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No poles = better style

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[evan]
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So i figured this out.

If you start off (learn) to ski with no poles, then later in life when you get poles, your style will be better.

Think of TWall, he rode with no poles in his superunkown, which wasnt that long ago, and now that hes pro, he has the best style in the game. It's because he rode with no poles for most of his carrer.

I figured this out because when you have no poles, your arms stay near you when you balance. So when you get poles, your poles help you balance, but weight more so they have to be lifted higher and instinctly go higher and farther away to keep you from getting stabbed.
Jan 21 2012 10:05PM
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TrystanKing95
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fuck poles
Jan 22 2012 7:30PM
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forrest-cole
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off topic butttt.



if i turn on any edit, and i mean any edit, and the skiers don't have poles i immediately close the window and watch something else.
Jan 22 2012 7:34PM
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PattyC
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I feel the op is the right direction.. Sorta, using no poles to learn keeping your arms down and grabbing during spins dosnt sound like a bad idea
Jan 22 2012 8:03PM
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broto
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man you are missing out on some good skiing. have you watched tom wallisch's superunknown edit? it's pretty good...
Jan 22 2012 8:04PM
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james6345789
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I ski just park. My hill is tiny. But I guess some people can pull off no poles pretty well, but it would seem like a hassle for me. I need to push to get speed for a lot of things at my hill.

I know Alan Lam doesn't always use poles, probably because he does a lot of inline. he can pull it off though.
Jan 22 2012 8:07PM
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[evan]
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Tried to it today on some mini rails, learned 3 new tricks and had much better style.

Now obviously if I'm in the powder or on groomers I'm going to have poles, but for dynamically park use, its not a bad idea to try. I plan on giving it a go next time I go skiing.
Jan 22 2012 8:20PM
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PJS.
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And then you realize "oh wait im a douchenozzle."
Jan 22 2012 8:22PM
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TRASHTALK
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there's a thread on this?
Jan 22 2012 8:30PM
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Gstrong
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soo sick
Jan 22 2012 8:44PM
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steezyangus
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Click for larger image can't do that without poles


also custom paint your poles

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also watch this
Jan 22 2012 8:48PM
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Steezy.Ortisi
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i find either way to be the same.... all how im feeling on a particular day.... no pole days are fun but i try to keep the poles for all tricks

Jan 22 2012 8:57PM
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boomie1312
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I broke my thumb, and was forced not to use poles. I think it's easier to add style, and there is less risk of injuring yourself if you fall.
Jan 22 2012 9:26PM
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Bill.Nye
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How so? I just go in and ask if I can borrow a pair for the day and they give me some.
Jan 22 2012 9:29PM
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[evan]
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I think he assumed you stole them...
Jan 22 2012 10:01PM
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Bill.Nye
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I've never had them say no when I asked.
Jan 22 2012 10:15PM
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FerrisBueller
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here's where you are wrong, i understand that he has perfect landings with crazy tech, but henrik and phil have the best style.
Jan 22 2012 10:15PM
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[evan]
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I disagree, to each their own.

Tom has a more technical, precise, up right style. He lands basically standing straight up, and performs all his rail tricks the same way.

Henrik and b-dog have a much lower center of gravity (maybe due to their height), they stay confined, occasionally letting their arms wave when they nollie/press or something like that. They also appear to not even jump onto stuff, they stay super compact when they ride. And obviously they wear different outerwear sizes which I think compliments their riding style.
Jan 22 2012 10:23PM
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Fuknhipster
Posts: 283 - Karma: 133
FUCK POLEs. you look better without an extra two things flying around everywhere looking retarded.
Jan 22 2012 10:36PM
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Fuknhipster
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Than only applies in the park of course
Jan 22 2012 10:37PM
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PJS.
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correct. Not returning=stealing.
Jan 22 2012 11:23PM
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Bill.Nye
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I do return them.
Jan 22 2012 11:28PM
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PJS.
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Well then. Apologies to you my friend, I haven't ran into many people that do. I'm wrong. But more importantly, wrong on the internet.
Jan 22 2012 11:30PM
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Bill.Nye
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I do have one pair of rental poles that stays in my work locker that I use when I'm teaching. I'll give those back at the end of the season. The rental shop gave them to me to use when I'm working though.
Jan 22 2012 11:32PM
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FerrisBueller
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I can agree with your logic, and it is very well thought out and precise, great explanation.
Jan 23 2012 12:04AM
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majora
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how about poles=skiing properly/being able to pole plant/more control
Jan 23 2012 12:30AM
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Toaster-Tony
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Just talking about this today.. Every now and then, I'll lose the poles and run few laps with my hands in my pockets. It definitely makes a difference when I pick the poles up again. I flail half as much on booters and it seems like my hands are really still when I am hitting rails. People make a big deal with skiers that don't use poles but in all honesty, there are skiers out there that make it look just as steezy as if they had their sticks.
Jan 23 2012 1:56AM
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stoned_sorcerer
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Haha, yeah right and maybe sagged baggy pants improve your technique - if you moved your legs your pants would fall down so you have to throw your shoulders really hard...
Jan 23 2012 6:58AM
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[evan]
Posts: 5628 - Karma: 117
You pole plant when you're on a rail?

If you read up top I said that this only applies to park skiing, obviously in powders or on groomers you need poles to ski properly and with the correct technique, but in primarily park, no poles cant hurt.
Jan 23 2012 3:41PM
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Swaggermager
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Wait do you ride in MN? If so I ride Hyland! And I understand the need to push for speed thing at like afton or buck but at hyland if you need a little bit of speed you can just take a few skates. And the first day i rode no poles it was weird for me too but after that I got used to it
Jan 23 2012 5:08PM
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TNORTS
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wait this makes sense...I kinda want to try no poles when i go to southington this weekend...
Jan 26 2012 4:18PM
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scottishskier
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style comes down to how you perform on your skis. not weather or not you are using poles.
Jan 26 2012 4:24PM
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XtRemE11
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poles are gay and make you look like butthole
Jan 26 2012 5:15PM
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JeremyH
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stepp almost never uses poles so not a good example and yea you're logic is dumb, tom wallish isn't the only skiier with style, and poles should not really be affecting your balance that much - if they are you're just not very good.

the only reason i ever ski without poles is if i break mine an dont feel like paying any money for useless park poles. i personally perfer poles just because im so used to having something in my hand
Feb 9 2012 11:00PM
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roddy116
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LOLOLOLOLOL
Feb 9 2012 11:40PM
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ZGR
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Poles definitely help with powder and big mountain type stuff where keeping your balance and initiating turns is tougher, but let's be real. Riding no poles is sooo much smoother feeling and there's way more freedom. Groomed=no poles. Anything else=poles
Feb 9 2012 11:54PM
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Bill.Nye
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Disagree 100%. If I wanna really get into it on groomers it helps a lot to have poles. Also when I see video of myself I find that my overall stance and form is much better when I'm holding poles.
Feb 9 2012 11:58PM
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ZGR
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I'm not talking about how it looks. I'm talkin about how it feeeeeels breh
Feb 10 2012 12:04AM
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Bill.Nye
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I'm talking about both. Having the poles helps me when I want to get down really low.
Feb 10 2012 12:07AM
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ZGR
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Alright I'll give you that. Poles are definitely a balance plus, but when you're just cruising, chillin, or whatever, no poles just sets you free. Or it sets me free, anyway.
Feb 10 2012 12:10AM
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Tjacks19
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If you want to be raw, ski one day with and the other day without.
Feb 10 2012 1:01AM
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sklermang
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You're retarded.
Feb 10 2012 1:23AM
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ZGR
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This nigga
Feb 10 2012 9:25AM
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JeremyH
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shut up dude
Feb 10 2012 10:39AM
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XtRemE11
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oh fuck off
Feb 10 2012 1:45PM
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jreags860
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depens peeps like andy parry can pull it of as lng as you have afterbang your good without pols
Feb 10 2012 2:16PM
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platform8
Posts: 572 - Karma: 208
completely agree.... learn to ski with no poles that way when you start using them you hardly ever rely on them and you look better.
Feb 10 2012 5:36PM
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fratskier69
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i agree with you but your logic is fucking retarded.

the only reason skiing without poles helps you is this:
skiing without poles, you move your arms a certain amount to keep yourself balanced etc.
when you get poles, you are not going to have to move your arms as much to achieve the same amount of balance change, because you have more weight in your hands.

if you ski without poles for a long time, and end up barely moving your arms while pole-less, your arms wont move with the extra weight (and balance) poles give you.
Feb 10 2012 7:15PM
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Errl
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taking my level 2 this season :]
Feb 10 2012 7:43PM
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