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Ron Paul 2012

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TheStudioCC
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Lately I've been following the political race, and I really believe in Ron Paul. Do you guys like him? He really makes a lot of sense I don't see why people don't.

(Sorry for the political shitstorm guys)
Feb 27 2012 1:08AM
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Bill.Nye
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I don't think people should have to move out of their homes because of an oppressive government. I am not supporting the idea that the federal government should be able to be oppressive either, I think neither should. Ron Paul seems to mostly only care about keeping the federal government out of your life, which in certain cases, leads to the state government actually being able to be more powerful in your life.
Feb 29 2012 7:01PM
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Bill.Nye
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He doesn't say that he would pass the we the people act unilaterally either, but why do you think that that would be impossible for him to pass, even though he says he would fight for it, but other things that he also would fight for are relevant because he could get them passed. It's an unjustified double standard. You're writing off things he wants to do that you don't agree with because he wouldn't be able to get them passed, but the things you do agree with he can apparently.

Cognitive dissonance......
Feb 29 2012 7:04PM
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john_i_am
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I am simply saying that you have an option.  With an oppressive (where we are headed. Patriot act SOPA NDAA) government, you do not have that luxury. 

Feb 29 2012 7:09PM
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you have a very pessimistic and unrealistic view of the states if you really think Texas would ban atheists from holding office rather than devise their own legislation to protect peoples rights as suited to that individual states need- as it is the states responsibility not the federal governments.

Seriously what the fuck are you talking about banning Atheists from holding office that's fear mongering.
Feb 29 2012 7:10PM
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Bill.Nye
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They already do. The law is on the books in Texas.
Feb 29 2012 7:12PM
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Bill.Nye
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So if you don't believe that he could even do the things that you support him for, what's the point of supporting him? You might as well not vote.
Feb 29 2012 7:14PM
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There are quite a few ludacris laws on the books, in NY "Citizens may not greet each other by 'putting one’s thumb to the nose and wiggling the fingers,'" that doesn't mean given the opportunity they would be enforced.
Feb 29 2012 7:16PM
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Amadeus.
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hahah this is brilliant.
Feb 29 2012 7:18PM
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Bill.Nye
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If they did enforce it, wouldn't you like the ability to challenge it in the highest court in the land? That's an important check on power that the "we the people" act would get rid of.
Feb 29 2012 7:19PM
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Also they would still be referring to the same constitution.

Stop trolling me.
Feb 29 2012 7:20PM
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I would, at the state level, referring to the same constitution I would at the federal.
Feb 29 2012 7:21PM
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Amadeus.
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please keep posting

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Feb 29 2012 7:23PM
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Bill.Nye
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Congress has the power of the purse.
Feb 29 2012 7:27PM
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Bill.Nye
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No, I quit. I think I've made a pretty extensive case for some of the reasons I don't support him. There comes a time to just step back.
Feb 29 2012 7:29PM
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You don't like him because you believe with his election all of a sudden states will be able to say ban homosexuality because the same basis for which they are protected on the federal level for some reason would not apply.
Feb 29 2012 7:35PM
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