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MikeWalsh
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so i went to a bootfitter who did, as far as i could tell, most of the right things, measured foot, shell fit, left me in it for 15-20mins, wouldnt let me anywhere near full tilts :p. I tryed on lots of boots but a have a pretty wide foot. anyway he said the spk fit best and in the shop it felt great.

Now i made a rookie error and didnt bring my own socks, yes i know im a fucktard, so when i put them on with my medium smartwools they feel great for about 15-25 mins but then my toes start to go fuzy and im losing blood, after an hour skiing on them there super dead and pretty painful to the extent i have to take them off.

I know that this is usually the sign of a to bigger boot being over tightened so i tryed them on there lowest tightening setting, same thing.

So i think its the sock so i try normal cotton socks, same thing. When i have the boot on without buckles done up my foot dosent move around its nicely snugg and i can wiggle my toes.

So basically i think its the socks but before i spend money on the ultra light smartwool i wanted some other opinions. so what is this? does the boot just need to pack out abit? sock? to small boots? badly fit boots?

cheers guys sorry for wall of text!
Dec 22 2011 6:52AM
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onenerdykid
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In a properly fit boot, you should only be wearing the equivalent of an ultra light sock. Do yourself the favor of getting 2 pairs (they will last longer this way since you can rotate their usage). These socks will fit better and keep your warmer. Remember- the difference between a medium and a medium wide boot is only 2mm of width, and that is the difference between those socks and your medium weight ones.
Dec 22 2011 7:26AM
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tomPietrowski
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One nerdy's advice is great, I would also guess that you did not get a footbed. You say that the ball of your foot starts to tingle then go dead. This would indicate when skiing most of your weight is on the ball of the foot. This can create a burning in teh ball of the foot which could lead to it going numb.

A footbed can help because it fills the space under the medial (inside) and lateral (outside) arches of your foot. This means when you stand in the boot the whole foot bears your weight rather then just the ball of the foot.

This problem is very common and is easy to realieve with a footbed, and possibly a shell strech if the boot is not wide enough.
Dec 22 2011 1:48PM
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POWDER.RANGER
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the same thing happened to me with my spk's, but after 3 days the liners moulded to my feet now there a perfect fit
Dec 22 2011 2:28PM
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MikeWalsh
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thank you everyone for your good advice.

i couldnt afford footbeds aswell as i only just did my christmas shop :P but after xmas im going to get them and some thin socks. also i will go back to the bootfitter for custom footbed so i can ask there if problem is continueing.

i get free alterations for the life of the boot, guessing this is pretty standard, which makes me really glad i went to a shop (if i need a shell stretch)!!! not the rinternet.
Dec 22 2011 2:55PM
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tomPietrowski
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You should be good then. You will be amazed how much of a difernce the footbeds make. Get a sidas or aline in my opion, I hate the superfeet korks and the surefoot footbeds. They suport your foot in its maxium pronation and stop it overpronating, however having a footbed where your foots starts neutral and pronates into its maxium pronation is better for freestyle from what I have found. So stick to Sidas and Aline.

Hopefully once you have the footbed no work will be needed but at least its free if you still need a strech at the 5th met.

Good luck with it hope they feel good.
Dec 22 2011 3:02PM
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MikeWalsh
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the shop i go to uses sidas so thats perfect, even if the price is a bit steep for some foam £65... o well worth it

thanks
Dec 22 2011 3:21PM
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tomPietrowski
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No problem mate, the £65 is well worth it, out here in canada they cost £180 which is the equivalent of £110 for the same exact product, so at least you get it cheaper in the UK. Which is your local shop.

Regarding your other question, you will have a heat mold liner, with that liner as there is no heat mold foam next to the shell, then just wearing the liner will do the same thing in about 4-5 days but if you had it done at the time, they would have been much more comfy straight away.

Try not to ski in the boots to much untill you get the footbeds or you may end up packing out the liner too much, because your foot will be moving more then it will when the footbed is in there.
Dec 22 2011 5:03PM
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rozboon
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Which model SPK is it? The Kaos has heat moldable tongue and ankle, it will eventually mold most of the way on it's own but I got mine pretty good just by jamming a hairdryer in them for 5 minutes or so then cramming my foot in. It probably won't help the problems you're having but might help you get them a little better once you're settled in.
Dec 22 2011 5:13PM
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tomPietrowski
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^ just so you know for next time the foam needs to get to 70celius to mold. Most shops would stick the boots on a heater for you for free, as the tech actually does nothing more then turn on the heater and give you the boots to put on.

There is no real way to heat the liners correctly at home, but as I said 4-5 days will do exactly the same thing.
Dec 22 2011 5:23PM
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MikeWalsh
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yeah its the kaos/90 when you say days should they be ski days? im not to close to any snow so can i just wear them watching tv... will that work?
Dec 22 2011 5:55PM
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tomPietrowski
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You need to be stood in a ski postion, so as long as you dont mind watching tv stood up with bent knees go for it. Its good excercise for the seaon anyway.
Dec 22 2011 5:57PM
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MikeWalsh
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shit didnt see your other post. ok so im going to get footbeds and then put them in the liners and wear them, with thin socks, by themselves for 5 days then put in the boot and should be gravy? then probably wear the boot in a bit to?
Dec 22 2011 5:59PM
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tomPietrowski
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Yes but wear them in the shell. It needs the pressure from the shel and your foot, to bed in. Or just ski in them once you have the footbeds.
Dec 22 2011 6:01PM
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MikeWalsh
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haha cool i think ive got it, when i go to get footbeds i could ask them to heat them up to 70 (seems hot?) and do it same time how long should i stay in after heating them up to let them mold?. and btw its elis brigham bristol, i was dubious at first so went in and talked to a guy and he was saying all the right things so i gave it ago... probably not the best option but im happy.
Dec 22 2011 6:04PM
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tomPietrowski
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Yeah get them molded when you get the footbeds. They will heat them up and then you need to stand in them in a ski postion fir about 5-10 min. Lean foward for 5 secs then stand up for 4secs. do that for 5-10 mins you will be good.

Brighams are the best in the Uk. I worked at the Cas shop for 5 years then moved to London, then out here to whistler. They will get you fitted up really well.
Dec 22 2011 6:08PM
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MikeWalsh
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sweet, i plan to move to canadia after unis all done. ill be going in next week to get them sorted then head up to tamworth for some snow :):)

thank you again for all your help!!
Dec 22 2011 6:15PM
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Phil-X-
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My dad and I both have wide ass feet (weird cause were both very light) and we both rock SPKs because they fit great
Dec 22 2011 9:27PM
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