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Last year dea seized a kilo of pure fentanyl from mexico.. street value 500m

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accualyisdolan
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isnt that insane? 500 million you could fit in a purse? think about it. a truckloadfull would have a street value of more than the worlds gdp. and once you got the lab equipment, maybe 10k worth, the supplies/ingredients cost on the order 100 bucks to make a kilo of fentanyl. 100 bucks to 500 million.
thats a 500,000,000 percent profit for a couple hours of lab manufacturing. think about it... imagine a drug submersible full of that shite... the war on drugs is so over, cause this trend is only gonna spread. 41 kilos of it were seized in ukraine a couple years ago. thats 20 trillion dollars street value............ talk about growing money... shit..  its killing lots of retards who dont give a tiny test push to see how strong what theyre taking is, which is a must if you have a brain. like dissolving a grain of this the size of a grain of sand in a gallon of water would give you the right concentration.

sparknotes. the war on drugs is so over
Mar 29 2012 2:06PM
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theabortionator
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what the fuck am I reading jpeg
Mar 29 2012 2:10PM
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yuck
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source? lol thats enough to get the US outta debt
Mar 29 2012 2:13PM
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Davy.Crockett
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articles?? sounds intense though, just looked it up on wikipedia
Mar 29 2012 2:16PM
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Randy_Quench
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holy guacamole sundayz.
Mar 29 2012 2:17PM
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TheClap.
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lost it
Mar 29 2012 2:18PM
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Billek
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Fentanyl is no fucking joke.  Correct me if I'm wrong, it's 100 times stronger than morphine, and heroin is 60 times stronger than morphine.

I nearly ruined my life by using opiates, so unfortunately, I have some experience with this substance.  What looked like 3-4 snowflakes on a plate nearly killed me the first time I sniffed that shit.
Mar 29 2012 2:19PM
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Randy_Quench
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl
Mar 29 2012 2:20PM
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TheClap.
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REAL TALK
Mar 29 2012 2:20PM
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panojibber
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you are not getting this right.

$500 million street value is only the selling price; thats like assuming you can make $280 selling an ounce of weed in grams; but you pay for the ounce, so you might make $80 to $140. But I guarantee you that fentanyl cost no less than $250 million from the chemist. Besides, chopping $500 million of drugs has its own costs and risks associated; in this case the DEA seized it and now someone is several hundred million dollars in the hole.
Mar 29 2012 2:20PM
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theabortionator
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You know whats easy to make

Even easier to sell

And fun as hell to do with friends?




METH
Mar 29 2012 2:22PM
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panojibber
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But then your old high school teacher recruits you and makes you cook meth and kill people.
Mar 29 2012 2:24PM
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Randy_Quench
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My friend Meth Justin said the same thing before he went to rehab.
hes dead now.
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Mar 29 2012 2:26PM
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iSmokeweed
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you make many threads OP. lets take a short break.
Mar 29 2012 2:34PM
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katie.
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Mar 29 2012 2:36PM
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panojibber
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Mar 29 2012 2:36PM
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Mr_Bump
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maybe he's taken something
Mar 29 2012 2:41PM
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accualyisdolan
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bluelight forum. but im more impressed its coming out of mexico now and some joker got caught making it in the states i read somewhere. profit to cost ratio compared to meth is like what 10,000 to 1? rediculous.
sad tho cause lots of people are dying, syringe still in their arm cause its 100x stronger than morphine. gov ought to take over and just sell it diluted over the counter otherwise so many more people are gonna od.

Mar 29 2012 2:42PM
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MNS
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i thought this thread was somewhat interesting
Mar 29 2012 2:47PM
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mcnamarskiez
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the dopest of the dope: ohmefentanyl..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohmefentanyl reportedly 30,000X the potency of morphine.....
Mar 29 2012 2:49PM
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accualyisdolan
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yeah kids who the us government refuses to educate about drugs are swallowing 100 microgram patches and dying. thats 1/10,000 of a gram.... in other words, 1 gram will kill 10,000 opiate naive kids. by naive i mean they have no tolerance. education is key in my opinion, but as i said the gov refuses to talk about drugs to kids. all their adds are about fucking pot... you would think the government wants these kids to die. its so stupid.
Mar 29 2012 2:53PM
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GayWolf420
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The war on drugs is far from over.
Mar 29 2012 2:54PM
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B.Aussie
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Fentanyl one hell of a drug.
Mar 29 2012 2:57PM
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blackmamba.
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it;s not over 'til it's over...if you know what i mean
Mar 29 2012 3:01PM
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doitbig
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when you're talking trillions of dollars in potential profit, i'd be suprised if the goverment wasn't involved in one way or another.
Mar 29 2012 3:01PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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they use fentanyl to make heroin stronger. unfortunately, a lot of times it becomes too strong and people shoot their normal dose and end up falling out. 9 times out of 10 when you read about a wave of heroin deaths in the news, it's from fentdope.

i'm surprised they found this in mexico though. the russians have been bringing in fentanyl through the great lakes region to cut east coast powder for a long time, but generally mexican tar has been free from this trend. looks like the cartels are stepping up their game.
Mar 29 2012 3:02PM
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accualyisdolan
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the cartels operate as a unit, so its a marginal loss to them as a whole. the cartels are MAKING the shit themselves. plus every kilo that gets seized like 5 to 10 make it thru. the war on drugs is like a ban on sex. you think you could ban sex? its just retarded. the people cutting the shit with lactose or whatever are croaking themselves, from inhaling a little powder thats in the air. this is like meth times a million. and theres no way of stopping it, cause money and profits always win.
the only option in my opinion is to educate and legalize
Mar 29 2012 3:05PM
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accualyisdolan
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yeah but then ur teeth fall out. and its marginally harder to make meth. its actually scary how easy it is to synthesise pure hospital grade fentanyl. profit wize, fentanyl is to meth as meth is to shitty weed
Mar 29 2012 3:09PM
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accualyisdolan
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k finne ill take break... this blew my mind tho... how the hell is the dea gonna stop something that you could fit 10 million dollars worth in a hearing aid, let alone mules.
Mar 29 2012 3:14PM
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accualyisdolan
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oh look, its the guy who thinks hes smarter than bishop...
Mar 29 2012 3:15PM
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AlwaysDisagrees
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If it's so expensive, how do you think it's going to end the war on drugs? You didn't explain your reasoning very well.
Mar 29 2012 3:16PM
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doitbig
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reason being the war on drugs has already failed.  legalizing and educating would cut potential profits to such a level that no one would care to produce or distribute the drug illegally.
Mar 29 2012 3:20PM
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djikstra
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this. i got a small dose of it before going under for surgery. sooo awesome. I could see it being really gnarly
Mar 29 2012 3:22PM
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accualyisdolan
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yeah theres sufentanyl and carfentanyl too, 10x and 100x more powerful than morphine. used to sedate elephants and shit. and they arent any harder to make than fentanyl, but why bother, all ur customers will die unless they toss a gram into the ocean and go swimming. the shits outa control. but at least it will end the fucking war on drugs so i can buy vicodin at 711 for 10 cents, which is all i need.
Mar 29 2012 3:24PM
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fujarome
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so that's it, huh? We legalize drugs and all the cartels will just pack it in and call it quits immediately?
Mar 29 2012 3:28PM
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doitbig
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Yup! 

...and my two sentence response to a troll will also solve world hunger and cure aids!  get real bro I was explaining OP's mindset not my own. 

But since you've asked, they will probably move on to more profitable endeavors like child sex trafficing and bath salts.  harder to mule children tho.

Mar 29 2012 3:34PM
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fujarome
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the internet sarcasm was lost in my response, that was my bad.

I hope they start smuggling exotic cheeses and things like that. I feel like it might be more fun for everybody
Mar 29 2012 3:45PM
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accualyisdolan
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reasonable point but the system going right now is imprison drug dealers, prisons get 40k a year of taxpayer money for each prisoner, the prisons pay congress. and the medical community wants you to keep paying doctors 500 bucks a visit so they can keep you coming back for prescriptions that cost cents to make, so they pay the congress to keep the system going...the dea raids houses and find millions of bucks, keeps most, sends the rest to congress to keep the system going... its americas embarrassing shitshow. they want to keep it going tho which is why we are essentially going to war with mexico, claiming we are only sending weapons and supplies to the mex police, whose cheifs heads are getting fedexed around by the cartels...

the main problem is its costing america big, and bitch mothers like kyles mom are dumb enough to think the war on drugs is working...

the funny thing is, the head cartel members want to keep it going too, otherwise they wouldnt profit

if you legalized in america, the cartels would go bust, and the kids sitting on rooftops with walkie talkies telling cartel members where the border patrol is at would go to fucking school instead.
Mar 29 2012 3:46PM
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doitbig
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i fucking love exotic cheese.
Mar 29 2012 3:47PM
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skithesprings
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Fuck yeah I'm addicted to fentanyl, eat that shit for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Black Steve ain't got shit on me.
Mar 29 2012 3:55PM
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accualyisdolan
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sorry meant to say sufentanyl and carfentanyl are 10x an 100x more powerful than fentanyl, meaning 1000x and 10,000x more powerful than morphine.
Mar 29 2012 3:55PM
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accualyisdolan
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this, and im surprised why so few people reach this conclusion just by thinking about it economically
Mar 29 2012 3:59PM
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AlwaysDisagrees
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We are no where close to legalizing all drugs. I still don't understand how this is going to end the drug war.
Mar 29 2012 4:00PM
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NBCskier
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my cousin traded me a 100mc/g patch to do some work with him on his deck. kept it on all day. take off at night. repeat four days a in a row. it was very pleasant.
Mar 29 2012 4:04PM
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accualyisdolan
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what did the mafia do after prohibition ended? they packed up and called it quits immediately.  nice intuition you got going for ya
Mar 29 2012 4:07PM
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Petey.
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I'm hoping to become a DEA field agent after school. It's dangerous but it'd be a rewarding career and a good opportunity to learn a lot. Stuff like this is interesting to read up on
Mar 29 2012 4:07PM
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doitbig
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do you get weekly updates on where the country stands on personal use policy? 

what don't you understand?  drugs = legal = no drug war.  but lets stay on topic, because we don't need another drug war debate thread.

Mar 29 2012 4:08PM
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doitbig
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actually they started selling drugs.  lol.
Mar 29 2012 4:09PM
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accualyisdolan
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my bad... need better meter
Mar 29 2012 4:11PM
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theabortionator
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I feel like this thread was missing something, oh yeah...

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Mar 29 2012 4:12PM
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AlwaysDisagrees
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So, what I'm getting from you is that the drug war isn't actually anywhere close to being over, despite the fact that you defended the OP saying "the drug war is so over."


You have completed misunderstood my question, and instead constructed a poorly supported argument against a claim I've never made.
Mar 29 2012 4:13PM
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