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On3p Caylor help.

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_Jeffrey_
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I'm probably gonna buy Caylors next year when i have the money. My only question is what size to get. I'm 5'11 and 130 pounds. i also hear they ride short. should i go with the 181's (that is what i was thinking) or the 191's? i ski everything from trees to groomers some cliffs, i'm looking for a pow oriented ski
Jan 21 2012 1:06AM
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iggyskier
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If you are in Oregon you should probably just come by the factory and demo the 181 and 191 to see which one you will like best. Demos are free, we just need you to bring your boot and if you are under 18, have a parent there to sign our liability waiver.
Jan 21 2012 1:27AM
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_Jeffrey_
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thanks for the reply. i was thinking of doing that. i'm guessing that you work for them? if so are you guys coming out to demo day at meadows?
Jan 21 2012 1:29AM
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iggyskier
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Yeah we will be at the meadows demo day, but that isn't until March 18th, so if you want to try them before, give us a call at the factory. 503-206-5909.
Jan 21 2012 1:40AM
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Deviate
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I'm roughly the same height as you, I went with the 191. I do not regret the choice, they ski very well for me at that length!
Jan 21 2012 3:16AM
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_Jeffrey_
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Are they to long to ski in trees?
Jan 21 2012 6:01PM
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Literature
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A little more work, yes.

I agree with Scott: you should just demo them. You're tall, so that would make me think the 191, but light, so I'd go towards the 181. But ultimately, if you're in Portland, go check out the factory, demo them up, and then make your call.
Jan 21 2012 10:26PM
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Deviate
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Was in Niseko for a week or so not too long ago, well known for it's tree skiing. I spent a lot of time in there and I wasn't thinking the skis should be shorter at anytime. But I've heard that the billy goat is a more tree specific ski than the caylors. Maybe look into those as well? I say if your in doubt, go longer anyway, it seems to be far more common to wish that you had a longer ski than a shorter one. But since you are close to the factory might as well stop by. :)
Jan 21 2012 10:57PM
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Blake.P
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I'm your height and about 30 l s heavier and I got the 181. Honestly I wish I had gotten the 191, sometimes the 181 feels a bit short
Jan 22 2012 4:19AM
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Casual.
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im 6' 1" 180lbs and i have the 181's. they are perfect, but that is just the size ski that i like. i dont think that the 191's would be too big but the size i have is perfect
Jan 23 2012 2:08AM
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[J_Gasper]
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Im still kind of confused on why they dont make something like a 186 or so. Then like a 195 for those big guys.... Oh well
Jan 23 2012 7:42AM
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.cam.
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Me too. I really wish they made the jeffery in a 195 or even a 191 though. Id buy that in a second.
Jan 23 2012 9:39AM
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Session
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They don't make a 195 because for every 10 people who say they would buy that length, only 1 comes through. Honestly there is no need for the Caylor to be any longer. And setting my 191 Caylors next to a 186 Jeffery, there is not that huge of a difference. If you can ski a 186, you can ski a 191.

As far as the Jeffery, 186 is perfect. So nimble, but still floats my 210 lbs.

BTW, if I had to chose 1 ski for just about everything, except for ice, I would easily chose the Jeffery.
Jan 23 2012 10:20AM
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Justo8484
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spot on about the jeffrey. i got to ski mine in about 8" of fresh on saturday and they were a blast. definitely not as 'floaty' to slow speeds as my seths were, but so much more stable at speed and in sketchier terrain, and even easier to maneuver in the trees. with a sharp edge they still carve groomers like a champ. for reference, i'm 6'1, about 170lbs, rockin the 186, and i feel like a 190ish, if i lived out west and not in pennsylvania, would be perfect.
Jan 23 2012 10:39AM
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[J_Gasper]
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^ worth the money you think? I live in michigan and get 10 days out west a year. Considering buying a pair for cheap..
Jan 23 2012 10:42AM
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.cam.
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The issue for me is that I am about 6 foot 5 inches 260 lbs and still consider 191 to be kind of short. I am sure they would both be fine but for me my ideal length is about 195. Do I really expect a company to make a ski that long with the exception of a big mountain charger? No because it wouldn't sell. I can dream though.
Jan 23 2012 12:06PM
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cobra_commander
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Compare a 191 Caylor to a 195 S7.

Not a whole lot of people out there who will buy a true 195 cm ski.
Jan 23 2012 12:10PM
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iggyskier
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We measure skis by their final length, where most companies measure skis by their flat material length.

So our 191cm skis are really equivalent to most companies 194cm, just FYI.

Jan 23 2012 12:15PM
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[J_Gasper]
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^ interesting. Did not know that.
Jan 23 2012 1:09PM
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TWoods
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I can totally see how that would be too short. I ski a 191, I'm 6'3 and 180, I could go longer as well.

I don't know if you're looking for a pow ski, but the Pillowfight is there. Having longer park skis and skinnier midfat twins is an option in the future.
Jan 25 2012 4:37PM
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bibs_skibum
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yep, my 191 caylors are like 4 inches longer than 189 surface LL2s
Jan 25 2012 7:42PM
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AEROPLAEHN
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I'm 6', 140-150lb and ski the 191 Caylors, -2back from center. Glad I got the 191s and glad I didn't mount any different than I did.
Jan 25 2012 8:36PM
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.nasty
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yup. my 191 c&d's are the same length as my friends 195 akjj's.
Jan 25 2012 9:19PM
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Dirty.Harry.
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Get 191s. I'm 5'8"/175 and I ski on the 181s for my AT setup. They seem a tad short but they still absolutely rip in the backcountry. I also center mounted them though...as I do with all my skis.

It's such a sick ski though...you can't go wrong.
Jan 25 2012 10:50PM
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