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*coop*
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So, my home mountain's park is pretty good. right now we have a nice set up with 6 rails and a 20 foot table. the only thing is, i really wanna progress this year, like flips and stuff, but there are no inverts at my mountain. and dont say "just dont get caught by ski pattrol" cause thats hard to do because they can see from two lifts and the park crew cracks down hard. anyways, i was wondering what i can try to do to progress. i can 7 blunt/mute (claim) and i wanna learn corks. so any tips for not making them inverted the first time, cause when i first tried them they were inverted.
Dec 31 2011 6:58PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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technically, corks aren't inverts. that what kids said to ski patrol at my hill and they got away with it.
Dec 31 2011 7:00PM
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TheClap.
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Dec 31 2011 7:01PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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blank post wut ^^
Dec 31 2011 7:04PM
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EmperorKuzco
Posts: 6660 - Karma: 254
a flat 3 is not an invert.
Dec 31 2011 7:06PM
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DGski
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yeah my old hill had this rule but rodeo 5's were accepted
Dec 31 2011 7:08PM
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BASEDRILEY
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KILL DE PATROLES
Dec 31 2011 7:11PM
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skiingpimp
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Dinner Roll that shit
Dec 31 2011 7:14PM
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tskilz
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ha funny

Dec 31 2011 7:21PM
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Lemuel
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At my mountain, you can go inverted as long as there is at least a 180 in it. I still sent some backies though, fuck the police. You can always say "I caught an edge / I didn't mean to / I did a handplant." The no inverts rule is such bullshit.
Dec 31 2011 7:22PM
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B-Phelps
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Start a petition? enough signatures could probably do some persuasion to change the rule, instead of just getting around it, and limiting your bag of tricks.

Olympics are allowing inverts in moguls because people convinced the old farts that they aren't actually significantly more dangerous than other tricks. Maybe it'll work for you?

Good luck, that's so weak.
Dec 31 2011 7:39PM
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Chompo.
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it isnt if you do it right
Dec 31 2011 7:55PM
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.Duncan.
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i doubt that a petition would work but maybe, usually they have that type of rule because their insurance doesnt cover people getting hurt on inverts, at least thats what some park crew people have told me.
Dec 31 2011 7:57PM
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B-WASS
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...then nobody does it right



let the shit storm about what a flat 3 is commence
Dec 31 2011 8:00PM
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*coop*
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yeah its for insurance reasons
Dec 31 2011 8:00PM
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Stose
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ya at my hill its kind of an unwritten rule. there is nothing that says no inverts, but ski patrol has no problem yelling at you if you do it. Its more of a no inverts unless you are a pro rule. some kids can get away with throwing kang in front of ski patrol, and some get caught throwing a back
Dec 31 2011 8:31PM
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HumanGenius
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magic assholes
Dec 31 2011 8:50PM
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.ZT.
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nashoba has a 20 ft table????????????????
Dec 31 2011 9:12PM
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.ZT.
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fyi i ski there
Dec 31 2011 9:14PM
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j.saaaarela
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You could interpret that as meaning no backs, fronts, or lincolns... anything where you go straight over your head. so corks, rodeos, bio, misty, etc could be fine. What would patrol do anyway?
Dec 31 2011 9:19PM
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EmperorKuzco
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Are you fo cereal?
Dec 31 2011 9:20PM
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k-fred
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wow i though that my home mountains sucked but atleast i can do flip wheneveva i want... even on side slope 5 feet jump lol.
Dec 31 2011 9:21PM
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tskilz
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yes

Dec 31 2011 9:44PM
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.Max.
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What? Pics or it didn't happen. I've never seen said inverted areal maneuvers from you.
Dec 31 2011 10:26PM
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CassiusClay
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Try this, even when you're leaning, someone's bound to go inverted as fuck and likely be ok. Try to ok it with patrol, if not tell them to fuck themselves each and every time you ball out.
Dec 31 2011 10:32PM
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BrightonFridays
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I remember the first year I moved to Utah, (3 years ago) Brighton would give kids warning or pull passes for inverts but it wasn't this way last year. We have a park pass for the section that has jumps so that might have something to do with it but Im not sure. Maybe suggest the park pass so it limits that people who would be more likely to hurt themselves trying flips
Dec 31 2011 10:42PM
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skibeest
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Is this at sundown?
I guess your best bet would be to go to a mountain that allows inverts and throw it down son
Dec 31 2011 10:51PM
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Bill.Nye
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Tell them you lost control coming off the lip, accidentally got upside down, and only by the grace of god were able to bring it back around and land without being hurt.
Dec 31 2011 11:30PM
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GoggleT@n
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Yeah, my local mountain has that too, i just practice em into a pow field. build a nice little kicker and hike all day
Jan 1 2012 1:40AM
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BlackCupid
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I love it when somebody tries to be a psychic and predict a future argument, but then nobody actually cares.
Jan 1 2012 2:00AM
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Shredability
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lol no inverts
Jan 1 2012 2:52AM
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crab_pretzel
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he rite
Jan 1 2012 11:59AM
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TheGnarwhal
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Occupy Nashoba Valley Ski Area!

Jan 1 2012 12:08PM
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GORILLA.
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at my hill barely anyone does inverts cause it's a tiny gaper hill. so it's easy to not get caught cause the skipo either doesn't know it's against the rules, or doesnt see them. park crew does inverts too
Jan 1 2012 12:58PM
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QuinnBestwick
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just dont be a dick about stuff and just try to do that petition
Jan 1 2012 1:26PM
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Blindsurfer
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Jan 1 2012 1:32PM
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Blindsurfer
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same yo
Jan 1 2012 1:33PM
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freestyler540
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No inverts simply mean no front flip to backflip.

What you are allowed:
Lincoln Loops (sideflips)
corks
bios
misties
rodeo
d-spins
and the rest!
Jan 1 2012 1:40PM
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250r
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how can you possibly call lincolns and d spins not inverts
Jan 1 2012 1:42PM
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kingskier
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ask them if you can sign a contract or something saying that if you do get hurt doing them you cant sue or anything like that?
Jan 1 2012 4:08PM
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tglav95
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^^^ called out
Jan 1 2012 4:38PM
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EmperorKuzco
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an invert is when you do a full flip, a flat 3 is an off axis spin
Jan 1 2012 7:29PM
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freestyler540
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As illogical as it seems, its all in the definitions. An invert is when the feet pass over the head. In a loop, you can send it off the flip axis so your feet is 20 degrees offset from the head, so technically its legal! Same with the d-spin, since the spin offsets the angles, giving the illusion of not flipping.

In the FIS rulebook, the feet cannot be higher than the head in an off axis rotation. This bans flips, misties, rodeos, loops, baranie and d spins, unless having a qualification by a certified coach, performed under the supervision of a certified coach. Corks and bios are permitted.

Unless someone can prove me otherwise...
Jan 2 2012 3:06PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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is that for slopestyle/ half pipe or just moguls/ areials? becase if its for pipe/slopestyle i will be pissed
Jan 2 2012 3:20PM
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.ZT.
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slope style not at pro level
Jan 2 2012 4:00PM
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[evan]
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He stomped it, i was a witness.

But Peter is the 180 invert rule for MT. southington or for up north because ive never heard of that at home.
Jan 2 2012 4:16PM
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-Marc-
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I've been caught doing flat 5s twice at my hill and got in shit simply because both times the ski patrol have been below the jump and have claimed I've gone inverted when I've had video evidence that I wasn't. First time was last year where I was kicked off for the day, I got in trouble again this year and they say if I do it again I'll either have my pass taken or banned from the hill for life. It's such bullshit because my hill is finally making jumps big enough for the tricks the riders want to do, and we all get in trouble for doing tricks that other resorts have no problem with.
Jan 2 2012 4:35PM
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freestyler540
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If you are riding in a Acrobatic federation run contest (FIS) the second part of my last post applies. Im not sure about the slopestyle event for the FIS, but that is how it works in moguls and aerials.

In amateur contests and pro local slopestyle, they obey the mountain rules, which I refer you to the first part. It has to do with insurances, since mountain insurances differ from FIS insurances.
Jan 3 2012 1:42AM
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remster
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Why the fuck do they ban it. This is kind of foreign to me but in New Zealand you can do whatever you want. And you can't sue. If someone gets hurt the patrollers tell them that they were dumb to hit that jump and give them a lecture on it.

Fuck banning inverts thats kind of messed up.

My advice is to learn them at another mountain then do backflip naked to piss them off.
Dumb post on my behalf
Jan 3 2012 3:49AM
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weley
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make friends with the park crew
Jan 3 2012 2:21PM
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