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My job is making me work overnights

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FreeWilley
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So I was hired for a valet positing up and Park City Utah back in October for full time/full season. When I was hired, there was NO mention of me having to work overnights. Before I took the job, I had two other job opportunities for the ski season. I decided to take the valet job at the hotel and told the other two places that I had found other work. Four days into this valet job I find out that I'm working a few overnights. At this point I had already committed to the hotel, and had told the other places I would not be working for them. I sucked the overnights up because they said it was just going to be temporary. So about a month after I was hired, they finally hired a new overnight. But they hired someone with two other fricken jobs AND kids, and paid her $8.50!!!!! During they day valeting cars, we tend to bring in over a $100 in tips making the job well worth it. Overnight however is lucky to make $20 in tips on a good night. So obviously the new overnight lady quit after a month. So now we are stuck doing overnights again. This is BS. Overnight is a separate job. If they told me I would have to work some overnights before they hired me, I NEVER would have taken this job because I have 3 loud roommates and there is no way I could ever sleep during the day. I would LOVE to just quit this job, but I live in a ski town and at this point, it would be very hard to find a new job. So basically I'm wondering if I have any sort of workers rights or is it perfectly legal for them to hire you, not mention that you might have to work overnights, and then start having you work overnights? Any info would be appreciated because I plan on talking to HR and would like to know my workers rights and all.
Jan 5 2012 12:32AM
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soulskier
Posts: 17806 - Karma: 3,841
cant say i know much about worker's rights, a job is a job though. chances are they are within their rights on this one, any chance of getting the jobs you originally turned down?
Jan 5 2012 12:35AM
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gotti
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cry me a river

heres the solution

walk into ur bosses office and yell "bitch i just peed in ur motherfucking ugly ass dipshit wife's butt, how do you feel?"

then walk out
Jan 5 2012 12:38AM
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PopsicleStand
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ALL shitty jobs do this to ALL their workers ALL the time.

figure a way to leave and make them want you or suck it up-we all do it.
Jan 5 2012 12:42AM
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JakeAssBeatClap
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Ok this was good until he said what you should do once in your bosses office.

go in and say hey sir so i started the job you guys said i'd be working these hours and i was fine i had 2 other job opportunities but i chose this one because i like how you guys run things. I was put on a few overnights which i sucked up and did because i was told that they were temporary but i'm still getting put on them and honestly i'm just fed up. I wasn't hired to work nights. You have people hired for overnights. What can we do about this?

He may tell you to go pound sand but it's worth a try.
Jan 5 2012 12:45AM
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fujarome
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it's called working your way up. You're at the bottom, so you get the shit jobs.
Jan 5 2012 12:46AM
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Shireshredder
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Are you for real? Everyone knows that the best jobs in ski towns are overnight jobs. Working overnight=more skiing during daylight hours!
Jan 5 2012 12:56AM
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.Hugo.
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If it really bothers you this is probably the best advice you can get. Otherwise just do what you have been doing and push through it.
Jan 5 2012 12:58AM
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lineskier10
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would you like some cheese with that wine?
Jan 5 2012 1:00AM
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Captain_Slow
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sleeping is pretty overrated anyway
Jan 5 2012 1:28AM
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TheStamos
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never ever stop looking for a better job.
Jan 5 2012 3:38AM
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VT_scratch
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thats annoying man. kinda similar situation happened to me over the summer. I was working construction and told it would be 10-12hour shifts mon-friday. Then they slowly added on Saturdays. And then by the end of the summer sometimes I was working 7 days a week for 10-12 hour shifts, and for a college kid trying to have some relaxing time during summer, DAMN that was a fucking bitch.
Jan 5 2012 11:14AM
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SterlingArcher
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this.  i make snow graveyard shift and its the shit plus lots of time to shred during the day and i still get 7 hours of sleep a night.

the only downside is your missing out on the bars, but thats only a 4 nights a week.

Jan 5 2012 11:45AM
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Mike-O
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Don't you have a work contract? What are the terms listed in it?
Jan 5 2012 11:47AM
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scratchproteen
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whine a little more why don't ya.
Jan 5 2012 12:10PM
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pinkbikes222
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tell your roommates to shut the fuck up?

tell your boss that this isn't what he promised you for hours and you'll quit if it doesn't change?

stop being a pussy and speak up?
Jan 5 2012 1:04PM
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SterlingArcher
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^ agreed

Jan 5 2012 1:08PM
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.Blake.
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this and just be happy you have a job
Jan 5 2012 1:17PM
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iSmokeweed
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it is with in your rights to choose your hours after you are hired. if you dont want to work overnight you can tell your manager that prefer working the late night. youll still probably work overnight a few nights, but your manager is required to listen to you.
Jan 5 2012 1:20PM
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Mike-O
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He can also fire him if he doesn't do what the manager wants.
Jan 5 2012 1:22PM
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pat_in_the_hat
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Try hard labor for 16 hours a day, 14 days in a row. Sleeping in a tent the whole time. Then Two days off. Then doing it all over again. Suck it up
Jan 5 2012 2:02PM
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Mike-O
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I think it's pretty dumb to compare one's own experiences to someone else's and try to shit on them for not doing something as "hardcore" for a buck that you've done.

Jan 5 2012 2:15PM
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pinkbikes222
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try taking hard dicks in the ass, splooge on your face and sucking cock for 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, two days off then doing it all over again. suck it up. Click for larger image
Jan 5 2012 2:20PM
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InFlames
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Unless they expressly stated you may have to work overnights when they hired you, they're in the wrong. You're doing them a favor by working your overnight shifts, so talk to your boss and say that it really doesn't work with your schedule, if he says well then you're gone. You take his ass to the labor board.


good luck brudduh
Jan 5 2012 2:24PM
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collinder
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first world problems
Jan 5 2012 2:25PM
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PopsicleStand
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OH. MY. GOD. LAUGH OUT LOUD

you know he parks cars right? all ya'll rich kids need to learn something here. as far as you are concerned, there IS NO "labor board." Are you fucking kidding? His boss can make him work whatever shift he pleases, and if the kid doesn't like it he can leave. Get some leverage yourself, or man up and work.
Jan 5 2012 2:28PM
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Mike-O
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Like I said, does he even have a work contract... Never even heard of something like "He didn't say anything about working nights when he hired me so he's wrong..."

Black and white, do you have it?
Jan 5 2012 2:30PM
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InFlames
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For wrongful termination foo.


Maybe it varies from state to state, but where I lived they were pretty pro-worker.
Jan 5 2012 2:34PM
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howlongcanausern
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I'm going to assume for a job that pays less than 8.50 an hour there is not a contract.

OP needs needs to talk to his boss to try and get his hours changed, if that doesn't work, find a new job
Jan 5 2012 2:34PM
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PopsicleStand
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Mike, you are from Europe right? I understand that generally they are more civil about things like this there, so through my eyes, this is Black and White. Functionally, he has very little recourse, and its probably much more useful for him to think about getting what he needs however HE can go about it, without using something like a "labor board."

His contract is more than like this. At will employment. Boom. Done. This is how many blue collar jobs are across the country. Forgot about it in a ski town. If he goes to his boss (who seems to not care about the employee's wants and needs already) and complains, the boss goes "too bad." If he wants to make grandiose threats, thats fine, but now he is fired, because he is in an at-will position with tons of other people ready to take his hours. Sure, thats illegal right? Doesn't help OP though, cause the one in a million chance someone wants to investigate (GASP!) workers-rights violation in a ski town valet position won't happen for him. Either way, he needs to eat tonight though, and a year long investigation wouldn't help him with a paycheck anyhow.

I'm just trying to be realistic, not aggressive. Sorry, but some of the ideas of how a workforce actually operates around here are laughable.

OP needs to be proactive about getting what he needs, or just suck it up. Working overnight is not the end of the world. I do it, 7pm to 7am.
Jan 5 2012 2:42PM
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iSmokeweed
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a manager can not just fire someone because they feel the need to. asking for certain hours is not uncommon, and no where near grounds for being fired. if your manager deos fire you, a simple meeting with BBB would solve everything.


Jan 5 2012 2:43PM
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PopsicleStand
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Sorry to the dude I posted "U mad?" style, but I really rankle at the richies and young'uns around here sometimes. I'm trying to be honest here, and stuff like "tell the labor board" just makes me roll my eyes so hard they almost fall out of my head.

So no hard feelings.
Jan 5 2012 2:45PM
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PopsicleStand
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A manager can just fire someone "just because" 99.9% of the time. Do you think the employee has never done anything remotely wrong ever? Clock in one minute late before? Boom. Done.

Also, do you know the function and power of the BBB?
Jan 5 2012 2:48PM
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Mike-O
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I think it's very rare that anyone in Finland (other than grey market/undeclared stuff) would do a day of work without a contract. Our "at-will" limits to the first four months of employment, when you can be fired for.. I don't know, looking ugly for all they care. No reasons needed during that time, just.. you're out. Unless you can claim it's racist/religious/gender-specific, nothing you can do.

I understand this coming to a lot of these threads for discussion, and it's good to learn about other countries' work operations.
Jan 5 2012 2:49PM
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PopsicleStand
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Yeah, I absolutely know what you are talking about. I have read about other country's workers rights and its pretty interesting.

For sure in the states though things are slightly different.

By the way, I am not a lawyer (obviously) and not even an expert. I am a realist though, and I would like to think I am pretty savvy with the common sense enough to get what I need with as little effort/problem as possible.
Jan 5 2012 2:52PM
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B.Aussie
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It's similar in Australia. Except for small businesses (Under 250 employees) You can be terminated within the first 6 months for very little reasons. After that you need 3 formal warnings before a termination. Majority of jobs come with some kind of contract even part time once a week jobs.

Jan 5 2012 5:24PM
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Mike-O
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How does that work? Do you know if it's possible to get three formal warnings in one day :D ?
Jan 5 2012 5:27PM
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B.Aussie
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I don't think so haha But if they don't have 3 formal, documented warnings or have clearly breached their contract or company policy than they can sue for wrongful termination, then it takes years to actually go through apparently.
Jan 5 2012 5:39PM
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cobra_commander
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I think the best thing in this situation Is to stop feeling sorry for yourself. Plenty of people work night shifts, some by choice, some by financial necessity. It honestly does not take a phd to figure out that a valet job might require you to work through the night some times. Sometimes (re: ALWAYS) it pays to do a little research into the business/position you are signing up for. Stop being a bitch, either deal with it or quit, but don't whine to others about it. Whiners are worthless sacks of shit that do this country more harm than congress.

Labor Depatrment? What the fuck is that bullshit. Sounds like one more government bull shit to help those who are too scared or lazy to help themselves.

In other news, go fill out a hurt feelings report, probably want to check the "I didn't sign up for this box."

What a waste of real peoples time

Same thing goes for the noisy room mates, have you tried asking them to be quite?
Jan 5 2012 6:07PM
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