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Salomon Rocker 2 vs. K2 Hellbent

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shiftyparty
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Gonna get either of these pow skis but not sure which one. i know that the k2 hell bent is alot softer but not sure of exactly what the advantages are of a soft vs. stiffer ski in pow. I am a pretty competant skier.

Apr 1 2012 8:13PM
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tomPietrowski
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There very different skis. What size were you planning on getting the rocker 2. If it was the 170 or 180 then those skis are 115mm underfoot. The hell bent is 132mm underfoot so much much bigger. So if you want a soft, pure powder ski, then you may prefer the Hellbent. If you want a ski you can also carve hard on groomers the Rocker 2 may be better. It stiffer underfoot and has camber. Its much more all round ski in my opinion, but if you just want a ski for the really deep days get the hell bent and have fun.
Apr 1 2012 8:29PM
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FUUUCK
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where are you riding? What other skis do you have?
Apr 1 2012 8:49PM
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Kolaczki
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hellbent's are fun everywhere, but are preferable in pow, the rocker 2's are more of an all mountain skis,my friend likes his hellbent's though and he even takes them to the park where they are super playful for butters and super high ollies. Hope this helps you pick :D
Apr 1 2012 9:37PM
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shiftyparty
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Thnks Guys K+

Also it is purely for pow

Apr 2 2012 3:13AM
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VD.
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Take a look at my review of next year's r2s it's also linked in my sig.

Personally I found them a little to soft for me at 170lbs

Apr 2 2012 8:00AM
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FUUUCK
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Hellbents are better when it's stupid deep. But if you're in the ski area and going over other peoples tracks the rocker2s are just so much more versatile.
Apr 4 2012 1:09PM
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Session
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The reality is that the Hellbent is a completely out dated design. There are so many more pow ski's out there that aren't as bloated, and floppy, and perform way better.
Apr 4 2012 1:17PM
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.nasty
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as is most of k2. I feel like k2 strives to make a durable ski, which they have for years, but nowadays so many companies are making a durable product but also purely innovative shapes/designs that k2 has just fallen behind. The only people I talk to who seem to even like their skis anymore are the athletes. I mean shit, it really took them until this coming season to add taper into a ski...
Apr 4 2012 1:23PM
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rozboon
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I dunno... they were among the first to bring rocker to plain old carving/all mountain skis, the Hellbent has had early tip/tail taper since it went to the 132mm waist... they're tweaking their designs pretty regularly.

I just wish they hadn't canned the old Obsethed shape, that was a killer 1-ski quiver.

Apr 4 2012 6:47PM
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.nasty
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I don't consider the "taper" on the hellbent to even be useful. it's so minimal you wouldn't even know it's there unless someone told you.
Apr 4 2012 6:58PM
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schmies
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My HellBent tips don't really ever go under the snow:)

As for being 'outdated', try telling that to Pep, Andy, Seth, Ager and Collins. They like it just fine when we ask them what they want tweaked or changed on it every year.

Is the HellBent an everyday ski? For many people, hell no. But some people love it in conditions other than pure deep pow. People are now making skis that have more versatile usage but that really isn't what we made the HellBent for.

The fact it works in other conditions is all a happy accident and the team is smiling.


Apr 4 2012 7:27PM
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Casey
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Really? I must be missing out big time then I'm having a blast on mine.
Apr 4 2012 11:03PM
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KillaSteeze
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deep pow = Hellbents
charging lines/more versatile ski = rocker 2

my hellbents are soo much fun tho, they are soo buttery and u can lean forward in deeeeep pow and the tips are still above the surface
Apr 4 2012 11:08PM
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ikindalikeskiing
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Pow over 3 feet = hell bents Anything else = rocker 2
May 9 2012 1:36AM
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ripcity
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is this for real? fallen behind?

r2's and the bents really aren't all that different. construction and flex are about the only differences, similar size and purpose.

But your claims of k2 being behind the curve is all wrong, I don't think they would have by far the best team shredding their sticks if they sucked.

next year's pettitors (sp?) are hawter than your sister
May 10 2012 4:49PM
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ikindalikeskiing
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Get jj's
May 11 2012 1:37PM
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nagelthebagel
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love my hellbents, even on non pow days they do really well on groomers, it takes bait getting used to it, cause it can be scary as hell bombing groomers with these but they are tons of fun!!!!
May 11 2012 4:03PM
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Rhys.Peice
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no.
May 11 2012 11:10PM
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GPO
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bump same dilemma
Sep 18 2012 7:28PM
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Chaunceyskis
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K2 outdated? I say no. Heavily. Im really stoked on the petitor and I've loved my hellbents every single year. They are a powerful machine when out into the right hands. Once again I say this in every hellbent thread. If you are a lazy skier who sits back and goes along for the ride the hellbents wlill take charge and give you a run for your money. But if you get over your skis and be the boss then the hellbents can turn into a very charge worthy and powerful piece of equipment. In essence don't be a bitch if you ski hellbents
Sep 20 2012 10:46AM
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