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Learning Flat 5s?

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[evan]
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Title says it all.

I'm out in Steamboat, CO for the week, and everything is really nice, especially the jumps. So of course, i want to learn a new flip, i can back and front, but this will be my first invert which I consider as legitimate.

I've thought about what kind of jump to try it on, and i decided im going to use the her in the maverick park if anybody from Steamboat reads this. I'd say its about a 10ft gap, but if you get the right amount of speed, you're probably going like 15 ft solid.

I decided i'd throw it like this:



Now i want to know if anybody has any tips? Is that an appropriate jump size? Should i be aware of anything? it just snowed today so the landings should be nice and soft which is perfect.

Help me out guys!
Feb 13 2012 11:42PM
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PJS.
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wait, isn't that a rodeo?

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nevertheless, whatever the hell this is, I wanna learn it soon too. threads.
Feb 13 2012 11:45PM
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Dr.Gonzo
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less inverted than a rodeo, i think it looks more stylish, thats just like my opinion though
Feb 13 2012 11:46PM
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PKchu
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You should probably go for it off a bigger jump. 10 feet is pretty small, I say go for 20 at the least. And when you set the flat, I have figured out it makes my flatspin more flat when I spot the jump behind me and then look for my landing. Also, the 540 comes around naturally, you just want a little more time to get it around so that's why I suggest choosing a bigger jump.
Feb 13 2012 11:48PM
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[evan]
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How poppy do you recommend the jump to be? obviously the jump is that video is more step down style, but the jumps they have built are a little steep in the takeoff area, would that be alright, or am i going to get bucked up?
Feb 13 2012 11:51PM
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PKchu
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I learned my flatspins on jumps with basically no lip, but after doing some on some really poppy, lippy jumps, the rotation comes much easier and faster. I would recommend doing it off of a poppy jump for sure, just not too poppy. The ones you are talking about seem okay.
Feb 13 2012 11:57PM
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[evan]
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alright that sounds pretty good to me, thanks for the advice man. definatly got my confidence level up. ill go to bed on a good note and sleep on it.

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Feb 14 2012 12:04AM
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[evan]
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Got it!

Didn't quite pull the 5 around as clean as I wouldve liked, but the flat 3 was clean so i was happy with it.


Feb 15 2012 11:29PM
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PKchu
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Congratz man.
Feb 15 2012 11:41PM
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Saintlysteeze
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congrats man, I want to try one when Im at summer camp or snowflex. Cant do it now cause I broke My arm. How many tries did it take? and it looks like if you had a little more air, you probably could of pulled around the 5.
Feb 15 2012 11:45PM
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rareison
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Good job Evan
Feb 15 2012 11:52PM
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-KYLE-
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keep that shoulder dropped a little longer and look for the landing and 5 will come right around, props dude!
Feb 15 2012 11:53PM
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[evan]
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I technically landed it my 6th try, but it was sketchy so I kept going. I landed it again my 10th try or so, but didnt get it on video. Then my 11th try was the flat 3 and my 12th was the 5.

Didn't hurt at all when i fell though
Feb 16 2012 12:14AM
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PattyC
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Last time I was up there you had hall into that jump so hard, did they fix that
Feb 16 2012 12:25AM
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PKchu
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Thats the best thing about park after a snowy day. Nothing hurts, except for rails.
Feb 16 2012 12:26AM
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[evan]
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To a degree, first jump is super slow, but you have to go backseat down the landing and run-in into the 2nd jump to clear it, then I took one carve and it gave me decent height.

But you always have to bomb into step-up/step-over jumps so its not really that difficult.
Feb 16 2012 12:39AM
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PattyC
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they made it so that the jump dosnt get you over the step upuless you go really fast into it the first time i tried to spin it i bounced off the nuckle hah
Feb 16 2012 9:48AM
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[evan]
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I found that if you land like 5-10 ft past the knuckle of the second jump, you generate more speed than if you were to just outright boost the shit out of it and land like 25 ft past the knuckle in the would be "sweet spot"
Feb 16 2012 10:50AM
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TNORTS
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congrats that was so sick. definitely trying these next time I get up to vermont and hit some real jumps
Feb 16 2012 11:24AM
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PattyC
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Sweet I'm pumped to get up there this weekend
Feb 16 2012 11:46AM
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