
Apr 15 2012 4:38AM
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Yeezy
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