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Line Chronic 2010 with 110mm brakes

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DaveOx
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Alright, so I can get a good deal on some 2010 Line Chronics and a good deal on some Marker Griffon Schizo Bindings. The problem is the bindings are 110mm brakes, and the width of the 2010 Chronics 85mm. Is that going to be too wide? I also found the Chronic Cryptonites for 40 dollars more and they are 92mm so the bindings should work there. Will the standard Chronics not work well with those 110mm bindings? Are there any other bindings similar to the Schizo's with the adjustable position you might recommend? Thanks in advance guys!
Jan 30 2012 10:54AM
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Blurst
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The brakes will not make a huge difference the only issue is that there is space between where they sit and the ski. You should still be fine regardless though.
Jan 30 2012 11:03AM
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DaveOx
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I've heard that it can cause issues when carving out of the park because the brake can hit, is that not the case?
Jan 30 2012 11:07AM
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mountainviper
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I've experienced the brakes hooking when they're too big while riding switch. Think it depends how much bigger the brake is and how close your skis are for your style when you ski. You lookin at those cryptos on eBay? Cause they already have bindings from what I see.
Jan 30 2012 11:32AM
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DaveOx
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Nah, i saw the 178s on there, not bad looking skis, I ride 173s right now but could prolly do 178, I'm 5'11" 180ish. I dunno where they are mounted though.
Jan 30 2012 11:35AM
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mountainviper
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Oh yeah you should be on a 178 all day.
Jan 30 2012 12:32PM
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DaveOx
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Word? Maybe I should get those. 2.5 from center good for 50/50 park all mtn?
Jan 30 2012 12:50PM
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cornholio
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yes
Jan 30 2012 12:57PM
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mountainviper
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Yeah dude. Pretty much the exact setup I had. I had two sets. One at center and one at -2.5. I felt way too divey at center and it was a chore in any fresh. The -2.5 though was slammin. Pretty much the sweet spot on those skis. I'd only mount center on those if it was a rail only ski.
Jan 30 2012 1:30PM
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BrewskiJr
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This. I ride the cryps -2.5 back and do 50/50 park all mountain (midwest skier) its real nice
Jan 30 2012 3:16PM
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DaveOx
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I ended up getting this http://www.ebay.com/itm/140686110853?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 Good deal? Yay or nay?
Jan 30 2012 3:28PM
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DaveOx
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http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/140686110853?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Jan 30 2012 3:29PM
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mountainviper
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Dude did you buy the ones with the squires for $500? Holy! Your waaay too heavy for those bindings. Now your gonna have to buy new bindings. Haha. You sooo shoulda asked on this thread. Epic epic fail.
Jan 30 2012 8:05PM
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mountainviper
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Haha. You sooo suck dude. Now my buddy is gonna buy the ones with the px12s off eBay and not buy mine for $400. You sooo suck. Haha.
Jan 30 2012 8:11PM
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rozboon
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God you're an asshole. This post was entirely unneccesary, you got the point across in the first reply but with this one you were just being a shitbag.

I know this place can be harsh when people do dumb stuff but you missed the mark completely.

Jan 30 2012 8:45PM
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max...
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even if you find you have a problem with their width, its a very simple problem to solve. you can buy new brakes, or go to a local shop and have them throw some skinnier ones on. i know i can go to a nearby shop and get two new brakes from a bin of miscellaneous brakes for $20 and they'll slap them on for me right there. as long as the shop carries marker bindings, they should be compatible
Jan 30 2012 8:49PM
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DaveOx
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Really 11 DIN seems plenty for 180 pounds. I have my skis now set to 8.
Jan 30 2012 9:34PM
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DaveOx
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http://www.markerusa.com/bindings-royal-squire-schizo.php

According to Marker, up to 240 pounds works with the squire schizo
Jan 30 2012 9:35PM
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DaveOx
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+K for anyone else who has an opinion on these bindings. Got me worried now.
Jan 30 2012 10:10PM
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Slowbro
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nope. I'm 150 and i do not like the squires i have, much happier with my Sth12's on my park skis. You should get a higher din, more reliable binding.
Jan 30 2012 10:21PM
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travman39
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this probly...but i have squires and there fine but idk how long they will be fine im same hight and 165
Jan 30 2012 10:29PM
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mountainviper
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No dude. At an 11 din max you should be no higher than 9. You could get away with a din of 9 at your weight but the squire is an absolute shit binding. The squire Schizos are extra shitty. They are made for chicks and little kids. Marker says it'll support X amount of weight but they don't. They will literally explode. Do yourself a favor and immediately remove those and try to sell them. Then get at least a griffon. At your weight I'd go jester if you intend to do anything more than baby jumps.
Jan 30 2012 10:32PM
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DaveOx
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Thanks +K for you guys. I should mention, this is my first season skiing, park and otherwise, so I don't imagine I will be hitting any 45 foot kickers or anything... I just slid my first box yesterday lol
Jan 30 2012 10:32PM
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travman39
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you will be fine
Jan 30 2012 10:34PM
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mountainviper
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Seriously be careful if you ride those squires. I'm not kidding when I say sell them. At your weight if you were say my brother, there's no effing way I'd let you ski on those. Let alone do park. Good luck either way.
Jan 30 2012 10:38PM
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pbandj
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i really hope you're the only person who catches bird flu in 2012.

Jan 31 2012 2:17AM
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DaveOx
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Lol so do you think they will be alright?
Jan 31 2012 7:32AM
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mountainviper
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I don't get why peeps are hating on me for giving you legit advice. That makes zero sense. You make a thread saying your 5'11" and 180lbs asking if you should get the squires and anyone over 16yrs old is gonna laugh at ya. To the OP you did get that a few posts ago I was joking with you about my friend right? No hate involved I swear. It was based on our PM conversation and I was simply pointing out why I sounded harsh in the first post. It's really not a big deal cause my buddy has been talkin bout buyin my setup for like a year now but saw those cryptos online. I was seriously joking with ya. Anyway, I am giving you legit advice. I said "if you were my brother I wouldn't let ya ride on squires" and I meant it. I'm lookin out for your safety bud. Make a thread asking how many peeps had squires explode just hitting a box or a rail. Or better yet use the searchbar on the forums here. I'm not kidding man. Those things are dangerous at your weight. Peeps can hate post and -k me all day. I don't give a damn. I feel better having given ya legit advice that may save ya from injury.
Jan 31 2012 10:27AM
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pbandj
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too bad i know a shit ton of people in the same weight range that also ride them. and have had zero issues.

also, when push comes to shove and your binding fails and you get seriously injured the binding company is liable. So when marker says it can support up to 240 lbs, they mean it. Otherwise they'll be pretty much unprotected in lawsuits.

not to mention he's just starting park, that will be a legit as fuck set up to start park with.
Jan 31 2012 2:53PM
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mountainviper
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Did you sell him the skis or something? Because that makes zero sense. Are your friends who ride squires chicks or 12yr old boys? There's no way you have friends that size rockin squires in a legit way. Dude I'm slightly bigger than him and my entire quiver has jester pros. I personally wouldn't even rock a griff after seeing the plastic heel pieces shatter on dumb stuff. And dude FYI marker ain't gonna cover med expenses when they fail. Are you nuts? Or just 12? I'm thinkin you musta been the one who sold em to him or somethin. I really wish some of the serious NSers would jump in here to back me up.
Jan 31 2012 3:24PM
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pbandj
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you obviously know NOTHING about the inner workings of the ski industry...

Liability is priority issue number one on EVERY companies plate. And when the lawsuits come around on binding malfunctions, it's not the ski shop or the rental shop who are footing the bill (unless they royally fucked up), it's the binding manufacturer.

Seriously, I had to sit through an 8 hour meeting about this shit. so if in fact the squires were having major malfunction issues, there would instantly be a recall on the product.

Also an FYI, someone at his skill level, I personally wouldn't mount a jester pro on any of his skis. Depending on his BSL his DIN would be to low to actually mount jester pro's in a safe manner and would limit your liability.

Just because YOU have personally seen them break, does not mean that he will have the same issue.

And no I didn't sell them to him, my skis aren't in good enough condition to be sold when I'm finished with them.
Jan 31 2012 4:16PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
I wasn't telling him to mount Jester pros. I said that I have those. It's whatever dude. I really don't see where your coming from. Maybe I should run out and throw squires on all my skis. They're nice and light right? No problems right? I'm way under 240lbs. I'll be good on them right? Amazing. Your gonna get someone hurt. At the end of the day I feel bad for the op cause he got rooked into buyin a kids binding. I'll be surprised if he makes it through the season without having to replace or warranty them.
Jan 31 2012 6:07PM
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mountainviper
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Oh and for your liability argument, actually marker gets out of any liability as soon as he puts those in the park.
Jan 31 2012 6:08PM
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rozboon
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How to put it...they're a lightweight binding for lightweight skiers. They're not inherently bad, they're just not terribly tough. I'm trying to think of a good example for it. Let's say, the brakes on your car. They might say they're fine for stopping a 2500lb car, and for 90% of people they will be. But if you take the same 2500lb car and drive it at 140mph around a race track, you'll soon find they're terrible.

Likewise, the Squire... it's probably totally fine with a 230lb dude skiing intermediate groomers on them. But as soon as you start doing jumps, hitting rails, putting awkward loads on them where DIN doesn't come into it (wait until you have your first REALLY heavy tail landing and see how the toe piece holds up) your 180lbs is suddenly putting a whole lot of force on a binding that isn't really made to take it.

At 180lb I'm not sure I'd even consider the Griffon. I'd be looking very hard at those PX15 Jibs that Evo has for like $62 at the moment.

Jan 31 2012 6:49PM
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mountainviper
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Dude. Thank god someone who makes friggin sense! You called me an asshole earlier but that's because you took my comment out of context. It was based on a pm between me and the op so no biggie. But for your most recent comment rozboon I'm givin ya 10/10
Jan 31 2012 7:43PM
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russ.bar
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A little off topic but i am looking mount my new surface drifters, is a binding with a 115 mm brake gonna be a problem?
Jan 31 2012 10:43PM
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russ.bar
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sorry for the dub post but the 181 drifters, with a 110 waist.
Jan 31 2012 10:44PM
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rozboon
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It'll be fine.
Jan 31 2012 11:10PM
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DaveOx
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Alright, so I'm gonna sell the bindings. Them being weak is going to be in my head the whole time and I'm just not going to enjoy skiing on them. Now, lesson learned, before I buy new bindings I will consult with you guys. SOOOOOOO here goes, how do we feel about these? Seems like a ridiculously good price, which of course seems too good to be true. http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-bindings/dynastar-px14-100mm-brakes.aspx
Feb 2 2012 9:05PM
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DaveOx
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bump?
Feb 2 2012 10:25PM
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mountainviper
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Those are decent but one more thing, your putting these on cryptos right? Get the 90mm brake instead of the 100. You can slightly tweak the brake to fit but a brake that's wider than your waist by that much can actually hook when riding switch or catch the snow if your carving really hard. On the other hand if you stretch a brake too far it can change the angle on the brake and actually make it stick out further than intended on the side and create similar issues. On the crypto being a 92, a 90 with a slight tweak is perfection. In fact you may not even have to tweak it at all.
Feb 2 2012 10:55PM
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mountainviper
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Tell ya what though, you should maybe scroll through bst on here and try to get some jester Schizos. Don't quote me on this but I believe the mount is the same as the squire Schizos? Meaning the screw pattern. Pretty sure it's the same plate. Something to consider.
Feb 2 2012 10:58PM
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DaveOx
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Nah, they are 2012 line chronics.
Feb 2 2012 11:16PM
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mountainviper
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Oh dude you didn't do bad then for that much. Shit sell those bindings and be happy with whatever ya get for em cause they were kinda a freebie. I thought you got new '10s with squires. Makes much more sense now. Do yourself a favor and spend the little extra on jester schizos. Decent bindings.
Feb 2 2012 11:46PM
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DaveOx
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Anyone else have an opinion on these? http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-bindings/dynastar-px14-100mm-brakes.aspx +K for opinions!
Feb 3 2012 9:57AM
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