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Moment pb&j vs. on3p jeronimo vs. jeffery

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NCgaron
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i  live on the east coast and i ski vt. and nh. i am 6 foot 170lbs. i ski 40% park 60% trees and off piste wich one of these skis would be the best for me and in what size. i am thinking the moments but not sure yet anyone know  the weight difference between them +k for helpful responces

Feb 25 2012 11:13PM
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Just_Send_It
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personally i havent rode the pb and j but i have friends who have and ive heard nothing but great things. i do own 2012 night trains and they rock everywhere pow, park, groomers etc.. id say grab some moments, super solid skis
Feb 25 2012 11:26PM
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hokkanee
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The Jmo probably makes the most sense for you if you ski only east coast stuff. It's a perfect east coast all mountain ski.
Feb 25 2012 11:36PM
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NCgaron
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thanks for the input jmo and pb and j are now my two choices
Feb 25 2012 11:52PM
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Banane.
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Well, bases on what I see here. The on3p are bombproof and fun to ride, im buying a pair of caylor next season. I saw some durability problem whit moment, some love them and others don't like them. Blister gear made a review in both of those ski. http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2nd-look-o3p-jeronimo and http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2011-2012-moment-pbj-188cm-2
Feb 26 2012 12:07AM
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Banane.
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http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2nd-look-on3p-jeronimo
Feb 26 2012 12:20AM
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Parks.
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Moment = kinda shitty durability
Feb 26 2012 1:41AM
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Stose
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this.
Feb 26 2012 1:48AM
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griz_lee
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im not really sure what skis you had. But as far as im concerned its my job to break their skis and I havnt broken many. and most of them hold up to as much abuse as i can dish out. never had a single delam and no major edge rip outs.
Feb 26 2012 2:03AM
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Big_Tuna
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I would say you should go with the j-mos I love mine so much, they are tons of fun in the powder and park for sure, I named mine the crud killers too cause I have never had such a stable ski in the crud, they are really just a great ski in general, and for durability I haven't had a ski compare to it either, I've truly been very rough on mine and skied through some big rock fields and there wasn't any damage to the edges, only a few scrapes on the bases
Feb 26 2012 2:33PM
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Parks.
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Top sheets are complete shit and they chip really easy
Feb 26 2012 3:34PM
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NCgaron
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also concidering the shogun and the banger 100 for next year
Feb 26 2012 3:54PM
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lukewalnuts
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Feb 26 2012 4:25PM
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.AR6rider.
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Loovvveee my J-Mos. Perfect do-it-all ski for the Midwest/East Coast.
Feb 26 2012 4:37PM
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NCgaron
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also is the amplid rockwell durable a have heard nothing but good things but nothing on durability? anyone
Feb 26 2012 4:59PM
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ThaLorax
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wtf are you talking about? they've made their name off of making bombproof skis.
Feb 26 2012 5:10PM
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Stose
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wtf are you talking about? they are notorious for having the top sheet rip off in a matter of days, and for snapping
Feb 26 2012 5:19PM
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Big_Tuna
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nevermind on the durability of on3p they've already delammed on 13 days of skiing
Feb 26 2012 5:58PM
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ThaLorax
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maybe it's their bases that i'm thinking of?
Feb 26 2012 6:19PM
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Backyard.Skier
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wrong, my donner parties are the shit. every ski is going to have top sheet chipping and mine have not had any more or less damage then any other ski I've ever owned.
Feb 26 2012 6:28PM
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NCgaron
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really liking the amolid stuff has anyone heard if they are good or not?
Feb 26 2012 8:34PM
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Parks.
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absoluley not
Feb 26 2012 11:16PM
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NCgaron
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meant amplid typo.
Feb 26 2012 11:52PM
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SKI.ING
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What happened here?
Feb 27 2012 12:11AM
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Caveman.
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What happened? Have you checked to see if they are covered by warranty? http://www.on3pskis.com/warranty/
Feb 27 2012 1:27AM
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Dr0ck
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Could we not turn this into a debate on moment's durability and return to topic. I am very interested as well.
Feb 28 2012 10:15AM
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NCgaron
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Feb 28 2012 8:37PM
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phishfood
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i've got a pair of 188s centermounted w/ FKS 14s and skied on them six or eight times now. my plan is to use them for east coast pow and spring slushy park. they're pretty stiff, so they'll kick you around if you're not paying attention in bumps and varied terrain. however, if you stay centered, they rip pretty much everything. my edges are a little duller now, but they can still absolutely lay out carves (as long as you're not on straight ice), despite them being about twice as rockered in the tip as i thought they'd be. finally got to ski them in 6/8 inches of chopped up pow at sugarloaf yesterday and they were a lot of fun...the tip rocker really shines in those conditions. as for park, they're not quite as easy to throw around on rails as my volkl walls are, but i haven't not been able to do any tricks with them. great on big jumps. once we have soft, slushy park conditions in the spring, i can't think of a better ski for cutting through rutted landings and such. they should be a lot of fun then. check out my profile for a shot of some urban with them.
Feb 28 2012 11:57PM
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Stose
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you forgot to mention which skis you're talking about
Feb 28 2012 11:59PM
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Dr0ck
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I'd guess PBJ since that's the only one of this group that comes in a 188
Feb 29 2012 12:01AM
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TWoods
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Our team can't even go through skis that fast - likely a defect somewhere in the materials. Check the warranty page, they are likely covered, and you'll be able to get some new skis out of it.
Feb 29 2012 5:25AM
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ThaLorax
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i think it's pretty obvious, especially i fyou check his profile like he said to that he's talking about hte PBJs
Feb 29 2012 12:20PM
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PappaG
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188cm PB&J.

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Anyone who says Moment doesn't have high quality durability either rides rails like Charlie Sheen in a month-long binge or doesn't know how to land airs properly. Going back 5 years now on 11 different pairs, the only problem I ever had was slight topsheet chipping but this is easily corrected with a razor blade and some rough to smooth down where the topsheet meets the edge of the ski.

But in the end, you can't go wrong with any offering from Moment or ON3P (which Moment helped press skis back in the day and continues to help with some production here and there from what I understand).
Feb 29 2012 12:59PM
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iggyskier
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Just for clarity, ON3P never had any help from Moment as far as actually building skis goes, ON3P has always done that 100% on our own. The help Moment generously provided us with has been material supply:
1) Printing sub prints for about 30 topsheets when my printer in WA had some equipment issues back in 2008 when I will still building my garage. Those were then sent to WA to be sublimated on blank top material.
2) Allowing us to add our 09/10 (1st year) VDS order to their order to save on shipping.
3) Printing ~25 pairs of Grizzlycorn bases for 10/11.

The Moment guys are great guys and have always been there to help if need be.

As fot the skis, I think you will probably be happy with whatever you choose. The PB&J and Jmo are definitely more similar than the Jeffrey, which I consider a fairly different ski just due to the width and turning radius.





Feb 29 2012 1:12PM
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PappaG
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Thanks for the clarification... didn't mean to be misleading.



Here's a recent review on the PB&J:
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/239810-How-big-does-a-powder-ski-really-need-to-be-Review-and-comparison-Moment-PB-amp-J-182
Feb 29 2012 1:29PM
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iggyskier
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No worries at all. Just figured I would clarify.
Feb 29 2012 1:35PM
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belden...
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BULL FUCKING SHIT!

They might be chipping but there no way you ski is doing this Click for larger image

On3p's are pretty dope their edges and bases are bomb proof but the topsheets do chip a bit (somehow mine chipped in the middle)
Feb 29 2012 1:53PM
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iggyskier
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No need to get mad. I've talked to the person who posted that and the damage he was talking about actually appeared impact damage that caused a small section of the topsheet to come up (this is thru photos, I cannot tell with absolute certainty without seeing the skis in person). Obviously impact is not something covered under warranty but luckily the damage is pretty minimal and about a five minute fix with a bit of epoxy and a c-clamp.
Feb 29 2012 2:24PM
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ThaLorax
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That was really cool of them to help you guys out like that. I laughed at the Grizzlycorn printing though.
Feb 29 2012 3:36PM
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Big_Tuna
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yeah no its all good now, easy fix only thing is that its only a little suspect on how it happened cause I've babied those beauties like no other, still haven't even taken them into the park, so I'm stilled stumped on when this big impact happened but i guess it did.
Mar 6 2012 6:16PM
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Shifties4Dayz
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i have last year's jmos, and ive never ridden the other 2. but all i have to say is the jmos are hands down the best ski ive ever owned or rode. go on3p and youll never get another brand again
Mar 6 2012 7:43PM
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