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Can my burning thighs be fixed by adjusting the forward lean?

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Mag
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quite often if I go fast down even a green my thighs will often start burning(have to avoid a lot of rocks as there's a TINY amount of snow where I live, barely enough to open), could this be fixed by adjusting the forward lean on my boots?(hot doggers currently with 2MM) and if so would it be better to put them forwards or back? or should I take a lesson with an instructor to get my stance right? and how many lessons(in hours) do you think it'll take to get my stance sorted?
Jan 19 2012 2:19PM
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Blurst
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You must just have weak legs.
Jan 19 2012 3:09PM
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Mag
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great, haha
Jan 19 2012 4:09PM
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ShredAZ
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Time to hit the gym.
Lack of strength/endurance in your thighs is what's causing the burning.
Jan 19 2012 4:19PM
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Mag
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weird, because I wouldn't say I was below average physically, it wouldn't be my technique at all?
Jan 19 2012 4:30PM
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Simmo
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Hard to gauge your skiing technique from just your typing skills.

But yeah, if your legs are burning while cruising green runs you probably need to change that technique.
Jan 19 2012 4:51PM
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Mag
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also I forgot to mention, I've only had it happen on that run, I've done blacks/reds and been fine :S.
Jan 19 2012 4:53PM
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rozboon
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Are you sure you're not just back-seating like crazy? Gotta throw it out there... if you're centred on your skis it shouldn't happen.
Jan 19 2012 5:10PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Usually, burning thighs are a symptom of your hips being too far back. Doesn't necessarily mean your in the back seat, but its a good chance. If your tucking when you feel the burn, try leaning obscenely far forward with your shoulders. If it happens when your just shredding, its probably a back seat thing.

If you have center mounted skis, that is the culprit. Leaning farther forward will make you feel off balance, because it puts your center of mass past the center of the ski. So you end up in the backseat, or at least in a position that puts more stress on your thighs/knees.

So... to fix the problem, you will need to visualize your shoulders, knees, and toes all in a vertical line. If your shoulders are behind your knees or toes, your doing it wrong. If that doesn't fix it, hit the gym.
Jan 19 2012 5:10PM
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Rachy
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exactly above.

This happens to me when I come off a steep onto flattish terrain. I have to lean a bit back on my center mounted skis so I don't tomahawk down steep terrain, then I'm cruising super fast, land on some flatter stuff and am further back than where I should be. I usually just sit all the way back on my tails and stand back up. Readjusts me nicely and stretches the legs for a second. The only happens on my center mounted skis (BTW).


Jan 19 2012 7:57PM
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onenerdykid
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this, and also could be if your boot is too soft for you. When I get tired, I can just lean into the front of my boot for support and it does the work. If your boot is too soft (with normal forward lean), you have to hold yourself up, thus your quads will burn.
Jan 20 2012 6:47AM
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Mag
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well ive got a ft #6 flex, and im 145lbs 5'8". i was recommended o get 4 but went for 6,
Jan 20 2012 10:48AM
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ShredAZ
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Well said. Good advice.
Jan 20 2012 1:45PM
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seanzy96
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no thats a symptom of lactic acid build up from your legs fighting the pow. get a wider easier pow ski or hit the gym and do mega squats. you could always take a supplement that tells your body to not build up lastic acid. the products is called sport legs
Jan 20 2012 5:32PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Shut up... just stop. If you had bothered to read the OP, you would have noticed he wasn't skiing in pow.

Also, I can ski pow on snowblades without leaning back, its a form issue, not an equipment or fitness issue.
Jan 20 2012 6:05PM
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VD.
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go to the gym and start working out, not meaning to be a dick but it sounds like you aren't fit enough
Jan 20 2012 6:08PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
STFU.

Its a form problem, not a fucking fitness or gear problem, take some time to read a thread before you think and type.

BTW, your calves, and not your thighs, should be sore first...

P.S. I had a 70 year old client the other day who could rip better than most of you, and she was weak as hell. She has great form though.
Jan 20 2012 6:18PM
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DIX~
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Lean more towards the front of your skis.. Sounds like the typical park rat back seat style is getting you
Jan 20 2012 6:55PM
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Mag
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i would hardly say park rat, haha i wish! only started skiing park a week ago maybe
Jan 20 2012 7:01PM
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Boooshank
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I saw the shims for my boots yesterday and thought about how more forward lean would affect the fatigue.

I get pain in (and i had to google the actual muscle) Vastus medials part of my quads. Rest of my quads are good all day, just specifically painful close to where the muscle starts near my kneecaps on both legs.

I'd like to think my form was good, forward lean and all that. Anyone else get the same pain? Am i doing it wrong?

Apologies on the threadjack.
Jan 20 2012 7:08PM
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Rachy
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In that case... my guess is that your skis aren't center mounted. The center mount is what throws me back seat.

My guess is you are standing too tall or dragging your polls in the sense that you don't actually know how to use them. My apologizes if you do, but you can usually tell people in lazy stance that know how to use their poles from people in lazy stance cause they don't know how to use their polls.

If you do know how to use your poles, do a few runs keeping them up and use them even on the flat terrain. You should notice the pain going away and they should actively keep you more forward.

If you don't know how to use them, take a lesson and say you want your primary focus to be staying forward and using your poles properly.

Once you know how to use them properly, you should get used to the stance and be able to drop them with out it throwing you back seat.
Jan 20 2012 7:48PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
That sounds like it could be worse than a form issue...

Best case scenario, your boots are too big, and your legs are doing strange things to compensate for it. Or your form is a little off.

Worst case scenario, there is something wrong with your knee.
Jan 20 2012 9:04PM
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T.L.
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simple.  go to the gym and leg press 800lbs. for a few days straight.  you'll be good to go dude!
Jan 20 2012 10:36PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
fuck you too... READ THE THREAD!
Jan 20 2012 11:09PM
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T.L.
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take it easy chief...SARCASM!

but seriously.  boots may have something to do with it but more than anything I would probably think it could be solved with some conditioning and regular stretching.  out of all the tweaking i've done with my boots I've never noticed any muscle pain from different settings.  but then again everyone is different so who knows.   good luck broo.
Jan 21 2012 3:31PM
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Poikenz
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I will get a burning sensation in my knees if I have been skiing non-stop all day and it has snowed in the last couple days. I attribute it to as everyone said, having my skis center mounted, having a very soft flex in my boots and charging hard on groomers that have been turned into fields of moguls.
Jan 21 2012 4:54PM
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timoy
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Man you've got issues. Do you have bipolar or something?
Jan 22 2012 1:34AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
yeah, I take pills for it too, you have a problem?

But seriously, nobody reads the thread, and everyone is retarded.
Jan 22 2012 2:37AM
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seanzy96
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dude. fist an foremost you are an asshole. snowblades? seriously? you are lame and a social reject. obviously you suck at whatever skiing you are doing. try knitting
Feb 1 2012 4:09PM
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Mag
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ok thanks guys it all sorted itself out, It was definately my technique, cheers!
Feb 1 2012 4:17PM
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I_Am_Mod
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just out of curiosity, who else enjoys the feeling of burning thighs ?

i just love shredding hard, bombing an entire mountain top to bottom till my thighs are on fire :P
Feb 1 2012 4:29PM
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[~_~]
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Skiing with your weight centered over the balls of your feet, with your hands in front of your knees will solve 90% of "boot problems." The other 10% solved by getting a properly fitting boot with an appropriate flex.
Feb 1 2012 5:54PM
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Myfirstname.
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Smart man^^^
Feb 1 2012 10:44PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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:D

Thanks!
Feb 1 2012 11:20PM
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J_MAC
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you must be a pussy... get in shape
Feb 2 2012 5:50AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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lol... READ THE THREAD.
Feb 2 2012 8:10AM
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T.L.
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Hell yeah dude!  That's how you know you're doing it right.  Thighs on fire!  <---------------  sounds like a warren miller movie.
Feb 3 2012 2:01PM
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schmies
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Exercise.
Feb 3 2012 5:52PM
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Mag
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thread finished, some of the people here are clearly stupider than I am on the subject.
Feb 3 2012 5:57PM
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