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U of U and UW-Madison

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WILKSNAYDLER
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So I'm graduating this spring and I got a decision to make. I've lived in Madison, WI my whole life and I don't love it here, but I do like the university and I'm close to my family and what not. On the other hand I just visited Utah and it was sick! Close to shreddin and a good school and nice campus. Only thing I'm worried about is that it is soooo far away, and is Utah more of a commuter campus? Seemed to me like not many people live on campus or in the dorms. I just want a full college experience ya know? I want a lot of people to live on campus. Hows everyone like it? Advice, opinions, etc....
Jan 9 2012 10:50PM
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Alex_G
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if you want a good mix between the 2 try CU Boulder
Jan 9 2012 11:12PM
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PJS.
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Why the fuck would you not love madison.
Jan 9 2012 11:13PM
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Mr.Capone
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this
Jan 9 2012 11:18PM
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Travapple.
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UW. You will not be disappointed.
Jan 9 2012 11:18PM
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sconniestyle
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madison is rad. very fun city. but it takes you the same amount of time to drive to tyrol as it does for me to get to any of the 4 cottonwood resorts, and i live as far downtown as you can get.


Jan 9 2012 11:25PM
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WILKSNAYDLER
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Cant afford CU and im just sick of madison and the people. Love the city and the achool though, dont gwt me wrong.
Jan 9 2012 11:31PM
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WILKSNAYDLER
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school*
Jan 9 2012 11:31PM
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PJS.
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Still though. Midwest people are some of teh most legit...
Jan 9 2012 11:33PM
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WILKSNAYDLER
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Midwest people yes, Madison people.....ehhh? Just my opinion.
Jan 9 2012 11:43PM
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eheath
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you will get a full college experience at Utah and youlll be able to ski more than you could ever imagine
Jan 9 2012 11:54PM
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OnePlank
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UW is regarded much higher as an academic institution i believe, if you're thinking about that side of it. It also is fucking sick. Madison is awesome. I don't much about U of U though.
Jan 10 2012 12:03AM
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el_mn_op
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I kinda know how you feel about not wanting to go to Madison. I live in MN and really like the U of M Minneapolis, but half my school will go there, and its nothing new. I feel like college is a good time to go live somewhere else and experience something different, but once you get out of state shit gets expensive. It almost feels like a waste of an opportunity to just stay put though.

poop.

Jan 10 2012 12:13AM
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sconniestyle
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actually, in many fields including portions of the medical school, the U and UW are considered similarly prestigious. in other areas, such as chemistry and development of startup companies from graduate research, the u is actually superior.

madison is an awesome school, has some great and cutting edge research coming out of it, and has a terrific reputation in and out of academic circles, but i am similarly comfortable saying the same things about the U.

as someone who has been in both the u of w and u of u systems, they are, to me, overall academically equivalent as far as any class i've taken, and regionally carry the same prestige and opportunities for advancement as well as tons of post bachelor degree opportunities.

choosing between simply the schools is closer than one might think, but you can't forget about how awesome living in the mountains is. i moved to slc from madison and it was the best thing i ever did, no matter how much i love wisco.
Jan 10 2012 1:10AM
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whoa-dere
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i loved it while i was there
Jan 10 2012 1:16AM
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thelizards
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i would say go to madison
Jan 10 2012 1:18AM
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shocker611
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one vote for utah.. im from ohio and although i love my family and friends back home, I would never give up my life out here. Plus it just makes it that much sweeter when I come home and see my family and party with my friends at OSU. I really didnt want to be with all the same kids from high school and meeting new people has been a great thing. I was actually looking at UW in addition to the U and chose the U and couldnt be happier. And like people have said above, there are a bunch of areas where the U is superior academically.
Jan 10 2012 1:24AM
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.Natty.
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All I know is engineering and UW is wayy higher in that regard, it all depends on what OP is majoring in
Jan 10 2012 1:49AM
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cobra_commander
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minus the good education part...
Jan 10 2012 2:46AM
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eheath
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thats all depended on your field of study billy. The U is slowly becoming more and more creditable every year, they don't just let every dip shit in anymore.
Jan 10 2012 2:51AM
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shocker611
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the U's biomed engineering department is more respected than UW's..
Jan 10 2012 1:12PM
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scratchproteen
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Go to UW and watch your football team choke in every meaningful game. hahaha fuck the badgers.
Jan 10 2012 2:01PM
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scratchproteen
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but for real the U of U is a sweet place, got a couple buddies down there and spent a week with em last march it was such a good time.
Jan 10 2012 2:02PM
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CoolioDude
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The U of U is not the "full" college experience. it's mainly a commuter campus, with the vast majority living off-campus. which sucks, but there are cool people that live in the dorms. If anyone is arguing/buttering up that the U of U is even close academically to UW Madison, that's so unbelievably comical i can hardly stand it. UW Madison is far more superior than the U of U, or even any Utah college. UW Madison is a great school, and is also unbelievably fun. But, the skiing at Tyrol is lack-luster when comparing it to Utah. So it totally depends on what you're looking for. If you are looking to ski, get a decent education, and have a pretty mediocre overall college experience, i would recommend the U of U. If you're looking to have not very great skiing, an amazing education, and a pretty fucking awesome overall college experience, i would recommend UW Madison.

cheers,



michael.
Jan 10 2012 3:52PM
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eheath
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What are all of your opinions based off of? Have you gone to school in utah? telling people that the U of U is not a full college experience and that its a mediocre over all college experience is so fucking ignorant. College is what you make it, you could go to any school in the country and if you don't try to meet new people, don't try to go to parties or try to have a college experience then you won't have a full college experience.
Jan 10 2012 4:15PM
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CoolioDude
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i actually did go to the U of U. and yeah it was fun and all, and college is what you make of it. But i am COMPARING these two schools. have you ever visited UW Madison? i bet not. and if you have visited these schools, you would be smart enough to not even argue that UW Madison has better academics and the FULL college experience. And by FULL i mean that it is much more fun of a school then the U of U. I am not saying that the U of U is not fun. i am saying that when you compare it to a school like UW Madison, it's hardly a comparison.
Jan 10 2012 4:40PM
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eheath
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You went? for how long?

and like I said before, college is what you make it. I'd be willing to bet there are kids at u of u who have more fun than some at uw, it just depends on who you are and how you make your college experience. It sounds like you had an "ok" time at utah but liked uw because they have a much larger night/party scene. Thats fine, i have a few good buddies from madison and i have friends who go their to party with friends and shit alot, i know how good uw is for partying. i will say that uw probably does have utah on academics is 90% of the fields, but again, if you want to learn alot about your given field, you can learn just as much at the best school in the country as the worst, its how you apply yourself. The only benefit is having uw on your resume vs utah but in cases like mine, that doesn't matter. But, college isn't all about partying and the level of academics, which is what you seem to be making it into.
Jan 10 2012 4:51PM
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Wis_Skier_23
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because the gophers are really tearing it up lately, and I think you forgot what happened last year
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Jan 10 2012 4:53PM
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WILKSNAYDLER
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This. And im not a huge partier. So that part i could care less about and i feel like i can have a good time either place. Major will probably be business.
Jan 10 2012 5:35PM
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n_b
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easy now..
Jan 10 2012 6:22PM
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Alex_G
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the U is perfect for you then.
Jan 10 2012 6:33PM
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.Natty.
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...thats one discipline out of a lot, overall their engineering school is way higher ranked and more respected... like I said in my first post it all depends on what hes studying
Jan 10 2012 6:37PM
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shocker611
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ahh i missread, thought you said all engineering at UW was better, my bad. But since the OP is going business yeah the U would be perfect
Jan 10 2012 6:41PM
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cobra_commander
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I needed another laugh, thank you...
Jan 10 2012 7:47PM
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eheath
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How the fuck would you know billy?
Jan 10 2012 7:51PM
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shocker611
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HAHAHAHAHAH.. please tell me that you honestly dont think that you know more than me considering I was on the verge of going to both schools and did extensive research on the matter. I'm sure an absolute expert on the subject but I assure you I know what I'm talking about.. The U has been highly, highly respected for the past 3 decades in biomed and you obviously don't know what youre talking about
Jan 10 2012 8:06PM
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cobra_commander
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Maybe there is a discrepancy in how we define 'well respected,' but I define it as producing high quality, critically thinking and productive enginerds.

There is a reason enginerds from other schools look to Utah for jobs, it is because Utah schools produce hardly any enginerds that stack up against other schools.
Jan 10 2012 9:59PM
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BlackCupid
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Madison is much more respected academically, and it's probably more fun as well. I'd only go to Utah if skiing is your number one priority.
Jan 10 2012 10:09PM
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eheath
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All these things you are saying sound great, but as far as I know you're making up every word.
Jan 10 2012 10:25PM
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WILKSNAYDLER
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i live in madison and if theres one field that the UW takes huge pride in and is known to be great in, its engineering.
Jan 10 2012 10:37PM
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blatt
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Other guy's right; Utah has a very rigorous biomed. My source being US News, UW is indeed the better biomed, but Utah's program beats out Harvard, USC, UCLA, UCI, And several of the other Ivy League schools. They also have one of the best pre-med/medical programs in the nation.

Everyone on here thinks that Utah is a plain retarded school because of all the skiers on here that go into business, sociology, communications, and other majors which are easy. Plenty of brilliant people come of the U, it's just that NS perceives that Utah is full of Riders wasting their parent's money to ski in Utah and party.
Jan 10 2012 10:51PM
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blatt
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sorry for dub post but......



lol rosebowl lol SCO DUCKS
Jan 10 2012 10:52PM
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shocker611
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the one thing about US news too is that they don't take into account research, which is what elevates the U's biomed/premed programs. You talk to a lot of the best med/phd schools and they will talk about the emphasis of the U's research. However, the skiing/partying is aight too
Jan 10 2012 11:31PM
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cobra_commander
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My used toilet paper provides a higher level of journalism than US News...
Jan 10 2012 11:33PM
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blatt
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I lol'd. please provide a better source that ranks colleges and grad schools.
Jan 10 2012 11:34PM
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cobra_commander
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My arbitrary opinion

My list of da good schools went like this in no particular order:
Cal Tech
M.I.T.
U.B.C.
CU Boulder (applied, accepted, glad I didn't go)
UW (WA, where I go, studding AA)
GA Tech
W.S.U. (instate and underrated if you stay out of the party/frat bullshit)

Obviously that is a far from inclusive list, but they were the ones I was interested in. Utards did not even blip on the

I chose U.W. for Aero/Astro program, Seattle, and skiing. I was very interested in G.T. but decided I had enough of GA (even though Atlanta is 100x better than Columbus).

While an M.I.T. transcript obviously carries a ton of weight, I was worried about it being full of over competitive asswipes from the east coast, and would probably want to go on a killing rampage in bean town before the first year was up.

U.B.C. is in CA which does not respect my right to kill fuckers, so I said fuck that.

W.S.U. was tempting, and I like the area (Family has land on Moscow Mt.) but there is a lack of skiing within 2 hours, and no AA program.

Cal Tech was ranking high on my list, and my Dad went there, but I was worried about it being too nerd heavy, and I hate the Peoples Democratic Republic of Southern California and want to give it back to Mexico, a view it is hard to have when you live there.

C.U. Boulder was just too expensive for what it offered compared to the others.
Jan 10 2012 11:54PM
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eheath
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this is where your facts(opinions) become completely unreliable.
Jan 10 2012 11:59PM
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blatt
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I can respect your list of top schools, but to say that Utah is a shitty school is utter bull shit. Looking specifically at engineering, you are right. Looking at bioengineering and pre-med, I would say Utah fits in that mix of schools.

I would also say that I'm pretty jelly you're at UW, that's my dream school but it would be a reach for me to get accepted and I never took the ACT with the writing section.
Jan 11 2012 12:05AM
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shocker611
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utards? really? I got a 34 on my act, going into my sophomore year of hs, ended up with a perfect superscore. 3.97 unweighted gpa in hs, 6 varsity letters in high school. I got into Yale, UW, and Utah (didn't get into Duke unfortunately, shoulda done early admit). I was getting paid to go to utah, do research as a freshman, and be able to do amazing research all through college. I dont know why you conceive yourself as being better than an entire school but you may wanna look at yourself and rethink your opinions. You have to give credit where credit it deserved, if youre talking research, the U deserves a lot of it, if youre talking anything to do with the medical field, you have to give utah credit, if youre talking business, again utah deserves credit. I understand where the notion that it is a shitty school comes from, but the facts just don't line up
Jan 11 2012 1:24AM
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blatt
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^^Well fuck I feel retarded now haha
Jan 11 2012 1:31AM
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cobra_commander
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I don't give a fuck. I also got laid last week.
Jan 11 2012 1:33AM
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