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Ganja charges in Utah Advice needed ~! Park city Area

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willysworld
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Soo I got pulled over for a routine Traffic stop in Park City utah, and they searched my car and found about 3 to 4 grams of weed and my papers.

I got locked up for 5 hours and then my friend bailed me out for 1000$.

now ive never been busted for weed or for anything, and Im facing 2 charges in Summit county one for marijuana posession ( small amount ) and drug pariphinalia ie .,. some fucking papers.

Can any one from Utah or better yet park city give me some insight into what the punishment might be?

should I get a lawyer ? and what are teh judges like in summit county?

Thank you so much any advice or info is much appreciated.

Jah bless!

Feb 18 2012 11:58AM
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Amadeus.
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if you consented to the search there is nothing you can do (never consent to searches). IF they saw weed in your care then they had probable caused and there is nothing you can do either. However, If they just smelled weed that might not be probable cause in your state, or if they just had a suspicion and searched you car without your consent that is definitely not probable cause and your case should be thrown out.
Feb 20 2012 11:21PM
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crooks*
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YESSSSS ahahaha
Feb 20 2012 11:40PM
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californiagrown
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yeah they do, and if the lighter has any trace of bud on it(resin, pollen etc.), it can be paraphenalia.

regardless, you arent doing any time, and its not gonna be a felony. no real long term consequences.
Feb 21 2012 12:25AM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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I come to seek NS advice/experience too. Last night i was with my friend just chill in in my car he was rolling weed and we were both fairly tipsy and a cop rolls up breathalizes us finds the little amount of weed and my keys weren't in the ignition so I'm pretty sure I'm facing underage drinking and possession. and i know i should get a lawyer and stuff but does anyone know what I'm facing? i hope not license suspension. its my first offense
Aug 13 2012 1:57PM
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howlongcanausern
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get a lawyer.
Aug 13 2012 2:00PM
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MNS
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Yup. Kiwis are. Fucking--you're a tool. Get off ns. There are members on here that are very helpful, mechanics, premed, etc
Aug 13 2012 2:06PM
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Bodhisattva_
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Soo last night I got arrested for whatever they call It when a Minor is drunk in public, obstruction of justice, and possesion (a pot brownie) in Pullman, Washington. Any ideas on what I'm gonna face???
Aug 13 2012 2:12PM
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howlongcanausern
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I got an MIP/Possesion of MJ/Paraphenalia charge in washingotn state....so i know what it's like.

you're going to end up paying ~$1000 and have to do a drug/alcohol evaluation. you will be drug tested. get a lawyer.

most likely won't do jail time but you will get probation, your license probably won't be taken away.
Aug 13 2012 2:15PM
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grown-ninja
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when through the same shit in ny about 10 months ago, we were at a bar on a Wednesday night like we do every Wednesday night listen to a jam/rock band instead of walking around the city like we always do, we decided to light a little j in my car, as soon as we get out 10 cops and at least 5 cars come flying out of no where and bust us, after being threatened and lied to and thrown around by the cops (I'm not going to bitch since we were being stupid for doing in a parking lot in the first place, and i wouldn't expect anything less from cops)  we were brought in to jail for like 8 hours.

We were really cool with the cops after, since we were supper stoned we were asking for the food they give inmates....etc so they all got a laugh out of it, we got them to weigh the 8th we had in my car with a scale they recently took from a dealer to see if the guy we got gave us a good deal ...(the 8th was never in the police report either meaning they just pocketed it btw). 

We were out on 100$ bail each, none of us could afford a lawyer so we went the OG way with a public defender.  12 month ACD is what we got (apparently the average is 6 months if its not dropped) if we dont get in trouble for the next 12 months its a peraban from our records.  

Cops also told us if it was a busier night they would have let us go with a warning-its all luck of the draw/

Sparknotes:
Moral of the story, dont do stupid shit in public, cops are abusive assholes, some are ok once they have you booked as long as you are nice, if you can afford a lawyer you will get off with less, if not use the public defender-you will most likely get an ACD  but still get off if you have no prior convictions.
Aug 13 2012 2:27PM
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grown-ninja
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you're very naive man, cops can search you/your car whenever however they want-unless you get jonny cochran to rise from the dead illegal search and seasure (4th amendment) will never hold true in ct.
Aug 13 2012 2:29PM
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Utard
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I'm not sure whether that supreme court ruling extends to vehicles though. The law generally protects private residences far more extensively than personal vehicles. If I'm not mistaken, that ruling pertained to private residences so I'm not sure whether or not it would protect against vehicular searches.
Aug 13 2012 2:34PM
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beezey
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I live in Park city and this is the reason I'm safe and never get pulled over.
Aug 13 2012 3:04PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Aug 13 2012 3:07PM
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Sneaky_Aziz
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Aug 13 2012 3:18PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Aug 13 2012 3:26PM
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EmperorKuzco
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that's a fucking joke. decriminalizing marijuana has to happen. In Mass you dont get shit for anything under an O.

unless the weed was out it was only 3/4 grams he would not have smelled it. therefore you should have not let him search.
Aug 13 2012 3:35PM
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TechnoPotamus
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thank you counselor, it's a good thing we have a practicing lawyer to weight in on these things
Aug 13 2012 4:05PM
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Hamster.
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One small suggestion maybe, is have one person say "it's mine", because if you play the, "OH SHIT what is that game" everyones gonna get nailed with the same charges, one person can take the blame, I mean kinda terrible if you think about it, but just an idea. Happened when a couple of my friends and I got caught with a few grams and two pipes.
Aug 13 2012 4:08PM
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BlackCupid
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You're looking at 5 years 6 months max prison time, and the prosecution is almost definitely going to seek the maximum. A public defender will not defend you have as well as a private attorney. With a private attorney you should be able to get off with only probation. If you stick with a public defender, you're probably looking at jail time and a fine.

From what I can tell, it sounds like it's dubious whether or not the cops actually had probable cause to search your car. That'll work to your advantage. Do not, however, discuss your arrest with anybody other than your attorney.
Aug 13 2012 4:25PM
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roddy116
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had to sorry...
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yah yah im a dick i dont really care
Aug 13 2012 4:31PM
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Master_Debater
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This. Also I don't understand why noone films the police.. Your fully allowed to and if they mess up at any point legally and you get it on video your off the hook.
Aug 13 2012 5:39PM
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Petey.
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This. Don't consent to searches
Aug 13 2012 5:52PM
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Bill.Nye
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America, freest nation on Earth, unless you want to smoke weed.
Aug 13 2012 5:58PM
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grown-ninja
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nope in most places its 100% againt the law to film cops
Aug 13 2012 6:42PM
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GayWolf420
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Hahaha Was it summit county or PC Police? Either way, you're probably fucked. They throw the book at you for weed up here because of people trafficking it east on the interstate.
Aug 13 2012 9:14PM
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beezey
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Why did you get pulled over? I mean if you have weed on you you should be smart enough to bay all road laws or its essentially your fault.
Aug 13 2012 9:31PM
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Lucas
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if the cop smells weed he has every right to search the car, no consent needed. Get learned.
Aug 13 2012 9:44PM
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beezey
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Ya i see people pulled over 24/7 my boyfriend I never even take the risk of drinking and driving. Utah sucks for things like that
Aug 13 2012 9:48PM
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EmperorKuzco
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if you have an iphone or something you can just set it down to get the audi. dont make it obvious.
Aug 13 2012 9:55PM
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Sleepercell
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No need to scare OP. Seriously I doubt he will get jail. At least he didn't get a DUI. He will most likely get a fine. My friend got caught for doing graffiti and they gave him a chance at paying a 2k fine and no jail time, or 6 months in the pen and $1,000 fine plus a felony record. I know that these are not the same but but what he did looked like it was going to be a felony and he got a lawyer. GET A LAWYER and don't trip out. 

I have had friends get pulled over with weed and paraphernalia. The most trouble that one of my friends got into was a felony for intent to distribute. He had over an ounce. Even though he wasn't selling weed he had enough for them to charge him with that.
Aug 13 2012 9:56PM
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beezey
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If i get pulled over I have already decided that i am going to film it because of how bad the cops are in my current town McCall, Idaho (come on vacation, leave on probation) and also Park City because when you get pulled over if you don't know how to handle things you should just pull down your pants, bend over, and just prepare to be fucked cause they goin in dry
Aug 13 2012 9:57PM
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KillaSteeze
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come to canada, ive seen cops search peoples bags and find multiple bottles of booze and just pour it out and then leave, cops are so chill here, like they come to partys and tell us to be safe then leave
Aug 13 2012 10:33PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Came here to post about readying your anus.
Aug 13 2012 10:42PM
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EmperorKuzco
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yes it works hahaha trust me. A cop pulled my friend over in nh and there was weed and being a nh state trooper he was a dick and unlawfully searched and seized the car, he filmed it . and afterwards he told him that he had filmed the whole thing and he would see him in court. got off with nothing.
Aug 13 2012 10:42PM
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49566738265
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Almost everything you have said about the law is incorrect. This is basic law 101, read it and know it or make your ignorance less apparent.
Aug 13 2012 10:50PM
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accualyisdolan
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stop slandering summit county
utah haha
Aug 13 2012 11:00PM
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Sleepercell
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OP what is the outlook?

Here is some advice for those of you that do burn herb.




Aug 18 2012 12:15AM
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Troy.
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I'm crying. This is too fucking accurate.
Aug 18 2012 12:54AM
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Master_Debater
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Not in the states... If they are on duty its completely legal, If the cop isn't doing anything wrong why should he mind anyway?
Aug 18 2012 2:38AM
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Sleepercell
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some people have been arrested for filming police. The appeals court ruled it is our first amendment right to be able to film in public. So its against the constitution if you are arrested for filming a police officer.

I was reading a story a while back where a guy had a go pro mount on his helmet and an off duty officer hopped out of his car and pulled his gun and ran at the guy for driving his motorcycle recklessly. The guy thought he was going to get shot and robbed of his bike but it ended up being an officer who tackled him down. He then uploaded the video and had his house raided and was arrested right then and there for filming the off duty officer. Shit like that is so wack.
Aug 18 2012 2:51AM
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