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Tramp Rodeo Help.....(free giveaway involved)

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wootang
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Yes I have used the search bar. Yes I know there are cults for this. Yes I have tried EVERY FUCKING TIP I HAVE EVER FOUND ON HERE. I have punched the midget, dropped the shoulder, grabbed Japan, rolled over the table, and just about every other fucking thing I have read and I STILL CANT RODEO ON A TRAMP. I can front, back, misty, underflip, and even cork. I can't fucking rodeo. I'm pissed, disillusioned, disheartened, and generally upset. Somebody please tell me something new. 

+k AND....if your tip is the one that finally makes the rotation make sense, I will ship you a ski movie of your choice (must be current year or recent enough that I can find it) I am dead serious...please help.
Feb 24 2012 12:00PM
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bschott19
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have you tried kicking your legs at the corner of the tramp/bringing them up to where your shoulder is while looking over your shoulder?
Feb 24 2012 12:01PM
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Lucas
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Throw a Lincoln...lean back...spin
Feb 24 2012 12:10PM
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wootang
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Ok taking notes...will report back on progress.
Feb 24 2012 12:13PM
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icon1234
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Imagine putting a hand up near the side of head in kicking range. Simply try to kick their hand and the rotation should come around.
Feb 24 2012 12:16PM
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Jeffmnicholas
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for whatever reason i could never get a rodeo on a tramp, then i started throwing them off of diving boards and when i tried again on the tramp they came around fine, idk if that helps in any way but it worked for me
Feb 24 2012 12:18PM
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Caspaaa
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throw a lincoln loop and grab japan

imagine looking at yourself doing a lincoln loop, face to face. if your head goes clockwise then you should grab japan with your left hand, if your head turns counter-clockwise then you should grab japan with your right hand.

basically do a lincoln loop and use whichever arm is closest to the ground right after you initiate the lincoln to grap japan, and look slightly over your opposite shoulder.

i've also been able to rodeo just by attempting to spin while in a seated position. try to end up in a seated position as if you were sitting on the ground and touching your toes, that sometimes works.

use the same shoulder dip as your corks just don't spin around like you do in a cork.



the real way I learned to was by grabbing mute and doing lincolns. if you can rodeo on skis then i'm telling you right now, rodeos on skis vs trampoline are completely different feeling so you may have the rodeos just not know it yet. it's difficult to rodeo perfectly on a trampoline.
Feb 24 2012 12:18PM
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Caspaaa
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sorry about the double post but this too

hit the pool, practice running down the diving board, taking an initial jump, rotating 90 degrees, landing back on the diving board and then jumping into the pool.

do this a bunch, then do lincolns off the diving board (flipping, of course, away from the board haha). the push to achieve distance off the board will help you do rodeos, so after you've got lincolns off a diving board down try a rodeo off the diving board then bring it to the tramp.
Feb 24 2012 12:21PM
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aaron@summit
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Jump forward and throw it
Feb 24 2012 1:56PM
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Spicy.Cat
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I use the net as a guide. I try to get my feet level to the net and try to keep my legs equal to the net as long as I can to get more styley rodeos. Try to do the net method and then dip your shoulder to bring the rotation around
Feb 24 2012 2:02PM
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fruitstick
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Therads... wana see if he finally gets it
Feb 24 2012 2:03PM
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steezeforeign
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they have always told me that when you do a rodeo correctly u land a little more back, like when u do a backflip,
Feb 24 2012 2:05PM
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GKO
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backflip and look over shoulder
Feb 24 2012 2:27PM
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.skiwi.
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Have the same body posistion that you would if you were throwing a backie. Drop the shoulder and when you jump, swing your legs to the side as much as possible. Watch your legs swing around and then spot the landing. Hope this helps!
Feb 24 2012 2:41PM
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Nikkekoivisto
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Step By Step:
1 - make sure your comfortable with backflip (i suppose you are)
2 -being able to do sideflips are important, because thats pretty close how you set the rotation for rodeos, sideflip and more spin.
3 -lets assume you can do both these tricks. now you get good bounce. and when your ready, you start rotating your shoulder to north-west/north-south. Samy way as you would tackle somebody in american football under arms in the chest. the rodeo is pretty mcuh same. Good pop, rotate shoulders and head to side and let the spin come itself.

Basically you must get it how to do it on urself, we can tell you advices but you still have to do the rotation yourself.
Heres video for close enoough rodeo 5 by me.

Part 1:20

Feb 24 2012 2:51PM
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412.
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Throw a back flip, then throw your arm as soon after as possible after throwing the back.
Feb 24 2012 2:51PM
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wootang
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OK update: Got a quick session in and made some SERIOUS improvements. Thanks guys!

So I have found that thinking about it more like a lincoln and less like a backie is helping a lot. If I really boost it and throw a lincoln/backie combo and reach hard for the japan I can get it to come around almost right. The issue now is that I am setting too much flip and not enough spin and I am traveling back and to the right a lot. In other words I am standing in the middle of the tramp when I throw and landing in the back right corner.

That said, the rotation is making a lot more sense. Does anyone have an opinion on whether its easier or harder on snow? I am thinking I should probably just throw one tomorrow off a jump.....

+k to everyone! Thanks guys. So far the lincoln comparison is in the lead!
Feb 24 2012 3:00PM
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Nikkekoivisto
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Attempting it on snow is little bit harder, since you are moving forward constantly and you have much ore weight on you.
But the rotaion is set just like on trampoline. if you can do it on tramp, should be no big deal doing it on snow. Just need to huck little harder on snow. Gl and hope you learn new trick! =)
Feb 24 2012 3:03PM
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Wackowells
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Just spin your legs around the sky if that makes any scents, that how i learnt.
Feb 24 2012 3:37PM
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jamodeo
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spin 90 backflip 90 then once you get it down flatten it out
Feb 24 2012 3:43PM
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jimmer
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fucking autoplay...
Feb 24 2012 4:48PM
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bnewbs6
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I set for a flatspin. Grab japan. and then 180 out of it
Feb 24 2012 5:09PM
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KJacks
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i think about my knees coming around my shoulder it sets more of a flatspin, but its easier to flat then rodeo on trampolines, atleast for me!
Feb 24 2012 5:24PM
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skibeest
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I just learned rodeos yesterday before it snowed... finally.
What helped me was being able to lincoln. Basically, your upper body (head chest shoulders) all look at the sky to start the spin. Then, your lower body sets the lincoln. If you grab your feet, you will come around to 540 no problem at all. Just don't rush to spot your landing.
Hope this helps
Feb 24 2012 5:28PM
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ben_jammin
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try doing like a backfilp but throw your legs out to the side when you do it if that makes any sense and drop your opposite shoulder while doing this
Feb 24 2012 6:25PM
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Lucas
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Do I win?
Feb 24 2012 11:12PM
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Grilledsteeze212
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go in like you are going to throw a Lincoln loop but as you set it dont throw your arm and head down directly to your side throw it more backwards with your shoulder and just look for it, it will all come around.
Feb 25 2012 11:32AM
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Lucas
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Did op get it?
Feb 26 2012 7:48PM
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CalebT
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Threads, want to see what happens!
Feb 26 2012 8:30PM
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Forcillo
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How I was taught is to imagine that there is someone standing directly to your right ( or left, which ever way you spin) and try to bring your legs up to kick them in the jaw with your toes. After that just look over your trailing shoulder and spot the landing. It may not come around to begin with, so when you get frustrated, imagine that the imaginary person you're kicking is a real asshole. Kick them harder
Feb 26 2012 8:59PM
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H-Slice
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do backflips with a japan grab when ur comfy doing that look directly back over your shoulder rather then straight back.. pretty easy thats how i learned
Feb 26 2012 11:22PM
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THURSTY
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wait a second dmafter you come of the tramp to start your rotation also dont spin until your looking at the roof
Feb 27 2012 7:07AM
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Kjell
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If you're still trying and haven't got it here's how I learnt, some parts sound retarded I know but it worked for me and I was as desperate as you:

First I stood with my back to my bed and tried to spin onto the bed, basically jump backwards and do a 360 plus landing about 0.5m (about 20 inches) higher than I started. 

When I could do this effortlessly I jumped up and did the same thing with a tuck.

Following this I tried jumping onto the bed tucking and turning 90º then landing on my back sideways in relation to my takeoff, a tiny spin but that is honestly what I did.

After that I did the same jump but pushed a little harder everytime until I managed to put it to my knees facing the forwards again.

Then I went on my trampoline and did exactly the same thing; spinning 90º tucking tight and getting further and further around everytime.  After having done this many many times I videoed one of the flips and after watching shat my pants realising I had finally learnt to do a rodeo! 

Once I had the simple movement I put a japan grab in and it sounds stupid but it really makes a difference in the balance and feel of the trick, with a japan it feels soooo much cooler!

If you don't quite understand what I mean I could throw together a little video on it showing my method.

I hope this helps, I know how incedibly frustrating learning this can be!
Feb 27 2012 8:00AM
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SKIINGISEASY
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someone should post a video of them doin a rodeo on a tramp, it would give OP some help for sure.
Feb 27 2012 9:43AM
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wootang
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Nice! As silly as it sounds, this really worked. I was thinking of it a backflip  with my feet going to the left of my head. When I started thinking of it as a lincoln with my head going back, it came around perfect. First attempt on snow this weekend was not as successful, but the cast fits into my mitten so I'm good to go!

So I feel we have a two way tie for the win...Lucas and Miles...PM me your movie selections and addresses. Good shit guys I appreciate the help! FINALLY figuring out this damn rotation.


Feb 27 2012 12:59PM
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Jeffmnicholas
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damn sorry to hear that you got hurt, whatd you injure, and how long are you in a cast for?
Feb 27 2012 3:28PM
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Steezy_Butter
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sorry you got hurt but at least you figured it out
Feb 27 2012 6:55PM
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wootang
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Yeah I got them down pretty well on the tramp, but when I took it to snow I threw forward too much and didn't really set very well. I spotted my landing, but unfortunately it was about 18 inches from my face when I did. Head bounced...put a hand down...slight wrist fracture....friends laughed at me....nothing serious. Good times!
Feb 27 2012 7:07PM
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Gub97
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RHJRH5Ql7U
Feb 27 2012 7:26PM
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BlackCupid
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fuck autoplay
Feb 27 2012 7:27PM
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