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Trayvon Martin shooting

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theabortionator
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Fucked up shit

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/trayvon-martin-final-moments_n_1366697.html

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/21/10799258-hundreds-march-in-support-of-trayvon-martin-family-in-miami-new-york
Mar 22 2012 3:04AM
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.RYAN66
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how old am I?


I am just not a fan of the mainstream media rallying these people and presenting things that arent true, I would like to see justice be served in court and the facts presented there, whether he is found guilty or innocent does not matter to me, but the amount of people who are saying these things astounds me.


the only people who have the right to make these remarks is the Martin family, they know their son and they can say however they feel and as grieving parents no one can hold that against them, however the rest of the black community does not need to blow this out of proportion as a white guy shooting a black kid, when the guy isnt white in the first place, to go and make assumptions that Zimmerman is guilty when none of them were there, and none of these people are getting information from investigators.


that is what aggravates me about this case. if Zimmerman is found guilty then i feel the same way towards him as i do any other murderer, and that is that he should be persecuted to the highest extent of the law, and that is the death penalty.
Apr 3 2012 5:46PM
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jewFro
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Yeah, this kids a criminal because he put a middle finger photo up on what I'm assuming was Facebook. Ok, that makes sense...
Apr 3 2012 5:46PM
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Mike-O
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Last fall you said you were 16, so now you are either 16 or 17, unless of course for some reason you lied.
Apr 3 2012 5:48PM
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.RYAN66
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not saying that, read my above post, but the mainstream media is portraying him as an innocent child who was murdered by some whack job who was trigger happy in the middle of the night. when none of us know what happened.


i am not saying that anyone is innocent or guilty just how i feel about how this is being portrayed.
Apr 3 2012 5:48PM
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Bodhisattva_
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So if I post a picture of myself on the internet flipping the camera off I deserve to be racially profiled and shot? And I'm no longer innocent and not allowed to walk around a predominately white neighborhood?

You disgust me RYAN66..



On another note, I heard this song on the radio a few days ago.
Apr 3 2012 5:49PM
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.Duncan.
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I think this is what almost everyone wants however it has not happened and that is why there is such an uproar, the family realized that there was likely not going to be a trial so they reached out to get some recognition for the case, on a side note though i find the "stand your ground law" of Florida to be disgusting and that it is one of the bigger problems that should be addressed.
Apr 3 2012 5:50PM
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.RYAN66
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you are assuming quite a lot out of that post, have you read the thread since i made that post?


I AM NOT SAYING THAT TRAYVON MARTIN DESERVED TO BE MURDERED, NO ONE DOES!

what i am saying is that this incident has been blown way to far out of proportion.
Apr 3 2012 5:52PM
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Mike-O
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Maybe to your tastes (the disgusting ones) but it's not simply about this incident and it never was, it mirrors aaaaaaaaalll similar cases that have happened over the years, it rallies about the still on-going racial profiling and prejudice and it's a pretty hot topic that deserves all the attention it gets.
Apr 3 2012 5:55PM
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1337
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you're the disgusting one....
Apr 3 2012 5:59PM
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theabortionator
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go fuck yourself

Apr 3 2012 6:00PM
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-Alpha2-
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You sir, are a fuck.
Apr 3 2012 6:00PM
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theabortionator
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Holy fuck. The whole new wave of spin comes out. See it. Bump a thread from before saying you're disgusted.


We're you there? No so you're relying on what was reported just like everyone else.



Don't come in here and act like you're something special and cracked a case.

Once again, go fuck yourself.
Apr 3 2012 6:03PM
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jsnow
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either fox news has done their job and brainwashed any common sense out of your head, or your just a rich white kid that doesn't understand much outside of your own little view of the world... wait that's the same thing!
Apr 3 2012 6:05PM
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Ian.D
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Holy shit you are ignorant. Kid from colorado thinks he knows what the fuck hes talking about
Apr 3 2012 6:13PM
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.RYAN66
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holy shit.

never said i cracked the case, just saying that this thread is the same thing that is happening in the media, portraying things with a bias.


people die every day, what does it matter what their race is? it doesnt! people do not deserve to be murdered, but it happens. here on the news a black man shot a hispanic man why isnt that getting national attention and outrage by the latino community?

i have not reported a single thing in this thread, only copy and pasted a link that i saw. I am not going to make my opinions like many are, on that Zimmerman should be killed and he is guilty. why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROOF!!!!

the only thing that is known right now is that a young man is dead, whether he was doing anything wrong, or if he was an innocent kid like you are all saying, is not up for us to decide and since what anyone on this site says has no value I will not put my personal opinion on what i think happened that night, since i only know what has been portrayed in the media and we all know how that can be biased.

this thread disgusts me because it is doing the same thing the media is doing, portraying one side of the story.



Apr 3 2012 6:23PM
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BootySpunk.
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So what you're saying is that if a white man walks into a black neighborhood he will get his ass kicked and that is okay. But if a black kid walks into a white neighborhood and gets his ass kicked that is bad? Come on double standards.

I really have no opinion of the matter one way or another. Just think the media and everyone else shouldn't act like they were right there.
Apr 3 2012 6:25PM
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Bodhisattva_
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This is somewhat reasonable.

And even though a lot of people are pushing for Zimmerman to be prosecuted or killed or something a lot of people are just angry that he isn't going on trial or anything.
Apr 3 2012 6:26PM
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BootySpunk.
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Hey look someone with some sense.
Apr 3 2012 6:26PM
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.RYAN66
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this is the main point i am trying to make.



Apr 3 2012 6:27PM
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1337
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everyone is up in arms because it was a young black kid shot by an older guy who self-appointed himself to be head watchdog of the neighborhood. People should be upset with this. Now that he still hasn't been arrested and there have been reports of him being attacked by Travon when he has no injuries on tape is pretty frustrating...
Apr 3 2012 6:27PM
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theabortionator
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It's just kind of funny that you wait till after there's this surge of spin going the other way and now suddenly decide to bump a thread and tell us how outraged you are.


Weird right?
Apr 3 2012 6:31PM
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.RYAN66
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my point is what does it matter that it was a black person or a white person? we are all american and we are all equal, the race card should not be played here.


also in my link that i posted there is supposudly a better view of injuries on zimmerman's head.
Apr 3 2012 6:33PM
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pointandshoot
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Well it's not just the 'black community" up in arms about this, so you're digging into that too much.... And this isn't so much about race as the precedent of vigilante justice in our society
Apr 3 2012 6:41PM
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Anathema
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shoot and kill a kid cause he was acting like a G.

well, i guess someone needs to kill 95% of NS..
Apr 3 2012 6:43PM
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theabortionator
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Wouldn't that be lovely?
Apr 3 2012 6:47PM
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1337
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it wouldnt matter if he was white or black, I just pointed out that he was black because they believe he was racially profiled. but if he was still murdered it would still be a problem
Apr 3 2012 6:50PM
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TheRightCoast
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They are making a big deal on him being black because they are saying that he was racially profiled.
Also a lot of evidence is pointing to Zimmerman being the aggresor for no reason.
Apr 3 2012 6:54PM
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.RYAN66
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where did you get his evidence? the main stream media?


that is what i am saying, there is NO facts of what happened that night except for we know that trayvon martin was shot and killed.
Apr 3 2012 7:13PM
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jewFro
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Zimmerman had over 100 pounds on the kid. Pretty sure that he could defend him self just fine, if that was indeed the case, without shooting Martin.
Apr 3 2012 7:32PM
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.RYAN66
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speculation<fact


weight doesnt mean anything, zimmerman looks like a fat ass.


but this is what i am saying, none of here can talk on this issue since no one here knows for a fact what happened.
Apr 3 2012 7:35PM
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danderson.
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Weight means a lot, actually. I know you're trying to "state the facts", but in all honesty, you sound like you're trying to defend Zimmerman.
Apr 3 2012 7:39PM
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jewFro
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Yes that is a speculation, but it's pretty logical. Martin was about 140 pounds, I don't care how well he can fight he's losing against a guy who's 250.

Including yourself, you seemed to be pretty hellbent on going against the grain in your first couple posts.
Apr 3 2012 7:39PM
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skithesprings
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NOT TAKING SIDES, JUST PUTTING THIS HERE...

Click for larger image
Apr 3 2012 7:45PM
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jewFro
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Is that even Martin? It's not that I don't believe it, it's just you can't see his face at all.
Apr 3 2012 7:51PM
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-MickeyM-
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It doesn't matter what race he is, the guy shot this 17 year old kid with no evidence of him doing anything wrong.
Apr 3 2012 7:51PM
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Bill.Nye
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Bad things happen. The most appalling part of this story isn't that some kid was shot and killed by some guy. If it were just that it would be a tragedy, but not a national story. The reason it's a national story is the actions (or lack thereof) of the police. You can't stop every act of violence, but we have a police force to try to get to the bottom of these things, and the fact that Zimmerman was not even arrested along with several other details that imply police misconduct, makes this story relevant to everyone. Shit happens, but the police are supposed to try and make it better, not worse.
Apr 3 2012 7:53PM
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.RYAN66
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thank you. this is my point the media is portraying these two people as a young innocent kid, and zimmerman has a picture where he is in a jail jump suit.


the media is fucked up, like i said earlier, it is sad that someone had to die, if martin was innocent then zimmerman should face the death penalty for killing someone, and for being that screwed up in the head just to kill someone because they are black. if martin actually did attack him then Zimmerman should have all of the right to take force against him. I am not even sure if zimmerman had a ccw. which goes back to my original stance that the facts have not been presented in this case.
Apr 3 2012 7:56PM
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snowfinder
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Even if Zimmerman's account is right and he was losing a fight he instigated how is using lethal force against an innocent and unarmed teenager justifiable? I don't care if he had needed stitches to close his wounds.

The facts are....he was asked to not engage and wait for police. He chose to confront an innocent civilian merely walking home. He wore no uniform. Had no authority to question or apprehend the boy. Probably approached him in a threatening manner and brandished a weapon at some point.

How many of us would not fear for our lives at that point? How many of us would fight for our survival? I am not saying Martin did...but if he had he would have been completely justified and if Zimmerman used a weapon against an unarmed civilian to end a fight he provoked than standing trial is the least he should face.

People trying to turn Zimmerman into some urban hero or as someone fighting for their life are missing the point. He murdered an unarmed man. That's what COWARDS DO.

Try doing what he did if you ever find yourself in a bar fight and see what happens
Apr 3 2012 8:24PM
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FerrisBueller
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You really think that a link from fox news is reliable at all?

You sir are a dumbfuck racist..i bet you feel pretty good about yourself.
Apr 3 2012 8:38PM
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FerrisBueller
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hahahahaahahahah ar6
Apr 3 2012 8:38PM
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FerrisBueller
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This makes sense to me, but i feel as if all your previous posts are ignorance and trying to be 'different' than what everyone else thinks.

 i understand how you want to try to see the news from other perspectives but from what we know, you should feel ashamed.
Apr 3 2012 8:44PM
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Bodhisattva_
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You're somewhat late, but good contribution anyways..
Apr 3 2012 8:45PM
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FerrisBueller
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ya my bad everyone im pretty late into this thread and story overall, lolz, but overall im thinking that this killing was a big misunderstanding from both parties, and people should learn to not assume one thing or the other, until they have proof of something, which is one of the hardest things to understand and learn.

either way fuck murderers, at least think about the implications before you pull that trigger...
Apr 3 2012 8:47PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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ha no wonder youre still bitter I called you white trash. nail on head
Apr 3 2012 9:03PM
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.Natty.
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The people who read one article filled with bias and speculation about the incident and immediately reacted with "someone should kill Zimmerman" are absolutely retarded.

No one knows all of the facts right now. Mourning Treyvon's death is something everyone can agree on but get off your high horse and let the goddamn police do their job. THEY'RE NOT GONNA CHARGE HIM WITH ANYTHING UNTIL THEY HAVE A SOLID CASE or else there's no point in charging him at all. If they did and all their evidence was speculation then Zimmerman would easily walk and then couldn't be charged again should anything more be discovered.
Apr 3 2012 9:08PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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why do people keep saying we don't kow the facts?

theres a 911 tape in which hes clearly instructed to stop following him, he obviously didn't. how is that viewed as anything other than being an aggressor?

Apr 3 2012 9:15PM
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.Natty.
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He wasn't told to stop following him we was told he didn't need to.

And according to Zimmerman, he lost him soon after. There's no evidence to disprove that.
Apr 3 2012 9:20PM
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.RYAN66
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did you read the thread?

how is fox news not reliable? they are just as biased as any other of the media outlets, just because they have conservative talk show hosts and not liberals like msnbc does not make them less credible.
Apr 3 2012 9:26PM
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jewFro
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You do know Zimmerman told the police that he shot Martin, right?
Apr 3 2012 9:28PM
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volvotom
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I am just really glad that I live in a state that does not give people charged with felonies concealed carry permits.
Apr 3 2012 9:29PM
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