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Nokia Pure View 808 - 41 Mega Pixel camera

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Mike-O
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So, Nokia came out with some new phone models just now, and the most interesting one is definitely Pure View 808, which comes with a 41-Megapixel camera.

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Seems like the pics themselves will be converted to a much smaller file/pixel size, but the sheer magnitude, they say, will rid a shitload of graininess and create much better pictures in low-light scenarios. Basically they're PR'ing that this is a mid-grade DLSR that comes with a smartphone. The price is pretty steep, 999 euros.

Here are some PR pics, might be altered somewhat but if close to truth they look amazing.

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Feb 27 2012 8:18AM
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the.cheat
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i just find it hard to believe that first shot came from a phone. and how does more mp=less grain?
Feb 27 2012 10:22AM
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Mike-O
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The point is that many and many pixels are used to create one pixel, fixing issues that camera phones or DSLRs for discussion's sake.

"The Nokia Pure View divides the 41-megapixels so that every 7 pixels create one superpixel. This technology behind the combining pixels leads to better filming conditions in dusk and dark environments and benefits digital zoom functions in the phone by manifolds in comparison to competitors' cameras, with the both areas having been detrimental issues in existing camera phones."

-Anssi Männistö, professor of Visual Journalism, University of Tampere
Feb 27 2012 11:49AM
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Mike-O
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And here are two pictures taken by lucky owners of the new phone today.

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Some people are saying that it may have some DOF issues and blurring on both extreme horizontal sides. And correction to the price, it's actually only 450 euros.
Feb 27 2012 11:54AM
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[evan]
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Meh idk, i just dont see any use for that quality of photos if theyre not shot using manual settings, its just a cool picture.
Feb 27 2012 4:30PM
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Mike-O
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Could you elaborate? I don't know what you mean.
Feb 27 2012 4:33PM
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[evan]
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What makes a DSLR a great camera isnt how many MP it has, the only real thing MP do for a DSLR is make it so you can print bigger photos without losing quality. The real guts are things like the resolution, aperture, iso settings, shutter speed, etc. Things that actually "make" the camera, not some obnoxiously big number that nobody will ever have any use for. I'm sure some filmer dads and soccer moms will buy it (if they have those in Norway), but aside from the general market, no legitimate photographer will spend that much money on that little gimmick.
Feb 27 2012 4:59PM
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Mike-O
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Nokia is from Finland, not Norway just to correct.

I think the point here is not the actual size of the 41-mp, but how it is utilized in contrast to other camera phones, as I explained earlier.

http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/uploads/mediaplugin/doc/nokia-808-pureview-data-sheet.pdf

That's the data with aperture and such.
Feb 27 2012 5:04PM
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[evan]
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Link is broked.

Oh yeah dude for sure, in comparison to other camera phones, this thing straight up shits on them. I dont think itll have much competition for a while. I just dont see a need. It's a beautiful phone and thats a really cool feature dont get me wrong, its just not in my mindset to see an everyday use for this.
Feb 27 2012 5:16PM
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Mike-O
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Works fine for me.

I for one don't have a smartphone, or even a cameraphone at the moment, I'm rocking a Nokia 3310 that I got when I was 14 years old, still works like a fucking charm and all I need is text and calls anyway. But for a smartphone priced at 450, I for one would choose one that has all the capabilities of others and a superior camera, and there has to be a lot of "camera phone enthusiasts" out there.

But I'd have to say that one of the iPhone's more marketable aspects has been the camera, and this blows it out of the water. It just sucks that Nokia is bad at marketing these days, this phone will only take off with some serious word-of-mouth.
Feb 27 2012 5:21PM
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[evan]
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I think that what actually makes the iphone so appealing is that its simple AND high quality, I dont know if this Nokia phone is going to be easy enough to be appealing as the iphone to the everyday consumer.
Feb 27 2012 5:28PM
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dispatchQ_main
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Most pro photographers will tell you they don't carry their Hasselblad everywhere. Many keep a point and shoot in there pocket so when the moment comes and they don't have there camera there still set. Now with cell phone cameras becoming this good, there's no use for the point and shoot. I for one really like the camera on my 4s. It is perfect for most times I want to take a picture of friends and memories. No need for professional pictures for that kind of stuff.
Feb 27 2012 5:33PM
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erikK
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wait
what?
Feb 27 2012 10:10PM
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