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Rossi FKS or Look pivot??

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Dennis_Knoch
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i am looking to get new bindings next year but can't decide what ones to get are they pretty much the same or whats up.. or anyone thinking any other bindings like jester or something

Feb 27 2012 11:36PM
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Billups
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The only difference is the brand name and the color scheme.
Feb 27 2012 11:38PM
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VD.
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They're exactly the same binding below 'paint job'
Feb 27 2012 11:43PM
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hokkanee
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Do you like orange or silver?
Feb 27 2012 11:56PM
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hokkanee
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Do you like orange or silver?
Feb 27 2012 11:56PM
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cobra_commander
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They are both the original Look Navada binding, many moons ago, when Dynastar became part of the Rossignol Group, Rossignol bought the rights to use Look bindings. Esentially all Rossi Bindings come from look, just like all Rossi Boots come from Lange.
Feb 28 2012 12:00AM
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Kreech
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go with what you can get cheaper; they're the same thing.
Feb 28 2012 2:07AM
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Mag
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whats the difference between look pivot jib and rossi fks then?
Feb 28 2012 3:35AM
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BasedDogSteeez
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someone was telling me that the pivots are a lot more heavier than the fks. i have the fks right now, and they're a pretty good binding, just kind of annoying at times.
Feb 28 2012 3:41AM
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BWalmer
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Nothing...Look adds that "jib" name to make it sound like more of a park binding.

There is literally no difference other than the name and color scheme...they both come from the same mold, the same parts, and the same factory.
Feb 28 2012 8:17AM
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iffe
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Nope.
Feb 28 2012 9:45AM
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bdarb207
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Very helpful review. Very good except when their often annoying for a reason I will not disclose. I feel like I've ridden them
Feb 28 2012 10:43AM
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VD.
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As far as I am aware the jib (this one http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/look-px-12-jib-medium-90mm-brakes.aspx) is the same bindings as the axail2 (this one http://www.rossignol.com/US/CA/axial2-120-xxl_RC1A012_product_ski-men-bindings-axial2.html)
Feb 28 2012 10:47AM
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cobra_commander
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I don't think anyone else mistook this for a review thread.
Feb 28 2012 10:50AM
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bdarb207
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He asked which bindings he should get why would you not say the one thing you don't like about them? Seems useful
Feb 28 2012 10:52AM
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BWalmer
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He's asking about the pivot jib. Those are the px jibs. Btw, if you DO want a review, check under my videos, it might help you out.
Feb 28 2012 11:31AM
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bdarb207
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Thanks I actually was curious I've only ever tried marker and salomon I was wondering
Feb 28 2012 11:45AM
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Balto
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salomon drivers>fks
Feb 28 2012 12:52PM
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J-Sway
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um coke or pepsi
Feb 28 2012 12:54PM
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Simmo
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Absolutely the opposite of what everyone was saying when Dumonts skis were falling off every pipe run.

And the opposite to what all mogul skiers would tell you

And the aerialists...
Feb 28 2012 1:32PM
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rudager
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This is how I see it. Honestly, they're both the top binding in the market, people can argue back and forth forever. Im still skiing on STH 16s from when they first were released (6 seasons ago), they're still holding up. I'd buy the STH 16/FFG16 over the FKS any day
Feb 28 2012 1:37PM
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Boggs
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And I the opposite. But I agree, they are both the top, so stop arguing about em, choose one, and ride it.
Feb 28 2012 1:46PM
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BasedDogSteeez
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they're good except when you take them off. they heel piece spins as you probably already know, and some times dosnt go all the way down when you are taking them off. if you're going to get them NEVER FLIP THE HEEL PIECE UP WITH YOUR HAND. it'll break your finger. happened to me when i first got them.
Feb 28 2012 6:35PM
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rozboon
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The Pivot 12 and Pivot 14 'Jib' bindings didn't come with lifter plates, which is what made them 'Jib', apparently.

However, it's worth nothing that (almost all, I think, depending on generation) these bindings don't have the proper full turntable heel. They have the funny dildo heel that's like... semi turntable. It doesn't have the adjustable arms, it has solid aluminium ones and you adjust the forwards pressure with a track just like most other bindings. I personally suspect these bindings have a propensity for ripping out the heelpiece, but that's just me.

I'm 99% sure the new (actually old) Pivots are just Pivots, there's no Jib or otherwise.

As for OPs question... this guy has been asking about 18 DIN bindings for ages. I think it's just some kid dreaming out loud on the interwebnet... or planning to be poser-ific. As I said in some of his other threads, if you have to ask these kinds of questions about 18 DIN bindings, you probably shouldn't be on an 18 DIN binding.

Feb 28 2012 6:35PM
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Balto
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ride 916s

you will not come out
Feb 28 2012 6:59PM
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ballsofsteeze
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yes, there is a space when the heelpiece is down, and if your finger is in it when you pull up the heelpiece, you'll have a conflict of interest between the metal heelpiece and your delicate bone and flesh fingers. metal always wins.
Mar 1 2012 10:49PM
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.nasty
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we've come a long way. haha

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Mar 1 2012 11:00PM
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spinks
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/\/\/\/\/\/\ Love this photo! As you can see we have come a long way, however those old Look Nevada's are pretty much the exact same as those new FKS bindings
Mar 2 2012 3:06PM
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84891jnf92048
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I can't help but point out where you are wrong, no matter how unrelated it is to the thread:

Rossi has that Sensor bullshit on some of their more intermediate level boots. Lange has that on none of their boots. Also, be careful with the "come from" language, it makes it sound like Lange and Look are separate entities from Rossignol, when in reality they are practically the same company, that operate out of the same building, (Maybe not the exact same offices, but both are in an building in Newpark in Kimball Jct, UT.) and people who work for Rossi can get Look and Lange just as easily as they can get Rossi shit.
Mar 2 2012 3:24PM
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cobra_commander
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The 'sensor' is just a cut up zeppa... All Rossi boots are developed by a guy who works for Lange... The current sensor boots are current/old Lange shells with colorful plastic and a cut up zeppa.
Mar 2 2012 3:42PM
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japanada
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I ride PIVOT 14s on my park skis, they have a half turnable heel and a 14 din, I love em to death. Lighter than FKSs, easier to adjust quickly, and a lot most as strong imo.

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Mar 2 2012 3:46PM
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Crispy.
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They are if you're comparing the Look Pivot 180s and the Rossignol FKS 140s, due to the full metal toe, but if you take the FKS 180s and compare them to the looks they will be the same weight.
Mar 2 2012 4:31PM
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BasedDogSteeez
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I had no idea, I was just going on what my bud said. Haha. I'm glad someone knew though.
Mar 4 2012 1:21AM
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Dr.Gnar
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I swear by STH Drivers, swear by them.
Mar 4 2012 5:29AM
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butterfactory
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J-Swayum coke or pepsi


FUCK YOU THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
Mar 7 2015 3:48PM
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veng_m
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butterfactoryFUCK YOU THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT


they're the exact same shit which brand do you like better
Mar 7 2015 6:44PM
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morillevallieres
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same thing, different colour
Mar 7 2015 8:39PM
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