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Thoughts on the SAT's

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platform8
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personaly, they suck dick and i hate them. dont see a purpose besides comparing yourself to peers and qualifying for some overated University College

Jan 30 2012 11:32PM
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B-runge
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yeah thats the point of them dumbass
did you get a 600?
Jan 30 2012 11:33PM
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Aidan-G
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I like it cause it got me out of all the retard classes at this school
Jan 30 2012 11:33PM
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platform8
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is gpa not good enough tho?
Jan 30 2012 11:36PM
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Aidan-G
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GPA shows work ethic. SAT's show knowledge
Jan 30 2012 11:36PM
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jayo.
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No. Different schools have different grading standards which means that GPA can be pretty subjective sometimes
Jan 30 2012 11:38PM
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loomis
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Not a big fan, but a girl at our school was one the 700 in the nation to get a perfect score.
Jan 30 2012 11:38PM
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californiagrown
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really fucking easy. you dont need to know much to get a very good score. use common sense.


btw a few of the top companies in the country require your SAT scores with your application...
Jan 30 2012 11:39PM
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amo
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idk they helped me a bunch. my GPA was meh and i killed the SATs so they were a huge help
Jan 30 2012 11:39PM
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platform8
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http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,101321,00.html

something to think about.....
Jan 30 2012 11:40PM
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Aidan-G
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All i know is that without SAT's I'd be screwed. only had a mediocre GPA but I got a 700 on math so I like the SAT's
Jan 30 2012 11:41PM
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TallerThanThou
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My GPA is only like a 3.4, but I think I slew the ACT at least. I'm taking the SAT in about 2 months.
Jan 30 2012 11:45PM
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platform8
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imo im not sure if they cover enough basic knowledge tho. the sections and questions seem to repeat themselves. there could be a broader spectrum of subjects covered...

Jan 30 2012 11:47PM
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Aidan-G
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Ever hear of the subject tests?
Jan 30 2012 11:49PM
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platform8
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i thought i blew the act. but my score conversion from act to sat was pretty high.. not a fan of the act at all either..
Jan 30 2012 11:49PM
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BlackCupid
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" Richard Atkinson says the test hurls kids into months of practicing word games and math riddles at the expense of studying chemistry or poetry."

Hahahahah, yeah right. Like they're going to study poetry instead. hahahahaha.



Jan 30 2012 11:49PM
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platform8
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why would they have to have separate tests?
Jan 30 2012 11:50PM
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Aidan-G
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So you want a test that would take a week to complete that covers every subject?
Jan 30 2012 11:52PM
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platform8
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there are 10 sections in the sat why not replace like 3 or 4 of them for different subjects...? all im sayin
Jan 30 2012 11:53PM
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plaplapla
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i thought they were fun
Jan 30 2012 11:54PM
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Pool.
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because then the test would be retardedly hard
Jan 30 2012 11:54PM
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Amadeus.
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SATs show very little knowledge. I know people that know nothing about the world, and are the most uncultured people, and they get over 2000 on their SAT's just because they are good test takers. The ACT on the other hand is more about knowledge, because it tests what you have learned in high school. With the SAT all the problems are relatively easy, but most of them trick you into choosing the wrong answers.
Jan 30 2012 11:55PM
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Aidan-G
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I know people who get 4.0s and got 1200 on the SATs. SAT is more about what you learned compared to SATs. That's the point i was making
Jan 30 2012 11:58PM
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californiagrown
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knowledge you gain in the classroom doesnt necessarily translate to doing well in a job...and colleges want to have succesful alumni who will give them money. SAT's are very good indicators of how succesful you will be because its always about how well you can work the system...identify the patterns, what works what doesnt and then play the odds. not. that. hard.
Jan 31 2012 12:00AM
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Aidan-G
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Jan 31 2012 12:01AM
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WikiWiki
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this- my gpa sucked in highschool because I didnt give a single shit- however my sats were bomb so I got into the schools that I wanted


I just got my LSAT scores back- 170 even mofos- now to decide if I even want to go to law school or not
Jan 31 2012 12:03AM
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platform8
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i dont think it would be any harder minus a few retarded vocabulary and comprehension sections. that test is literally like 7 solid sections of reading comprehension and grammar...
Jan 31 2012 12:04AM
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Aidan-G
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So you want like 5 questions about science? stop whining and just take the subject tests
Jan 31 2012 12:05AM
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platform8
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the SAT's suck enough. honestly standardizing your knowledge to a test score is unfair, ya there great if you bombed high school and you get a good grade..
Jan 31 2012 12:19AM
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Aidan-G
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i can see why you hate them now. Did you score 200 on the english section or something?
Jan 31 2012 12:21AM
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Funnel
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SAT>ACT. However, you can do shittier on the ACT and that translates into a better SAT score.
Jan 31 2012 1:37AM
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Gnarwall
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The SAT's are a joke of a test. Genuinely smart people do just as well as the kids who take three months of prep classes and memorize the book. Anyone can get a decent grade if they take a prep class at their parents expense.

I didn't give two fucks, took it, got a decent score, and got into a decent college.
Jan 31 2012 2:00AM
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californiagrown
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thats life buddy.
Jan 31 2012 3:01AM
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katie.
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The only thing that the SAT measures is common sense and your ability to take the SAT. The math is just common knowledge, same as the reading and writing. I personally think they're terrible measurements of "knowledge" but because they're standardized, it gives people a benchmark to compare with other students.
Jan 31 2012 5:52AM
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Mike-O
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"Most of the questions on the SAT, except for the essay and the grid-in math responses, are multiple choice; all multiple-choice questions have five answer choices, one of which is correct."

Yeah man, show your knowledge! ...by choosing.


Anyway, I'm not dissing the whole thing as most of the math seems to be non-multiple choice and I suck at math, and I've done the GMAT myself which is quite similar I believe and it wasn't exactly a walk in the park.
Jan 31 2012 6:04AM
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juninho
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at the upper end 1450 to 1600 they correlate with iq like you wouldnt believe. lower end correlates exremely well  too.
Jan 31 2012 6:42AM
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812
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basicaaly this for me too
Jan 31 2012 7:39AM
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bdowning
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SATs are completely different than GPA. And they are important. And they prove a solid purpose for placement.

Jan 31 2012 9:16AM
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platform8
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what im picking up from this is that everyone that didnt give a shit in high school likes taking the SAT, because without it you would be in a shit storm.. 
Jan 31 2012 9:43AM
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Hamster.
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get to take mine in about a month, fuck yeah, wait my entire day will be wasted
Jan 31 2012 11:32AM
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Aidan-G
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So what you're saying is that any test that is multiple choice we should be able to pass it without trying because we can guess the answers
Jan 31 2012 12:41PM
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Mike-O
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Not exactly, I just think that multiple choice inhibits real thought and actual knowledge. But yes. Theoretically it is possible, no? It's pretty obvious. You know how it feels.

"Shit shit... fuck me, 'to abhor' also means... fuck it, I don't know, I'll just try choose at random... Eenie meenie miny.... d) loathe. Whew, next one."
Jan 31 2012 12:54PM
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Aidan-G
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I do but I think you still have to know to get a respectable score. You can't just show up and pick at random
Jan 31 2012 12:56PM
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Mike-O
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I do too, but hypotheticals is where I'm always at. Is there a difference between knowing and studying as people are asking here? That Time article stated that prepping for the SAT wouldn't affect scores dramatically.
Jan 31 2012 1:09PM
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juninho
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sorry mike but im gonna listen to what albert einstein said.

"knowledge means nothing. Imagination is everything"

also like i said iq correlates with sat scores with around 99 9 percent certainty.  so go ahead and shit on your low sat, but know that your shitting on your probable future wealth, possibility of being einstein etc.

kim peek, the savant who remembers every fact he reads forever, will never be able to understand high level mathematics or solve a geometric proof.

memorizing and throwing it back up on the page is the definition of all effort and no talent. in order to get a perfect score on the sat, you are not choosing jack fucg shit. you are finding the answer yourself and then filling in the bubble which matches your fucking answer

clear? im nt posting again so read this well and if you want to argue head  to google
Jan 31 2012 1:09PM
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Mike-O
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lol

You do understand that using imagination and intelligence combined with prior knowledge, the ability to convey things without being given answers to choose from is exactly what I'm suggesting as a better solution.

But hey, you go day trade your millions, keep it real.
Jan 31 2012 1:22PM
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LivingColour
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didn't you get like a 2100 on them?
Jan 31 2012 1:30PM
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juninho
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broke my promise but this seems relevant because of the stupid score change.

1600 2400 36 1560–1590
2340–2390 35 1520–1550
2280–2330 34 1480–1510
2220–2270 33 1440–1470
2160–2210 32 1400–1430 2100–2150 31 1360–1390 2040–2090 30 1320–1350 1980–2030 29 1280–1310 1920–1970 28 1240–1270 1860–1910 27 1200–1230 1800–1850 26 1160–1190 1740–1790 25 1120–1150 1680–1730 24 1080–1110 1620–1670 23 1040–1070 1560–1610 22 1000–1030 1500–1550 21 960–990 1440–1490 20 920–950 1380–1430 19 880–910 1320–1370 18 840–870 1260–1310 17 800–830 1200–1250 16 760–790 1140–1190 15 720–750 1080–1130 14 680–710 1020–1070 13 640–670 960–1010 12 600–630 900–950 11

also pussies who take latin instead of a real language have a huge advantage on verbal.
Jan 31 2012 1:51PM
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