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No poles = better style

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[evan]
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So i figured this out.

If you start off (learn) to ski with no poles, then later in life when you get poles, your style will be better.

Think of TWall, he rode with no poles in his superunkown, which wasnt that long ago, and now that hes pro, he has the best style in the game. It's because he rode with no poles for most of his carrer.

I figured this out because when you have no poles, your arms stay near you when you balance. So when you get poles, your poles help you balance, but weight more so they have to be lifted higher and instinctly go higher and farther away to keep you from getting stabbed.
Jan 21 2012 10:05PM
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Good_Deed
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Jan 21 2012 10:06PM
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rareison
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cool story bro.
Jan 21 2012 10:06PM
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Doug.Dimmadome
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fuck your logic
Jan 21 2012 10:07PM
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owned
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heh?
Jan 21 2012 10:16PM
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saskskierftw
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IKindaActuallyUnderstandYourLogic.. Weird..
Jan 21 2012 10:19PM
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Inline.
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Jan 21 2012 10:30PM
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VD.
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I see where you're coming from
Jan 21 2012 10:38PM
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Bill.Nye
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The reason you shouldn't have poles when you first learn to ski is because they are an extra element for you to be thinking about when you barely know what you're doing. One thing that is good to do to beginners to help them practice their form is to give them one pole and have them hold it horizontally like a handlebar. This helps keep their hands in the forward position where they belong, which brings your entire center of gravity over your toes where it should be. Most people have a tenancy to do T Rex style arms when they hold two poles and don't yet know how to handle them, and this brings their weight back which makes it much more difficult to effectively turn.
Jan 21 2012 10:48PM
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belden...
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you have 1 example
Jan 21 2012 10:49PM
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Tree60
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I feel like it could have to do with balance. A lot of people who grew up using poles (including myself) rely on their poles for balance, so if you have exceptional balance without poles, you would probably end up with better style.
Jan 21 2012 10:50PM
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CoachJabroni
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i dont rely think it matters

Jan 21 2012 11:02PM
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james6345789
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Think about the kids who gave up on poles at your hill that suck dick
Jan 21 2012 11:32PM
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I.B
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I think it's your bedtime.
Jan 21 2012 11:36PM
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Parks.
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If you had more evidence I might believe you but I don't really think it matters...
Jan 21 2012 11:36PM
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BlakeG
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thats one guy you, must right the worst fucking essays in the world
Jan 21 2012 11:41PM
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ActualNinja
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Only better style in sig tveit's case.
Jan 21 2012 11:42PM
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quixotic
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he rode no poles for most of his career? more like one season.
Jan 21 2012 11:42PM
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danderson.
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This seems like a good excuse to post an edit of Stepp stylin' with no poles.


Jan 21 2012 11:45PM
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Jacobsen
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Jan 21 2012 11:50PM
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Heart
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i lost +k
Jan 21 2012 11:58PM
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[evan]
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How do you not see my logic, its flawless?
Jan 22 2012 12:05AM
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Bill.Nye
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I can barely understand your grammar much less your logic.
Jan 22 2012 12:08AM
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richard.
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helps with speed to
Jan 22 2012 12:08AM
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Hatsnballs
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it's kinda like getting your dick sucked by a dude. feels good at first, but you're still getting head from a guy
Jan 22 2012 12:09AM
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ActualNinja
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The horrible moment when you realize...

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Jan 22 2012 12:13AM
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Bill.Nye
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And then you walk over to rentals and grab a pair.
Jan 22 2012 12:15AM
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SassySloth
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i ride no poles...
Jan 22 2012 12:19AM
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Swaggermager
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Think about the kids who stopped using poles because they get in the way that are good
Jan 22 2012 12:43AM
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SassySloth
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Thats why i stopped

also this guy !


Jan 22 2012 12:56AM
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dispatchQ_main
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cool...
Jan 22 2012 1:16AM
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Dibs
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Stupid
Jan 22 2012 1:17AM
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RyCo19
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Holy shit who is that guy? I only watched the first edit but every fourth or fifth shot was just oozing style on a pretty technical trick
Jan 22 2012 1:42AM
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Capernicus
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hahahaha...best first response.
Jan 22 2012 1:51AM
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3dressedupasa9
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threads for this
Jan 22 2012 2:02AM
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isthatcool
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I dont know about u guys but when i ride without poles i feel much much comfortable with my grabs.
And when i try to combine spins with grabs i feel it much much easier.But its just me.
Jan 22 2012 2:08AM
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Bill.Nye
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Sounds like you need some Line Pointy sticks with grips with the Grab Tab!

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Jan 22 2012 2:09AM
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Clark_Griswold
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I seriously love the skinny grips for grabs it's super easy. though i have last years so no grab tab:(
Jan 22 2012 2:31AM
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rudager
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From getting stabbed? I've never had it pop into my head that I was going to get stabbed by my poles because they were so close to me.

If you know how to ski properly, you should know that having your hands by your side is a bad time. Hand out front, but close to you, aggressive stance, forward body. Keep your hands outfront. Regardless of poles or no poles.

I see half the kids out there who can ski park with their little poles, but when they go into bigger terrain, they just drag them around. You can use your poles to plant and initiate your turns, this makes it a lot easier to ski and gives you bonus points in your aggression.


I have been "training" someone recently for more big mountain terrain, first thing I noticed, she didn't use her poles. She let them drag, kept them far away to the side. She had trouble turning in the steeper and deeper sections of the hill. After finally drilling it into her that you keep your hands outfront and initiate the turns with your poles, you're able to ski much better.





As for skiing no poles, you should instinctively have your hands out front, and this should also come from using poles. Don't be dragging your hands unless you really have to punch in that turn.
This could go different for park, and I feel it does. No poles in park, you have more freedom, but I still see people that go all Ricky Bobby on us and don't know what to do with their hands. I generally keep them in front, this is instinct from using poles.
Jan 22 2012 2:42AM
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Bill.Nye
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I sense CSIA in this one.
Jan 22 2012 2:49AM
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Jibbidy
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Really? I just sense someone that knows how to fucking ski, not just pop around in the park.
Jan 22 2012 3:27AM
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Nikkekoivisto
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Jan 22 2012 6:20AM
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Monsieur_Patate
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Hahaha, too bad you are at 10 already.
Jan 22 2012 6:42AM
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james6345789
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Ummm I can't think of a single no pro that's good without poles
Jan 22 2012 10:29AM
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jamodeo
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Kieran McVeigh proves this but, poles make skiing easier
Jan 22 2012 10:40AM
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corn.husk.hero.
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12 year old logic
Jan 22 2012 10:45AM
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*Dos*Planker*
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i lost
Jan 22 2012 10:49AM
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Utard
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If you're talking about actually skiing on REAL MOUNTAINS WITH REAL SNOW then poles definitely help out with your style and form. I feel like a fucking idiot riding around with my hands out front with no poles i'll pretty much subconsciously pole plant until I realize I look like a dumbass. I still like them in the park too so I don't run over people's skis in the lift line like a gaper.
Jan 22 2012 10:49AM
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Bill.Nye
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Possibly. I learned most of my skiing by taking PSIA certification courses
Jan 22 2012 3:34PM
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rudager
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I'm not certified or have anything like that, I just know what I'm doing and didn't get into park until last year
Jan 22 2012 3:44PM
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Swaggermager
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Well do you ride strictly park? Because where I am thats all there is to do and no poles for me is just more convenient, especially when filming. When I ride anything more than park I use poles though. I feel like if you are good with poles you can be the same if not better (grabs) without them.
Jan 22 2012 5:05PM
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