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As many of you know, this hasn't been a good year for skiing in the east. Considering this fact, there are a lot of things marked down a lot. I am thinking about getting some full tilt boos for next year. Does anybody know what model I should get and what size. I just started skiing park this year, but I'm dedicated and working at it as much as I can.
Did you read the how to buy ski boots thread? i'd say its a good idea to start with... https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/311248/ now with that disclaimer, the Booters are supposed to be a good cheap intermediate freestyle boot. i've got it and love it
a boot is a fucking boot. go into your local ski shop with NO preconceived ideas about what you want/like and let the boot fitter do his job. and don't throw a hissy fit when he tells you to try on some boots made by Lange or something like that... just try on a bunch and get the one that fits your foot best
this and ic an't even imagine who would complain about fitting very well into lange boots. I do and there's no way i'd just be like, nah imma buy full tilts.
Eh not completely true. You want to have the boot fit the best it can, I agree, but also you have to keep in mind the style of skiing you will be doing which corresponds with the flex. So, you are not going to want a very stiff racing Lange boot for skiing park.
I wouldn't dare want a soft boot for any type of skiing, especially park.
It comes down to personal preference.
Personally, I have Full Tilt First Chairs. They come standard with a #10 flex tongue (Full Tilts stiffest tongue), along with the #10s, I have a pair of #8s. Much softer in my opinion, so I use them for park riding, I still find them too soft at times.
I wouldn't even dream of using a #6 for park, or any type of skiing.
For OP, listen to what people are saying in this thread.
Go get fitted again, don't be biased towards any brand. Go in, and actually spend time trying on a boot. There are too many ignorant kids here that go get Full Tilt Hot Doggers because they heard it's the best park boot, but in the end, they don't fit properly, and end up in pain.
go to a boot fitter man. i did last week and have gone from a 27.5 krypton rampage with intuituin liners (basically a full tilt) and a "B" tongue to a size 26.5 Lange RS140 with a surefoot custom liner. and me bro who only skis park is in a lange rx130 and loves em
They do make the other boots with a cushy active footboard for obvious reasons, and I prefer the #10's in the park. "first chairs" the name kind of speaks for itself, no offense to you.
I have #10s for charging big mountain and powder, or generally any day where I'm not in a park.
And I have #8s for park days, flat landings, sometimes the give can be nice.
It also comes down to how I feel. I don't go hard in park, it's something that I've just started learning. When I do start pushing myself more, I'm sure I'll just stick with the #10s.
They just figured they could sell more of them by marketing them to kids with their parents credit cards than older skiers who know their gear. Thus they change the name and the image.
It's so subjective. #4 is soft as hell, but I am 155 lbs and they are nice for rails and buttering especially, and L or smaller jumps, let's you bend down more, load up your legs deeper for better pop IMO. Also depends on what ski you have. When I'm on my fatties I use a #10 because I like a ton of support and responsiveness in the pow. I'd rather a #8 to be honest but extra tongues are $50 and also hard to come by
i wish full tilt's weren't the least durable pieces of shit ive ever owned. i LOVE the way my seth pros fit, but ive had to replace:
13 buckles (all of them metal)
4 or 5 cables
both rubber heels
and recently the side plastic "rivet" thing that attaches the back to the main shell came off when skiing
Nearly all my metal buckles have needed replacing, but nothing else. They fit like a damn glove and I have a job to pay for maintenance of them so I don't care! Fit first, durability second as far as I'm concerned. I feel ya.
You are about 20 lbs lighter than me, and I am also 6'3".
I can butter just as well as I have ever been able to, anything softer, I'm too forward and uncomfortable. I hate soft stuff, I can do it for skis, but I like to butter everything and jib stuff.
Then I have stiff powder planks. #10 gives me great support, #8 isn't enough. I've tried it, didn't like it.
I also traded my old TNF coat that I had won for the #8 tongues. So I feel like it was a good deal.
And I'm starting to see the durability issues with the boots.
I've finally blew a buckle and had to replace it. My soles aren't smooth, they're convexed now, heel is worn out like no other.
Either I try my luck with the First Chairs next year, or find something else.
I'll see what it comes down to.
I'd rather put my money into new boots, instead of new parts.
DUDE you need to have an active footboard to take the impacts, not a rigid footboard that wears out! Just like I said, tongue flex is subjective, personal preference, although it sort of works well to use a flex proportional to how soft of a ski is used, assuming average weight. I assume you ski aggressively which is why guys like Hjorliefson ride a custom stiff ass race boot, you're right, support is good.