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Lets have a brainstorm sesh

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Jaymon
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So I see a lot of the same stuff these days. it seems like everyone and their mom has a t2i and is making videos and as a result there is a ton of repetition and overall shitty edits. It is not lack of information on how to be better at what you do, but rather not enough new ideas moving around amongst filmers. And to push it even farther it seems like it is often the professional people who DO have the knowledge and equipment to push the envelope that conform to the norms of the industry, with many obvious exceptions.

In this thread talk about what we have done in recent edits that has set them apart from other edits in similar disciplines of riding and filming. Talk about video parts or edits that you have found really interesting or that successfully break through a faux pas.

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I really like the way the filmer incorporates movement and cuts in this video to create a substantially more dynamic video while maintaining a a grungy look by undersaturating and underexposing the majority of the shots. I would love to see someone create a similar feel in a big mountain video as it is something that I have never seen. What do you think?





Post more videos and more ideas of things that you have seen that you liked, or ideas that you would like to see used in the future.
Feb 3 2012 1:55PM
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Bmo.
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^that video was sick. i get so tired of skate edits where its just a follow cam with a fisheye.

As far as skiing goes, JP Auclair's street skiing segment in All I Can changed the way I look at urban. Both the skiing and the filming just blew my mind.
Good idea for a thread!
Feb 3 2012 2:53PM
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benJAHmin
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That video was extremely overexposed, whites and blacks were completely blown out imo.
Feb 3 2012 3:15PM
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Jaymon
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but does that harshness not contribute to the overall grunginess of the edit?

I personally really dont like the blown out look when it is used to produce a euphoric feeling edit but when it is used in conjunction with undersaturated colors and film-like graininess i think it gave it a really cool feel.

What about this one of mine? I was really tired of the same ol pow edit so I figured I would try something completely different by creating a similar grungy feel to that skate edit:






And by all means guys feel free to post some of your own edits that you think were unique or that you tried something a little different on.
Feb 3 2012 6:03PM
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POW-WOW
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I've been thinking a lot about this lately too so Ill post when I think of some.
Feb 3 2012 6:09PM
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.Max.
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When everyone starts out as an artist the first things they learn are (should be) the rules, be it composition, exposure, colors, etc. This improves everyone's work, nobody can disagree with that. However, the art that I find most fascinating is pieces that take those rules and bend, stretch, even break them in a way that's necessary to elegantly and subtly achieve the feeling or mood that the artist intended.

"Rules are made to be broken."

This is a cool idea for a thread, I've got something in the works that I'll post up this weekend. I'm going to finish filming tomorrow and hopefully be done by Sunday.
Feb 3 2012 8:09PM
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Merrill
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I came up with a very different idea for a video. Its going to take some planning to shoot it but i will post it when i'm done.
Feb 4 2012 10:10AM
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Jaymon
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what would that be? I would really like to get some creative ideas bouncing from one m&a-er to another

I just got back from a bluebird day of alpine alaska lines. a bunch of my shots are a tad overexposed. Any ideas what I can do with this footage in an artsy kinda way?
Feb 4 2012 8:20PM
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Merrill
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I don't know how well it will work but I want to try to make kind of a day in the life type video that is a combination of point of view and other types of shots but you would be able to hear what the person is thinking as it goes along. If that makes sense?
Feb 4 2012 8:35PM
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juicedrummer11
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i think this looks pretty sick. the one thing im not a big fan of any video for the most part is cuts that go to black. but thats just a personal thing for me. i like how that was filmed and really wish i could ski that spot haha nice
Feb 4 2012 8:36PM
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Downtofilm
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I have been trying to think of new ideas for ages, I can never seem to come up with anything.
Feb 4 2012 9:05PM
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juicedrummer11
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whenever i get an idea, i try and plan it out, then go out to shoot and it never works out the same. i guess its just best to try and shoot something completely different then you normally would and go from there? i have this issue as well tho
Feb 4 2012 9:08PM
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Jaymon
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For me It always helps to make a playlist of a songs that fit with whatever mood I am trying to shoot and roll through that as I film. I find if i can get into the music it really helps me change how I shoot.
Feb 5 2012 10:14PM
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juicedrummer11
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ive noticed this for me too. the only problem is sometimes ill hear a song and forget what its called...too bad i don't have shazam lol
Feb 6 2012 1:27AM
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benJAHmin
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I was merely saying it because the OP said the creator was "underexposing the majority of the shots".

And to address your point, "Rules are made to be broken", well I don't really agree with it. Rules aren't made to be broken, they're based on years and years worth of solid research to enhance the viewing experience. Rules are made to be followed, obviously not always, but most of the time. Plus I don't think blowing out your colours so that you can barely make out half the image is anything special, if anything, it makes it look much more amateur in my opinion.
Feb 6 2012 10:30AM
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Jaymon
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IMO this is everything that is wrong with the industry today. For us to simply copy the rules that previous generations of film shooters have adapted is irrational. In every other form of art it is those who push the limits and expand the envelope who make the changes for the future of our work.

Whether you look at something like painting, or an art form like music, it is undeniable that despite the countless rules that have been placed on the genre for centuries it is still those who do things a little differently (albiet professionally) that determine how the next generation views the art.

Film is young, the first 35mm camera wasnt even invented until just over 100 years ago. For you to say that rules are "based on years and years worth of solid research" while we just introduced color to film 50 years ago and digitalized everything in the last decade is not only ignorant but stubborn and hesitates progression.

/endrant

p.s. "underexposing" may not have been the right term, I was referring to the shots where it it was filmed into the sunlight therefore underexposing the lows and overexposing the highs creating a silhouette like shot.

kthxbai
Feb 6 2012 12:37PM
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