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WSU vs. UW

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Free_Haven
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im having trouble deciding where to go. I know UW is a looked at as better but im looking for some personal expierences people may have. I love WSU campus and the fact it snows a hell of a lot more there in the winter. But UW is in Seattle and close to my home mountain. What are your guys's thoughts
Mar 21 2012 8:42PM
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Blake.P
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If you got in, without a doubt uw. Wsu has almost no good skiing near it, uw has tons, and Seattle is a great city
Mar 21 2012 9:33PM
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Ian.D
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UW rocks
Mar 22 2012 3:17AM
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Radio
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go cougs
Mar 22 2012 1:34PM
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Balto
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from a skier standpoint, UW is a million times better
Mar 22 2012 2:25PM
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SHampson
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from an academic standpoint, UW is a million times better.
Mar 22 2012 4:54PM
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cobra_commander
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As a UW student, all that prestige and ranking and other bull shit, does not really help the quality of your education.

There are people going to WSU right now getting a much better education then people at UW.

Honestly, go for which ever one fits you best, I would not fret to much over which one is viewed as being 'better.' In the end, college is what you make of it, and what you did while you were there is going to matter a whole lot more than the letter head that your transcript gets printed on.
Mar 22 2012 6:10PM
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Mama.
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WSU=better for your drinking life
UW=better for your skiing life
Mar 22 2012 6:25PM
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cobra_commander
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Also, if you go pick a school based on skiing, you are wasting your time and money.
Mar 22 2012 8:04PM
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SelenaGomez
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This.
But I have to say that while there are students getting a better education at WSU, there are likely more students recieving a better education at the University of Washington (all else being equal). Rankings are not to be disregarded, because they are established for a reason. Don't get too caught up in them, but there's a reason UCLA is ranked higher than Idaho State, and not because one is bigger. There are definitely some exceptions to these rankings, and WSU is certainly one of them, and commonly underratted when compared to UW.

It is agreed that this ranking and prestige shit that plagues many peoples college choice will not help the quality of one's education when comparing two schools that are relatively similar (to a certain extent). However, they will help after graduation. Someone who gets a 3.8 at UW in most given fields seems more likely to have greater opportunities on their plate than someone who attends WSU and receives the same grade point (again, all else being equal). Look into the research opportunities of both, the lab space, the hands on learning, as well as aspects that help you as a student. You're essentially shopping for your education, so get the best bang for your buck, and if WSU has a better learning environment for you than UW, then by all means, go.

In the end, it's going to depend on how you use what either college provides for you.

I have a friend who goes to WSU, and he comes back West on the breaks to ski Stevens.
Never heard of someone going over to Pullman on a skiing/snowboarding venture.

But again, refer to the OP that I quoted. I definitely had to ask myself that after being accepted to schools. You're going to school to learn, not ski. Skiing is extra.
Mar 22 2012 10:48PM
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SHampson
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As a UW student I'm calling bullshit on that one.
Mar 23 2012 4:55AM
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cobra_commander
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Feel free to. MOO, but most of the 'better than thou' opinions are grown more from students looking to justify the XXX people in their class with a professor who is uninterested in the subject, or whether they learn. I am looking at a much wider birth than UW with that statement.

Again MOO, but 70% of the students I see on campus, would get the same edumication that they don't need at WSU, as they get at UW, and they would probably get a better one at BCC, or OCC..

A lot of kids paying a lot of money for a pretty piece of paper with the student placing more value in the letter head than their potential employers do.

YMMV

What is your major?
Mar 23 2012 11:24AM
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Gnarwall
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WSU is in the middle of bumbfuck nowhere. Don't do it!
Mar 23 2012 9:43PM
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cobra_commander
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Ya know, some times it can be better to be out there away from others, than surrounded by lots of hipster fucktards voicing their opinion.
Mar 24 2012 12:16AM
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SHampson
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Yeah I see your point but I still believe that UW offers a much higher quality of education than other schools. Especially when the class sizes get smaller, you get in to your department and the professors start caring more about you. There is some significance to the rankings, and even if employers don't think much of the piece of paper coming from UW we are still given great networking opportunities through the school. I'll be getting in to IE Engineering College this summer.
Mar 24 2012 6:50PM
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Scott29~
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WSU -> drinking competition
UW -> academic competition
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Mar 24 2012 7:36PM
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cobra_commander
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What is the basis for this belief?

Lot of assurance that you will get in, especially since the application hasn't even opened yet. Good Luck though.
Mar 24 2012 9:27PM
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BASEDRILEY
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As some one going to college in the near future I would say this.

UW-Skiing is better, has a city around it good night life.

WSU- OK skiing, no city, lots of partys.
Mar 24 2012 10:44PM
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Funnel
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Go to WSU with me man. It is great for me coming from CA because it costs me less than a UC, I loved the campus, it's a PAC 12 school, and I'll be more likely to graduate in four years than I would be here in CA.
Mar 28 2012 8:23PM
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andreweckels
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to the UW students arguing about how good their school is, how the fuck do you know you're getting a better education if you haven't been anywhere else?
Mar 28 2012 9:34PM
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Scott29~
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I'm so much smarter than you I would expect you to break down in seizure if I shared just one of my thoughts with you~
Mar 28 2012 9:45PM
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cobra_commander
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I'd expect most sane individuals to break down if you shared one of your thoughts with them.
Mar 28 2012 10:16PM
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Jooky
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Go to Gonzaga.  That is probably the only school in this state with any sort of "reputation".

This whole UW/WSU thing is pointless.  Go to UW, be a number in the crowd..Go to WSU, be in the middle of nowhere.  Either way, the only thing of value you'll get is a diploma and you can get that from any college.  I hire engineers out of college and I really don't care where you went to school.   I'm going to look at your area of study, if your GPA is decent and if you have any relevant lab/work/club experience.  Thats it.  There is no prestige with either of them....especially in engineering.  If you fit the bill for what I'm looking for, I'll hire you....
Mar 30 2012 4:00PM
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cobra_commander
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Talking to several students who transferred into the UW from CC, many of them consider the education they receive here at the UW, to be of lower quality than the one they got at their respective CC.
Mar 30 2012 4:04PM
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SelenaGomez
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Seriously? Is that because of the smaller class sizes and less TAs teaching classes at CCs?
Mar 30 2012 4:20PM
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cobra_commander
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No, I think it has much more to do with the Professors teaching the classes at UW...
Mar 30 2012 4:36PM
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SelenaGomez
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Even once a student gets out of pre-req classes? I find it hard to believe that the quality of teaching would be lower at a university than a CC.
Mar 30 2012 4:45PM
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cobra_commander
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Ya, I am talking about students in various engineering programs.

Keep in mind, that at the UW, teaching classes is pretty low on the Professor's priority list.
Mar 30 2012 4:54PM
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Scott29~
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The commander is just mad cause he is dumb. So are the CC kids, bottom of the class~
Mar 30 2012 7:00PM
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Bodhisattva_
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My whole town goes to WSU and continues what they did here, being drunken hillbillies..
That being said my brother is going there so I guess I have to say go Coug's now..
And yeah Pullman is bumfuck nowhere for sure but it seemed like a cool campus and I feel like it would be a good experience, although it seems to me like college is what you make of it.
Mar 31 2012 1:38PM
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papermache
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Ya but fuck spokane. That place is worse than anywhere, even if pullman is in the middle of nowhere.

Definitely agree with Cobra, college is about the skills you take from it not the masthead on your diploma. true words for any freshman.

Apr 4 2012 1:33AM
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Jooky
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^ oh yeah, Spocompton SUCKS
Apr 4 2012 4:39PM
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cobra_commander
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meh, some places suck, some places are cool. All of them are what you make of it. There are lots of places in this world I would take Spokane over... been to a few of them too.
Apr 4 2012 5:05PM
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Clint_C
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Skiing is life, college is a stage in life. Go through a stage that complements life

UW

Apr 12 2012 1:45AM
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Ian.D
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words of wisdom right thur
Apr 12 2012 2:39AM
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cobra_commander
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Vary vary temporary wisdom based on a total and intentional choice to ignore reality.

but let me know what you think at age 30...
Apr 12 2012 6:21AM
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Lifestyles
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if you got into uw, go there no doubt. I got into wsu, didnt get into uw, so im heading south. wsu in the middle of no where, you may become a professional drinker at wsu tho.
Apr 14 2012 3:23PM
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cobra_commander
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says the guy with an Arizona icon.

talk about wasting your time and money.
Apr 14 2012 3:36PM
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Lifestyles
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U of A is way better then WSU.
Apr 14 2012 6:10PM
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cobra_commander
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In establishing lifetime Idiotic Alcoholic Douchebags, yes. Anything else, no. I would put more weight behind a transcript from ITT, than from UofAlcholism.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Apr 15 2012 1:13AM
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papermache
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704554104575435563989873060.html

weird, the top job recruiters evidently forgot about UW, they dont seem to be listed....also AU is nowhere to be found either.
Apr 15 2012 5:10AM
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cobra_commander
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weird, they offer little to no explanation for their choices.

Penn State probably got on there since it is so big and produces a ton of worker bees, but not so many others.

Funny how Purdue beat out Cal-Tech and MIT for Engineering...

I expect better from the WSJ.

Apr 15 2012 1:19PM
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Lifestyles
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You must of been picked on as a kid.
Apr 15 2012 1:25PM
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papermache
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back when it was written they had some other articles about their methodology but the video kinda explains where they were going with it. Obviously not the most empirical report in the world but its insightful.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704554104575435563989873060.html#articleTabs%3Dvideo
Apr 15 2012 3:48PM
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cobra_commander
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I called Idiotic Alcoholic Douchbags, Idiotic Alcholic Douchbags, so.....


...I was picked on as a child?


You must associate yourself with being an Idiotic Alcoholic Douchebag. It is ok, admitting you have a problem is the first step.
Apr 15 2012 7:05PM
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TheDude
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same situation, wanna pledge the same frat and we can find the 3 other skiers at wsu and go to silver mt every weekend?
Apr 24 2012 9:38AM
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papermache
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The skiing sucks at wsu ill be the first to admit thay, but its a rad school with some great culture and a phenomenal alumni network. newsflash, u dont need to go to college to ski, and if ur picking a school based on nearby mountains, ur selling urself short
Apr 24 2012 6:25PM
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Bodhisattva_
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My brother snowboards but he would be down to shred every weekend. Not down for pledging a frat though.
Apr 24 2012 6:32PM
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zakaroo
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Much better green and less hicks (I'm guessing) at UW than WSU. I can't give a very good opinion since I'm only applying for college right now, but the UW campus is super pretty especially in the Spring time, and it's close to everything in Seattle. Any Metropolitan Area>Pullman, WA any day.
Apr 25 2012 1:02AM
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cobra_commander
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I am glad that you have an opinion based on guesswork. In the future, please keep it to yourself, as it is utterly worthless to everyone with a brain.
Apr 25 2012 2:54AM
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alvy.
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:0 tell em cobra
Apr 26 2012 1:01PM
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