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Full Tilt's Hurt My Feet!!

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Claywilliams
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So i bought a new pair this summer (Drop Kicks) and theyre my first pair of full tilts ive ever owned.
Im in utah right now skiing trees, pow and some cliffs. By the end of the day these things are killing the bottom of my feet, but thats the only part that hurts.
Ive got the stock 4 flex tounge in at the moment and theyre heat molded and fit perfectly

Are they too tight? too loose?

+k for any answers, advice or bumps
-k for being a dick

Thanks,
Clay
Dec 28 2011 6:08PM
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Balto
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....did you get properly fitted? have you molded the liner? did you put the wrong kind of footbed in?
Dec 28 2011 6:12PM
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Claywilliams
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Yeah i did everything, but whats are footbeds?
Dec 28 2011 6:15PM
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Ski.Ballet
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Custom footbeds are key.
Dec 28 2011 6:18PM
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richard.
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Inserts that can be put inside the boot.
Dec 28 2011 6:19PM
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Claywilliams
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ohhhh like orthodics or insoles
that makes so much sense thanks to all!!
plus k for all
Dec 28 2011 6:21PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Before you bought the boots, did a boot fitter look at your feet and recommend Full Tilts? Or did you buy them and get them heat molded to your feet?
Dec 28 2011 6:27PM
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Balto
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^this
Dec 28 2011 6:30PM
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steve0
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Footbeds will make a huge difference.
Dec 28 2011 6:44PM
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Horsefacekillah
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lol @ ppl that claim footbeds in full tilts its pretty non do able. i could see it being comfortable if you grinded down the rubber "shock" absorber
Dec 28 2011 8:32PM
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Session
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You should never talk ever again. Seriously.
Dec 28 2011 8:44PM
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onenerdykid
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Confused... are you saying they will or will not work in FTs?
Dec 28 2011 10:14PM
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.squirrely.
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if your skiing a lot of pow and cliffs i dont know if drop kicks with a 4 flex tongue are the best boot for you even if they fit good, too flexy i would think but its all personal preference really with boots
Dec 28 2011 10:20PM
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Hubsta
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This ^
Dec 28 2011 10:26PM
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roddy116
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where do your feet hurt?
Dec 29 2011 12:55AM
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I.B
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this.

I bought both fulltilts and dalbellos without going to a bootfitter.

I just visted one the other day, and got a pair of Nordica double six's. Thee most comphortable boot i've ever ridden ever.

Go to a boot fitter i can not stress this enough
Dec 29 2011 1:14AM
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Claywilliams
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Thanks for all the advice about the bootfitters and stuff, but im not super rich so ill just go with some footbeds and a new flex tongue.
Dec 29 2011 1:47AM
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Horsefacekillah
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I've tried full tilts with footbed it sucks the footbeds are to high i couldn't even put my foot in the boot
Dec 29 2011 2:17AM
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cobra_commander
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You should seriously think about 1000 times before you speak again... just saying.
Dec 29 2011 2:28AM
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I.B
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{...}
Dec 29 2011 2:31AM
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skier_boy26
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For one: not all footbeds are the same.

And two: it could very well be that FTs are too low volume for your foot?

Ultimately, the horrid footbed that comes with any boot doesn't offer shit in the way of support or longevity. If you have really flexible arches, you will typically want more support in your ski boot.
Dec 29 2011 2:35AM
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KillaSteeze
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Was it it first time using them?
Dec 29 2011 4:46AM
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onenerdykid
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This just means that either your foot is too high volume for for the boot or the footbed that was put in there was the wrong kind or both.

With the right foot in the right boot, footbeds are no problem.
Dec 29 2011 9:05AM
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belden...
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Was this a joke?

Also OP same thing happened to me when I got my classics and it sucked for like maybe the first 4 or 5 days and then they have been comfy and nice ever since i think it just takes a little time.

And yes FT's were recommended for my feet and no i don't have any footbeds in.
Dec 29 2011 9:42AM
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lucas569
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little off topic but can one choose footbed oneself or is this a bootfitter thing too?

i have ft's and they fit great but if i can get em to fit even better....
Dec 29 2011 10:03AM
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onenerdykid
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Your boot-fitter should do this, as he/she needs to assess the proper amount of support that you need. Different brands offer different things and you will not know what you need. There is usually no extra charge for this, it is included in the price of the footbed. Make sure to take in your boots and have them fit for your liners.
Dec 29 2011 10:10AM
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callmeteo
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im kinda with this guy. maybe those boots werent the right decision for the terrain youre skiing?

Dec 29 2011 11:13AM
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Mr_pretzel
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That wouldn't make your feet hurt.

That would just make you super unstable and not be able to charge.
Dec 29 2011 11:38AM
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onenerdykid
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With boots, it really doesn't matter what terrain you ski. You match your ski choice to the terrain. Your boot is matched to you.
Dec 29 2011 12:43PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Its a free service.

Walk into a shop, ask them what sort of boots will fit your feet. Every boot is different, every foot is different, whats most important is that it works well, no matter the brand or how popular and colorful it may be.

Or you can blindly buy a random boot and hope it will work, just like you've done.
Dec 29 2011 12:55PM
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whipper
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Sounds like you have flat feet. Mine did the same. BTW you can not use custom foot beads in Full Tilt Boots. They have custom foot beds in them already!!!!

    I went back to the shop and they made some arch supports that went under the foot bead. What a difference that made!!! My heel locked in better i have no more foot pain. And skiing stoke went way up!!   Its hard to explain but basically your Achilles tendon should be straight when standing from behind. If when you stand relaxed it curves in that means you have flat feet. Most people do. You'll notice if roll your foot to the outside the tendon straightens. This what your trying to emulate in the boot for better boot ski interface when rolling your edges. you'll need a little support under the foot bead to {angle } your foot up on the inside to straighten out that tendon. this will help everything Edging straight lining and most of all support the bottom of your foot so it doesn't cramp up sitting there flat all day.

Dec 29 2011 2:35PM
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Mr_pretzel
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what.
They dont even have stock footbeds.
Dec 29 2011 2:41PM
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Whatsonboss
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^^^^^ my thoughts exactly, just fitted my superfeet and saw no 'custom footbed' but a liner sat on a flat boot board?
Dec 29 2011 2:57PM
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onenerdykid
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For starters, there is nothing that comes in a FT Intuition liner. Not even a basic foam insole. Secondly, I honestly have no idea what you are talking about after that.

One of the problems with FTs liners is that the base of the liner, where your footbed would go, is soft squishy foam. So if you put a footbed inside the liner, if will probably fall to the inside, not properly supporting your foot.

One trick that works really well is using the ALINE brand footbed on top of the boot board, under the liner, and heat molding the liner over the footbed. This works really, really well for most people's feet.

Superfeet should probably just go inside the liner in most cases.
Dec 29 2011 4:25PM
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SwaggerJester5
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Im not a certified boot fitter, but I also had the same problem. It could be your boot flex, maybe try getting a stiffer tung for them. Also you can try the footbeds which I recomend, they helped me out alot. Hopefully this will help.
Dec 29 2011 4:30PM
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Whatsonboss
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I took the boot board out completely and put my superfeet inside the liner, my toes were a bit tight with the board and footbed in
Dec 29 2011 4:52PM
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cobra_commander
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you might also want to add your name to the 'needs to think a thousand times or two before before giving an opinion' list.
Dec 29 2011 5:04PM
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Whatsonboss
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It works for me do that's all that matters. Purely my experience and not an 'opinion' at all
Dec 29 2011 5:11PM
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whipper
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I did say it was hard to explain!! :]]

   The intuition liner should be great after heat molding providing they did it the way there suposed to with more volume around the foot before you place your foot in the heated liners. Like you said the rubber foot beads there and my suport is {under} the boot board at the arch. It realy helped alot for me. I only have it on my left foot. My right has good suport and arches. Made my skis when i roll my ankels over edge the same now. The left was lazy from having no arch suport. it also hurt my feet being flat in the boot.

Dec 29 2011 6:30PM
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shreddenator
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Before you spend a fortune on custom footbeds.....make sure the shell is a proper fit for your foot. Footbeds can only do so much....so don' t waste your time. Go to your local bootfitter and get it checked out. You can spend a wad of cash moulding and custom footbeds, but without a proper fitting shell it is all moot.

Dec 29 2011 8:49PM
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ballsofsteeze
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I must say i'm confused. Two questions: does your smiley face have a double chin?
Do you mean bead? or *bed*?

On the topic, I don't have footbeds but i'm considering getting some. I have the dropkicks with the 6 flex tongue and i absolutely love them. Only occasionally do i feel minimal foot pain, and i have heard footbeds are the best way to keep your feet aligned. I actually didn't know they worked in fulltilts, the guy who fitted my feet said that they wouldn't fit in the liners and they have intuitions anyway. maybe he didn't sell a brand that would fit.

kind of a pointless post. oh well good luck with making your feet feel better.
Dec 29 2011 9:26PM
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Claywilliams
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Yeah ik, but i tried my friends tounges on his seth morrisons from last year and they were way to stiff,
so between a 10 and a 4 i just went with the 4, im guna try and pick up some 6's or 8's maybe
Dec 29 2011 11:14PM
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Claywilliams
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And this is the only week i ski pow out of the year, im from the east coast but i go to utah for xmas instead of presents, so i ski park most of the time so thats why i bought these
Dec 29 2011 11:23PM
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whipper
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I have the 6,8,and 10. I like the 8 for ripping around on the jetFuels. The 6 seems good for cooler days and gives you some forgivness with softer skis like my EP pros. The 10 I find to stiff also exept in the spring on a warm day with the carvers. Then they seem fine. I had them still in from last day in april. First day this season in November it was -6 and they felt to stiff. I changed them out to the 8 and all has been great ever since.
Dec 30 2011 2:04AM
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Haellgren
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Footbeds will make big change. I have the booter and i love it . Go for footbeds ! :)
Dec 30 2011 7:51AM
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Claywilliams
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Thx dog thats hat im guna do!
+k
Dec 30 2011 6:55PM
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pastysmasher
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my ft's hurt like fuck for the first week or so but now ive broken them in they feel sweet. you probably just need to go through the breaking in phase.
Dec 30 2011 7:39PM
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Mag
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Sorry for Threadjacking but I went to a Bootfitter the other day and he highly recommended I get FT Hot Doggers, even though they didn't have them in stock he said I should try and get them from somewhere over the internet and make sure I can return them, then to bring them into the shop and they'll assess the fit and cook them and if necessary get a footbed, is this a bad decision/good decision and if so why?

thanks a LOT!
Dec 30 2011 8:57PM
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Mag
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Sorry I forgot to say, he recommended them after measuring and looking at my feet, he said definately get them rather than dalbello,
Dec 30 2011 8:59PM
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GoggleT@n
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try a different footbed or a stiffer tongue.
Dec 30 2011 9:08PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Then get them.
Dec 30 2011 9:54PM
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