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Algerian Jihadist responsible for France wave of shootings

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sherwood4099
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Children, innocent civilians and classic paki-made tactics America sent a flash warning to France when this guy moved back to France from Afghanistan after completing training camps and escaping from a Khandhar prison. Despite this th French gov. Consistently informed the media they believed was the work of domestic neo natzis. Surprise surprise he's an admitted Al Queda operative who murders people "in retribution for the Palestinian children".... Wake up call. He's since shot 3 cops as they tried to raid his appt.
Mar 21 2012 4:36PM
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sherwood4099
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Waiting for the Muslim apologists who think Jihad a Wahhabi islamofaciism is a fabricated threat
Mar 21 2012 4:38PM
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slash22
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Not making excuses for him, it's terrible what he did, but how many civilians have been killed in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine in the past 10 years? But i guess you believe the lives of 3 french civilians far outweigh thousands of muslims.
Mar 21 2012 5:17PM
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Radio
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you think it is the french who are killing kids in palestine?
Mar 21 2012 5:20PM
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sherwood4099
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It's not about the value of different peoples lives And in Iraq and Afghanistan more civilians have been killed by other Muslims than by US troops and the only time US troops, in this conflict, have intentionally targeted civilians it was a rogue drunken solider who was not user orders... Intentional targeting of civilians and accidental collateral damage are light years apat morally imo
Mar 21 2012 5:20PM
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sherwood4099
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He killed a bunch of Jewish children in front of their father. Some of the boy will be buried in Israel this morning.
Mar 21 2012 5:21PM
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Mike-O
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Not defending this piece of shit, but the prison escape info might be bullshit, as no records show him ever been held in Kandahar.
Mar 21 2012 5:24PM
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fujarome
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they're actually in hour 18 or 19 of a siege on the guy's house. Truth is, he's probably going to die tonight.
Mar 21 2012 5:27PM
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slash22
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True, but if your mother, sister, father etc. is killed in a bombing are you really going to care if it was intentional or not. Either way your family is dead and your not going to be to happy about it
Mar 21 2012 5:39PM
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sherwood4099
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You may be right who knows if the afghans even keep usaable records. But it seems like there's a good chance he escaped in that breakout. http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/03/post_2.php
Mar 21 2012 5:56PM
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sherwood4099
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I'm gonna be way more pissed if I get an ultimatum about how it was in the name of Allah and they deserved it then if I got an accidental damage report and an appoligy
Mar 21 2012 5:57PM
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sherwood4099
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Seriously. They have the power cut. Rumors GIGN is there and have blown holes in the wall as access points.
Mar 21 2012 5:58PM
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sherwood4099
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Apparently GIGN has talked him down? After 16 hrs
Mar 21 2012 6:04PM
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geteducated
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im disappointed. seals short bin laden through the eye. if gign expects me to use their character in cs1.6 again they better stepp it up.
Mar 21 2012 6:07PM
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sherwood4099
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The GIGN guys I'm seeing in videos and photos of the scene all look like terrorists themseleves or Spetznanz or something they all are rocking the classic Hadji balaclava
Mar 21 2012 6:09PM
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Mike-O
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They want to take him alive...
Mar 21 2012 6:12PM
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maximiliaan
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Didnt knew america had something to do with this
Mar 21 2012 6:15PM
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sherwood4099
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Well we warned France and had a file on him that's about the extent of it
Mar 21 2012 6:19PM
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fujarome
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And thats why certain ns members have a dislike for algerians
Mar 21 2012 6:19PM
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sherwood4099
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But but I thought death instead of capture by the filthy Jew loving infidels was much Halal?
Mar 21 2012 6:21PM
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Mike-O
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Seriously, stop saying "we". It's very deceptive and untrue.
Mar 21 2012 6:22PM
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sherwood4099
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In Israel they don't risk their troops in stupidly dangerous raids like this they just evacuate and bulldoze the building.
Mar 21 2012 6:23PM
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sherwood4099
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I am American. My government sent the French a detailed flash warning... What's deceptive?
Mar 21 2012 6:24PM
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*SNO*
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What happened?
All the info I heard about this was on German news, which I dont understand.
Mar 21 2012 6:33PM
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sherwood4099
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-Algerian French citizen trains at Paki made terror camps - gets imprisoned in Khandhar Afghanistan by anti-tail forces - hadjis do massive jail break involving tanker trucks and suicide bombers 1000 tangos escape -America warns France guy is on his way back and confirm he is a trained operative - guy kills an off duty paratrooper point blank -tango calmly shoots up Jewish school and kills the rabbis kids in front of him escapes on scooter - manhunt begins liberal French media blames Domestic neo natzis - turns out to be a jihadist - stand off insues 3 cops shot - Terrorist claims in police negotiation to be Al Queda affiliated and killing for the Palestinian childrenz
Mar 21 2012 6:42PM
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sherwood4099
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Still waiting for the jihad apologists to get in here and blame Israel and USA for Muslims bad behavior and archaic beliefs
Mar 21 2012 6:48PM
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Lucas
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Mike o thinks he knows a ton but really anything involving "America" he gets pissed about. Lol.
Mar 21 2012 6:49PM
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*SNO*
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Oh shit
When I saw it I thought it was a metro bombing or something.
Mar 21 2012 6:51PM
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sherwood4099
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Nah no bombs but deffinatly a calculated terrorist attack against Jews
Mar 21 2012 6:53PM
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LivingColour
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I feel bad for the non-extremists of Islam. These mother fuckers are really giving them a bad rep
Mar 21 2012 6:56PM
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Mike-O
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I was simply noting that sherwood had shit all to do with it, and is not entirely part of "we", don't know how it affects my "knowing" of things.

But this is just my anti-patriot side talking.


SUOMI PERKELE!!! HAKKAA PÄÄLLE, SUOMEN POIKA...
Mar 21 2012 6:58PM
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sherwood4099
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I feel bad for the victims of the attack and their family members I wait on my Muslim sympathy it's just the last feeling that comes to mind right now. Even though it does totally suck for honest, civil, modern followers of Islam
Mar 21 2012 7:00PM
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fujarome
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actually no, the attack against the jews wasn't the originally intention. He wanted to kill more soldiers, but was unable to and the school provided a target of opportunity.
Mar 21 2012 7:54PM
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sherwood4099
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Dude give me a break just because they were secondary targets does not make it calculated anti semitism...
Mar 21 2012 8:01PM
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fujarome
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i'm not doubting that the guy wanted to kill jewish people (i mean...he did in the end, didn't he?) but it wasn't his primary motive.
Mar 21 2012 8:03PM
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TheStamos
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I think any violence in society is CANCER. That is not a way to represent your religion, Yelling GOD IS GREAT while setting off a bomb or killing innocents doesn't say a whole lot about the rest of your people does it. They need a new PR guy or some shit but these extremest are ruining it for there religion, No country in the world is gonna wanna deal with these ancient blood thirsty representatives of the Muslim religion. WHere are the guys who comne out and preach non violence? Where is there Martin Luther King?
Mar 21 2012 8:08PM
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feihlination
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obviously there is no excuse for something like that.

i just know that it has nothing to do with "muslims" in general being a problem. no matter how large they are, you talk about groups that misinterpret the koran, as the jihad has literally no foundation in it.

not all muslims are bad and its very important to never forget that.

if there was an eternal murder count grouped by religions, i am pretty sure that muslims wouldnt win against christians. this is obviously not an excuse for anything or an invitation for muslims to kill more christians to bring the world back in order.

Mar 21 2012 8:10PM
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.Capn.
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Getting angry and making generalizations and sweeping accusations truly is the real solution to the issue.
Mar 21 2012 8:26PM
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sherwood4099
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Who's doing that? My thread is about islamofacists and jihadis not about "all" Muslims I specify which ones I'm talking about and you know what? there's a hell of a lot of them even if they don't represent the majority of the followers of Islam.
Mar 21 2012 8:52PM
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sherwood4099
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If your saying throughout history that Christians have killed more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians I would love a source. What about Jews? And how many of their own. It seems to me different sects of Islam and different tribes and families and nations like killing each other even more than they like killing Christians or Jews
Mar 21 2012 8:55PM
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.Capn.
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There are 'a hell of a lot of' violent and radical capitalists too. In fact more violent acts of terrorism have been committed in the name of capitalism than Islam. Why don't we put the magnifying glass on all capitalists then? Even if the violent ones don't represent the majority.
Mar 21 2012 10:02PM
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Campeador
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What the hell are you even talking about?

Capitalist terrorism?

You kids just try so hard to make analogies for Islam when none exist.

Mar 22 2012 6:52AM
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Campeador
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Anyway, who could be surprised that such an act was carried out my someone who follows the religion of peace and tolerance.

It's a backwards faith and as of yet I have not heard or read of one religious leader in the Middle East condemning these attacks on children. Where's the outrage? If a Jewish gunman went into a Muslim school and shot up Muslim children, the Muslims would be out in fury trying to kill every unbeliever in sight.

Islam needs to be recognized for the retrograde faith that it is. No longer can it hide behind this multiculturalism bullshit. If we're only pointing out the most negative aspects of the faith, why should normal Muslims care? Islam requires drastic reform, there's no room in the world any longer for 7th century dogma.
Mar 22 2012 6:59AM
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feihlination
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much less for a 0th century dogma
Mar 22 2012 7:14AM
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.Capn.
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It's disheartening to see people so inclined to hate. When you back a group of people into a wall like you're proposing what choice do they have but to fight back? Not saying they're right, but I'm saying it's what you're going to get.

Clear analogies for Islam exist in a metaphorical sense. Picture tomorrow China comes into you're neighborhood with patriot missiles and flash bombings over night. The next morning, and for the next ten years, you constantly have tanks and men with M-4's rolling up and down your streets while all you're trying to do is raise a family and keep a job. During the ten years its likely you and your family witness death on a semi-regular basis and know of friends and family that have been killed or detained indefinitely. At some point you'll decide to fight back, and it won't be because you're some kind of christian radical or panco-religious nut job but just because you want a normal life for your family, and its the only option you see left on the table.

You seem very dead set on seeing a black and white issue, and it just isn't that. Islam is not the reason anyone kills. Aggressive (to say the least) western foreign policy, both military and social in scope, have been stretching people thin long before Jihad was a household term.

Also Capitalist terrorism exists, unfortunately just in such an organized and cohesive setting it is often difficult to identify.
Mar 22 2012 8:26AM
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mattytru
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i cant tell if youre serious or not.. a backwards faith? wtf? do you know how similar christianity, judaism, and islam are? secondly, why are you calling on islamic religious leaders to codemn these attacks? you dont understand that the person who committed these act ISNT ASSOCIATED WITH MODERATE ISLAM. islamic leaders have decried many attacks in the past (plus im sure its not going to be a widely publicized event; america hates its muslims), its just that by this point everyone is supposed to be aware that extremists operate beyond the scope of the actual religion and really have no affiliation with it whatsoever. the guy who committed these shootings wasnt even acting in the name of islam, it was more politically motivated.
Mar 22 2012 9:36AM
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Dunnah
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Remember this?
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Sorry if a few civilians die over in Afghanistan
Mar 22 2012 9:50AM
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Mike-O
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That's a hateful and ignorant statement right there.

Look, what happened was awful, and nothing will ever change that, but to try and justify death of civilians by showing that is pathetic and sad.

Someone just posted in another thread, how many Afghan civilians have never even heard of 9/11, or even know why their country has been invaded and warred over. If that's a justifiable reason to get killed by your standars, then fuck you.
Mar 22 2012 9:53AM
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mattytru
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youre doing it wrong
Mar 22 2012 9:59AM
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shibby
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You guys all make it sound as if the US and NATO forces over there are explicitly targeting civilians.
Mar 22 2012 10:10AM
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Dunnah
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I believe Machiavelli said something to the likes of "Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared."

I'm not ignorant nor stupid.  If the Al-Qaeda organization was a country or ran a country, I believe people would think the war on terror is more justifiable. 

That being said, I'm all for love and peace and I wish we could all get along.
Mar 22 2012 12:29PM
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