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Teen gets life in prison for killing 9 others.

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GayWolf420
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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/08/10351097-teen-gets-life-for-strangling-stabbing-girl-9-
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Fucked up shit, man.

Inb4 flamewar about the judicial syst....Actually, Why the fuck not?
Feb 8 2012 6:20PM
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SpaghettiWizard
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QUE THE FUCK
Feb 8 2012 9:05PM
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hot.pocket
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Feb 8 2012 9:06PM
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alvy.
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fuck all that psychiatric bullshit. All that does is waste the government's money and resources and we are in debt enough. She should be put to death. End of story.
Feb 8 2012 10:33PM
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Logey.
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I'm glad some people agree with me
Feb 8 2012 10:37PM
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Deluge
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fucked up.
Feb 8 2012 10:40PM
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charmander
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i say hang er
Feb 8 2012 10:40PM
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Whifazoo
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solid 7
Feb 8 2012 10:41PM
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las.
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Sure is amurica in here
Feb 8 2012 10:51PM
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[hamnuts]
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God this disgusts me
Feb 8 2012 10:57PM
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extravert
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I hate how she apologizes to the family "oh, you understand, I wanted to see what it felt like, sorry"

also she has crazy eyes, people shouldv known
Feb 8 2012 10:58PM
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saskskierftw
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She wanted to know how it feels to kill someone... WTF.
Feb 8 2012 10:59PM
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yojimbo
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that bitch looks fucked.
Feb 8 2012 11:00PM
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Aenigma
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You guys know that capital punishment costs significantly more than life in prison, right? Not to delve into that rabbit hole, or putting a price on someone's life, but.....yeah.

I'm not sure how I feel about this one, I think I'd have to know a lot more than there is in that article to really have an opinion that meant something.
Feb 8 2012 11:01PM
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roddy116
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she obviously knew what she was doing, but her judgement was probably all zonked out... she should still be slammed for it though
Feb 8 2012 11:14PM
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Clark_Griswold
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What........the fuck is right. this girl is straight nuts and deserves every second in prison she gets if not worse IMO
Feb 8 2012 11:17PM
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Joebin
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I think that the government should make a giant lava pit, maybe in Hawaii somewhere to really set the mood, where they take people who commit crimes like this. Then they walk around said pit, preferably a volcanic mountain, and read aloud the crime of the defendant. Then they go up to each person with a stick named something like "Rita" or "Lauretta", something really dike-ish, with a badass rupy at one end and whack the people in the face as they stand with their heels on the edge of the pit. If they fall, then they die a horrible lava death (or awesome depending on how you look at it), if they survive then they get sentenced to life in prison.
Feb 8 2012 11:26PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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I don't know what it costs to use captial punishment but I read that in California it costs about 47,000 a year for inmates in prison. Now if she does life which she better if she gets parole i hope someone finds her on the outside and gets her. If she gets life say she lives to 60 which is really young. thats 40 years so 40 * 47000, 1, 880000. I can't really see it costing more then 20grand to kill someone but I dunno I could be wrong. The way I see it she should be shot in the stomache and left in a field to rot bullets arn't that expensive
Feb 8 2012 11:32PM
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roddy116
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haha what?
Feb 8 2012 11:34PM
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Aenigma
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Wow.

I don't know what to say.
Feb 8 2012 11:44PM
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blackmamba.
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it's situations like these that im in favor of capital punishment. why should this psycho be allowed to live (albeit in prison) while the victim's family suffers? i'm sure the notion that this batshit crazy chick is still alive is going to fuck with them for the rest their lives. i mean, there's no way she'll ever be a contributing factor in society and solidarity confinement isn't going to turn back time. yeah, yeah, there's that human rights bs, her questionable mental state and the so-called costs of lethal injection. at the end of the day, what human rights to the innocent women and children of the middle east and a lawyer's sole purpose is to defend his or her client; therefore play the insanity card. screw the costs. clearly the special interests of the prison fucks are at play here. screw this bitch. "i wanted to try it" or whatever the fuck she said. c'mon man that's downright fucked. /rant
Feb 8 2012 11:52PM
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Dr0ck
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She is a dangerous psychotic person, at this point prison is there just to remove her from the general public. I would bet serious money that she has some sociopathic disorder that completely blocks empathy or a genuinely deformed amigdala (spelled right?) The fact that she enjoyed it would point to these. She needs help but I doubt that she could even appreciate the feeling of love or ever learn to do more than imitate it. Either prison or a mental institution is required.

She killed a person, it doesn't matter what the circumstances(BTW she was about 15 at the time). She killed a person (the nine year old) that person will never be able to enjoy anything or experience anything or fulfill the potential they might've had.


Feb 8 2012 11:55PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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Just wondering about your point that capital punishment costs more then life in prison. Honestly I do think they should be kept on death rowe for several years to think about what they've done give time for new evidence in the case in case they were wrongfully convicted ex, forced to confess. But honestly I don't care if your crazy you killed someon. in cold blood. The 9 year old had done nothing to her, she was a harmless little girl who now will never get the chance to live a life. Her parents will be tramatized for the rest of theres, all the kids that we're at the dance with her. Imagine what that must feel like. She has done two much to ever be forgiven/given another chance.
Feb 9 2012 12:05AM
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Steve-Brown
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she def needs to be put in care with that prison.
she is crazy.
Feb 9 2012 1:02AM
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DR.SHRED
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Deserves more than life in prison, I don't care what the fuck she's on that just isn't right
Feb 9 2012 2:47AM
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84891jnf92048
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for capital punishment, there is an automatic appeal to the court ruling, and usually. any more after that. This costs hundreds of thousands of dollars in the judicial system, moving up to higher courts, constantly getting appealed. Then the cost of in inmate on death row is very high, and he or she does not get killed there right away, but instead stays there both throughout he appeal process and long after. Capital punishment is more expensive than a life sentence.
Feb 9 2012 6:52AM
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Puzzled
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this, or this thread is just full of 12 years old. Life sentence is way out of proportion here.
Feb 9 2012 6:58AM
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Look
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Something is definately wrong with her. But there could have been other problems too like parents and issues like that. She can't undo what she did and I believe the life sentence was suitable. With someone saying they enjoyed killing a nine year old girl somethings missing...
Feb 9 2012 7:42AM
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derbski
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ITT: a bunch of 15 year olds who don't yet understand just how stupid and unstable their 15 year old peers are.

This chick was clearly nuts, she was on anti-depressants and had tried to kill herself. Obviously, she did not have that firm of a grasp on the concept of death. I disagree with the death penalty in general, it is a waste of money for the sole purpose of vengeance, nobody is any safer from any criminal that has been injected. But in this case in particular, I can't understand where you people saying she should be killed are even coming from.

I agree completely with the court decision, because they could not give her a 25 year sentence where she gets out no matter what. After growing up, getting mental therapy, and reflecting on what she did for a handful of decades in the slammer, she may very well be able to re-enter society. If she stays a psycho with no regard for life, then leave her in jail to rot. Nothing is gained by killing her.
Feb 9 2012 8:03AM
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jeR.
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totally agree. getting this bitch mental help, or even just a life imprisonment will still cost taxpayers money to feed her and provide her healthcare, why even give her that small privilege. just kill the bitch, she's worthless.
Feb 9 2012 12:11PM
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Mike-O
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It'd be hilarious if some of these kids jamming on getting the girl killed ended up studying law, through to criminal justice and maybe even sitting behind a judge's stand on cases like this.


I gotta screencap this shit, fokken saved.
Feb 9 2012 12:15PM
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Amadeus.
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Feb 9 2012 12:20PM
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feihlination
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a big problem with this view is where do you draw the line between "normal" people and "worthless" people?

ok, i admit she probably would be a good choice for someone who shouldnt re-enter the community because she thoroughly enjoyed killing a young girl. but what about someone who stole a car? raped a teenager? set a house on fire?

the moment you essentially classify people into "worthless" and "normal" ones, is the moment you have created a fascist regime.

thats what i meant earlier with "the lawmaker has to stay on top of it all". no emotions. just (as objective as they can be) moral standards.
Feb 9 2012 12:23PM
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jeR.
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right. i understand what you're saying, and agree that objectivity is paramount in law. but this isn't a regular murder case, its one person (at 15 you should be somewhat cognizant enough of your actions and accountable to them that slashing and strangling your nine-year old neighbour is wrong...) killing another person for sheer enjoyment. i think legal precedent would show that those who commit arson or grand theft auto are not given the death penalty. she is worthless because she killed out of enjoyment, it doesn't seem in this case that there are greater institutional reasons for her acting out in this way (such as poverty-ghettos-gangs-gang killings) so she clearly not a victim in any case. our current penal system is extremely poor at its actual job, rehabilitation, so why try? again I stress the point that I do not see clear evidence of her being a victim of greater institutional processes, but a heartless, evil, cold-blooded, killer. she doesn't deserve to die, I won't go that far immediately, but she needs to be removed from society, and sure as hell does not deserve any form of support, whether mental, or even food everyday. no taxpayer deserves to keep this bitch alive. therefore, death penalty IMO.
Feb 9 2012 12:32PM
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derbski
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To re-cap your opinion, this girl made a terrible, terrible decision at age 15, and no amount of reflection, guilt, and rehabilitation will ever make her suitable to re-enter society, even a half century down the line.

---at this point I would like to mention that we are already at a disagreement, but just to entertain your viewpoint, we will act like I agree with the above statement----

Ok, so she is in prison, where she poses no threat whatsoever to anybody on the outside. She costs a lot of money to take care of. A lifetime means a whole lot of food, energy, water, and man-hours at the prison. We should kill her.

EXCEPT, it costs much much more to kill somebody than to keep them alive. There is more to pay for than the bullets for the guns, electricity for the chair, rope for the noose, or the lethal injection. You have to pay for multiple appeals trials, lawyers and other legal fees.

So basically, your argument is totally invalid.
Feb 9 2012 12:38PM
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Mike-O
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Soldiers enlisting to "fight for their country", anyone?

There's gotta be a lot of people in there who just want to shoot some people, go ahead and try them in a court of law all the same.
Feb 9 2012 12:39PM
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Bateman
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That shit's cray, and that bitch's gray.
Feb 9 2012 12:40PM
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annex_
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my thoughts exactly
Feb 9 2012 12:40PM
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steezeknees
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Holy bejesus. There is no denying that there is something seriously mentally wrong with that bitch. All girls must be like that on the inside.
Feb 9 2012 12:43PM
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Kazabazua
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I don't. Locking her up isn't going to do anything but make her more fucked up. She definitely has psychological problems and I think she and the rest of society (paying $100,000 a year to keep her in prison) would benefit more if she was sent to a mental health facility.
Feb 9 2012 12:51PM
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Jane6
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I lol'd.

But in all seriousness, mentally deranged people like her shouldnt be sentenced to death, what good comes out of that? Sure, the world gets rid of a psychopath, but I personally have a hard time justifying death, may it be killing someone because of craziness or if its "state approved" and done in a prison.
Feb 9 2012 12:56PM
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Lé.Skiing
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she deserves every year in prison... 
Feb 9 2012 1:15PM
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Anathema
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some people just arent right in the head.
Feb 9 2012 1:22PM
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Phil-X-
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looks like a young brian peppers

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Feb 9 2012 1:28PM
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theBearJew
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Sounds like the blueprint for a serial killer right here... "Once you get over the feeling omg i cant do this, its pretty enjoyable"

WTF.

She should be killed. Death penalty for sure. Life in prison isnt that bad depending on what prison.
Feb 9 2012 1:55PM
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Benseleit
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i agree fully
Feb 9 2012 2:16PM
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skifoo
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Death sentence would just let her go out of her situation. Maybe she'll regret it one day, maybe not. Anyways it's waste of money and effort to put her in jail.
They should teleport her to hell, and live in forever lasting pain.

That's just the way I see it. It's just so sick how some people can be like that.
Feb 9 2012 2:39PM
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HitTheJim
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The issue lies in the judicial system, which I believe is the topic at hand. So it is a very reasonable debate that reforms should be made to said system making the cost of capital punishment no more than a bullet.
Feb 9 2012 2:48PM
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Mike-O
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Capital punishment should have no place in modern, civilized society.
Feb 9 2012 2:52PM
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Aenigma
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It doesn't, we're one of the only developed countries that still think it's worthwhile, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Feb 9 2012 2:56PM
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