Preworkouts Who uses em what do you take and do you have any side effects? +K for info

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i don't agree with ecb about milk. i've listened to alan aragon and he says it's stupid to take milk out of your diet and even only eating egg whites and discarding the yolk. sounds like a whole lot of bro science, ecb.

as for preworkouts, i just eat a solid meal. i keep the supplements i use to the basics. not sure if i will ever try the aforementioned brands though. maybe. right now i'm satisfied with a whey blend, creatine, and oats.

Jan 27 2012 8:33AM

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my roommate body builds and this is exactly what he does

lots and lots of eggs, creatine, whey blends, and oats

basically he eats huge, healthy meals and then throws in some creatine every night

Jan 27 2012 9:21AM

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i don't do the creatine at night. i just do a glass of milk and a spoon of peanut butter.

Jan 27 2012 9:24AM

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You don't have to agree with me, I'm just pointing out scientific facts that have been researched.

Bro Science is muscle milk.

Plus, I still drink milk, I live in farm country, I love milk, I could never give it up, but I am cutting back, like my white russian days are over....ugh

And Alan Aragon? Can you provide me with evidence he is right?

Jan 27 2012 2:33PM

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ECB

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http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

http://www.naturalnews.com/031255_milk_health.html

http://drbinningsdose.com/2011/07/21/milk-false-advertising-at-its-best/

http://docakilah.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/stevia/

You can go on google yourself and type in: Is milk bad for you

And to answer your question why you shouldn't eat dairy, I can answer that with a question, Why should you?

There are no benefits to eating dairy, no nutrients that you can't get elsewhere. The only benefit is that you like the taste, which is in fact a legit reason to eat dairy. But that's it.

Jan 27 2012 2:38PM

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Whatever this dude takes

Jan 27 2012 3:14PM

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ok i'm a runner and gatoraade is an advertising scheme, you dont need to replenish carbs uless your running a marathon and all gatorade is is sugar and water + flavoring. I'd agree on protien shakes like whey protien and muscle milk.

Jan 27 2012 4:33PM

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http://www.simplyshredded.com/qa-with-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon-milk.html

http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/dairy_products/

you keep doing your thing. and i'll keep doing mine.

Jan 27 2012 4:48PM

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Lol at who said animal cuts is a pre

Jan 27 2012 5:09PM

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ECB

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Jan 27 2012 5:56PM

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Anything that raises your heart rate is generally not something you want to consistently take

Jan 27 2012 7:24PM

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THIS !!!

Jan 27 2012 7:37PM

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Also really depends on what you want from your pre-work out. Some pre-workouts out perform others in certain areas.

For example if you want the best pump you can get I would suggest Superpump 250.

For energy and focus the 2 best I have tried are 1MR and Lean Revolution (currently on this)

The only pre-workout I really didnt like or see much of a difference with is Jack3d.

Jan 27 2012 8:22PM

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preworkouts are to working out what adderall is to studying.

you do just fine without it, but you take it once and you realize that you have been a lower level the whole time. its hard to go back down to that lower level, and then soon enough that higher level becomes the new norm.

Jan 27 2012 8:40PM

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Just fucking get juiced you wussbags.

Jan 27 2012 8:42PM

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and not that "legal" bullshit. Get some real gear and watch your muscles grow.

Shit works unbelieveably well. Ive had workout partners who were weaker and smaller than me blow me away in terms of muscle gain and strength in a matter of weeks. As long as you know what you are doing, and stack the correct stuff in the right dosages, its completely safe.

Jan 27 2012 8:48PM

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i've heard drug addicts say those exact same words.

i know you're talking about efficiency and some kind of ROI for your time at the gym, but once you know the new level, when do you stop?

Jan 27 2012 8:49PM

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...i was also gonna add having sex on molly vs having sex sober. NO COMPARISON.

you dont stop! Ever. Bigger. Faster. Stronger!!!!!!!!!1

Jan 27 2012 8:54PM

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True. But if I really would ever juice I would try to get to my natural peak first, then push the limits by juicing. That's how you go from natural to pro-untested. Ronnie Coleman, Kai Greene, Dexter Jackson all did the same thing.... seeing their young picture are incredible how big they were.

Jan 27 2012 8:57PM

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Not mentioning Jay in there?

but i fully agree...with one exception.

If i had some kind of event coming up like a heli trip to AK, i would get on some gear just to boost my strength up so i would feel confident going for bigger stuff in bigger terrain.

Jan 27 2012 9:02PM

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Forgot Jay for sure, as well as Heath. He is a monster. I am actually just starting a bulk stage, I am going to try to shoot for my first competition next spring.... so a solid 10 or so months of mass gain then dieting down. Pretty excited to see what I can turn myself into...

Jan 27 2012 9:08PM

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GayWolf420

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Or you could do heroine and get that lean look.

Jan 27 2012 9:09PM

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Ill get on that and let you know how it works.

Jan 27 2012 9:12PM

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I usually just eat insects to get my protein. Usually 2 cockroaches, and a caterpillar or two before my work out and I eat stag beetles after words for that insane protein blast.

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