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Boots Punched vs New Liners

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malibufishnsurf
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Have Rossignol Zenith 120 boots - Ridden them 10-15 days so far. Custom footbeds were made and liners have been molded at Jans in Park City.

Boots work great, however:

1. I need more room for my 3 outside (smallest toes) which do not have enough room laterally.

2. I have a hot spot on the top of my instep

3. Hot spot on my arches (I have very high arches to begin with)

4. My heels are starting to move a bit, and the liners now have some play back and forth.

I'm being super nitpicky - the boots work great and I've ridden every type of terrain in them - all I'm looking for it the ability to NOT have to unbuckle them after every run to let me feet move around.

I only buckle the Top 2 buckles...

Suggestions?

Have boots re-worked/punched? Get different liners?

The only bootfitter near my home is SureFoot in Santa Monica, CA.

Thanks for the insight!
Jan 22 2012 12:08PM
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cobra_commander
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well surefoot will probably make you fork over way to much money and won't touch the boot until you buy their liner and theirfootbed, before they touch the boot. Can you go back to PC anytime soon?

An intuition could take care of your problems, but you would need to add a bunch of heel retention.
Jan 22 2012 12:38PM
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onenerdykid
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1. This could be from the foam or from the shell. Injection foam is quite firm (usually) and might need to be slightly softened for you. However, if it is the shell causing the pain, the shell needs to be stretched in that area.

2. Insteps are tricky. You can have a hole cut in the plastic of the tongue directly over your pain, but the liners tend to die quickly after this. Punching the shell in step 1 will allow your foot to settle though, reducing how much your foot is pushed up into the tongue/shell.

3. Do you wear footbeds in your everyday shoes? If not, you need to. Going from no support to custom footbed will cause your foot to burn and cramp. You do the most help or hurt to your foot in your everyday footwear- get some nice footbeds for them and the problem should go away (if it is related to that).

4. If you try to move your heel, it will move. Does it move during skiing or just when you force it? If it is just when you force it, don't worry about it if skiing is fine.
Jan 22 2012 1:02PM
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Woodhouse
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My dad had the EXACT same problem with a pair of Head Raptor 120s. I bought him some Intuitions for xmas (can not recall which model) and all his problems have gone away. They pack out exactly where you need them to. As for the heel part, he never skis switch, so we just got one of those "Dr Scholls" heel cup things and stuck it under the footbed. It eliminated the slop and gave him a bit of a much needed forward rake.
I recommend Intuitions 110%.
Jan 22 2012 1:43PM
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malibufishnsurf
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Spot on. Surefoot was horseshit - they wanted $615 for a liner and wouldn't talk to me unless I was getting new insoles from them for 250...what a joke.

Who has the intuition liners - which model do I want - and how much does it cost to have one fitted?
Jan 23 2012 11:12AM
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malibufishnsurf
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Great points...do you recommend I have this liner worked on or try to get a custom one made?
Jan 23 2012 11:13AM
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cobra_commander
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Just like everything else, intuition's are a personal matter.

I personally don't like power wraps, but understand how they might be the right option for some people, same with luxury liner, or WC, or alpine or...
Jan 23 2012 12:08PM
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