Indoor dry-ski park near Toronto, ON

just wondering, and im not being a dick here....

but you might want to look into the costs of purchasing/renting/leasing a warehouse property big enough to support this idea within the GTA.

and if youre comfortable with that price.

maybe look into how much square footage of snowflex you would need and the costs of that.

and if youre comfortable with that price.

phone an insurance company and inquire about insurance rates for such an operation.

and if youre comfortable with that price, give me some fuckin money. cause obviously you have too much of it to begin with.

you are going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions in the hole before you even open the front doors to a place like this.

i must stress, im not being a dick here, i think youre just putting the wagon before the horse. talking about features and ticket pricing when you havnt even looked into the costs of a location yet.

not trying to be a debby downer on you, cause it is a great idea. BUT, i can guarantee someone within the GTA has had this idea before you have, AND the reason why it does not exist, isnt because there is not a market, but because it costs too damn much.

If youre trying to put together a business model, then focus on business. Not talking about how awesome it would be if it had this and this and this, and costs this much to ride there for a day.

AGAIN, i am not being a dick. just trying to steer you in the right direction here.

there was an off-season park in Niagara, didnt have the chance to go since it went under.

Id say-

(one hit option? $5 a hit)

3-4hour pass- $20

day pass at $30

weekend pass/3day pass $80

season pass (spring, winter, summer, fall) $275

full year pass $400


When it comes to a place like this you need more then just a snowflex kicker + rails. You need olympic style tramps, foam blocks, a skateboard mini pipe, and if youre a really cool guy youll put a spring diving board that goes into the foam pit (oh and a zipline)


and of course 100% free for everyone in this thread:)

I would definitely come

I'd try to do the same thing/something similar as Joyride 150 (indoor bike park:http://www.joyride150.com/). So you can have lets say group rates, by a block of tickets, try to get some sponsors, camp/coaching, events (like joyride has women only on a certain day for a couple of hours).

Seward,

You're not being a dick, you're just assuming I don't know what I'm doing, or maybe that I'm 15, and saying so a bit.....dramatically.....but have no fear. I would talk about how big the market is for this but I'd be preaching to the choir. Obviously the start up cost of this is going to be hefty, but this is just a basic feasibility assessment (and no I'm not a millionaire - but don't forget about financing!). The first step in this for me is talking to customers, not necessarily a bottom line costs. I want to have a perfect idea of what you, the customers, want, so that I can develop something even better that you will all love.

I've started looking into property/plant/equipment costs and insurance is next. The basic feature talk is to get a primitive picture and to help get the conversation going....thought I'd grab your attention with the more exciting aspects instead of discussing my certain future debt!

Be optimistic!

Will

Seward,

You're not being a dick, you're just assuming I don't know what I'm doing, or maybe that I'm 15, and saying so a bit.....dramatically.....but have no fear. I would talk about how big the market is for this but I'd be preaching to the choir. Obviously the start up cost of this is going to be hefty, but this is just a basic feasibility assessment (and no I'm not a millionaire - but don't forget about financing!). The first step in this for me is talking to customers, not necessarily a bottom line costs. I want to have a perfect idea of what you, the customers, want, so that I can develop something even better that you will all love.

I've started looking into property/plant/equipment costs and insurance is next. The basic feature talk is to get a primitive picture and to help get the conversation going....thought I'd grab your attention with the more exciting aspects instead of discussing my certain future debt!

Be optimistic!

Will

no where in that did i say you were 15, or that you didnt know what you were doing.

you claim to have already started on many of the things i suggested starting on. however, no where prior to this post did you mention that you had already started on those things. therefore i was left to assume that you had either not considered these things yet, or were as i put it, putting the wagon ahead of the horse.

since you have, you obviously know what you are doing and i wish you all the best.

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as much as this is a great idea, i think the ontario ski scene is too apathetic to make this succeed. Just my opinion though, good luck.

you sir are soooooo wrong

best wishes with this man. remember to try and get sponsors. they could help with the costs of pretty much anything and you could sell it really well to them because you would have a huge market with skiers in borders across ontario. I from buffalo and i would head up there no doubt. good luck cant wait to see this if it goes through

just my opinion man, it sucks when you see cool things show up in ontario and it not working out like people hope it would. Things like pwned, if3 toronto and polson pier were all great things, but ended up not working out as expected.

hahahahaha wooow that is ignorance

how much do you think this venture will cost? you will definitely need investors and better have one hell of a business plan to convince someone to invest in your carpet covered hill. no building will have the head room to make any amount of slope or have the length to accommodate the length needed. best bet would be to have a coverall style building custom built to be erect on a slope. I just can't see it happening

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