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a friend needed black pants for work, and he ripped up the bottoms walking all day as you can see. Also the zipper in the crotch seem came apart and my friend sewed it back with maroon thread-its not a butcher job-..other than those two things these pants are clean and not cut up or torn-
waist is a 34 from LD website..closer to 32 though imo..inseam is 32 inch..the length on the outside to bottom is 42 inches from the bottom of the buttons on zipper.. Im 5'8 and theyre not HUGE. thanks for looking, take care