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Anorexia is a bitch of disease...

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yourthemannowdog
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I'm gonna keep this comparatively short (it would be a few pages typed if i told the full story) and to the point

For the past six months I have been fighting a downward battle with anorexia and two days ago i hit my, what I hope, was the lowest point in my life. I visited the doctor to my weekly weigh in(to monitor my progress with the anorexia) and results were fatal. I slumped to 104 pounds and my heart rate was sitting at 37 bpm on the EKG. At 5 foot 10 inches and being a fully developed man my BMI dipped below 15.

Yesterday i was admitted for inpatient care at a children's hospital where i will spend my Christmas morning getting myself medically stable. I originally had plans to fly to Ireland to attend my Grand-Parents 50th anniversary, but my doctor is worried that my heart won't be able to handle it

I'm mingling with death and I'm really fucking scared to say the least, thank you for listening
Dec 14 2011 7:27AM
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yourthemannowdog
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That is one of the most disturbing things i have ever heard on the internet. I am legitimately concerned about your beliefs
Dec 14 2011 9:08PM
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.AR6rider
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Nah anorexia isnt a bitch of a disease its just a bitch disease
Dec 14 2011 9:33PM
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yourthemannowdog
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Thanks for the support man it really means a lot to me, but don't get so worked up over some of the responses in the thread. It's hard very hard to understand the disorder. I understand why someone would think its about food because that is how it's portrayed in the media. I wish the cure was as simple as eat a cheeseburger, but its not.




To those of you mentioning smoking pot, I 100% agree with you that pot should be considered in treatment for anorexia. Personally I have noticed my appetite would come back whenever i smoked. I feel if i had a prescription from the doctor that said "Smoke once before dinner time everyday" i would be in a much better place medically. Appetite stimulation is one of the longest lasting effects of cannabis and I respond extremely well to this.

The issue with cannabis is the other effects associated with it. I don't enjoy mind altering substances. The only drug i consume habitually is caffeine in my cup of coffee in the morning. Cannabis is something i can only 'enjoy' in smaller quantities and with moderation (two to three times a month). In conclusion i feel that cannabis is extremely effective, but unfortunately it is extremely controversial in nature.




I also want to say, thank you everyone is listening my story! I really am getting some positive energy off of the thread, whether it's a chuckle at someone post or reading your encouraging words.
Dec 14 2011 9:34PM
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comeatmebro
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there are MANY options with cannabis...you should really look into the possibilities it has. there are a plethora of ways to use cannabis medically without getting high. you should do some research on the subject. tinctures are a great way to get the cbd's in cannabis without the high from the thc. there are thousands of articles, how to's, etc. a little research will go a long way if you'd like to consider it as something to help you. doesn't have to be legal as long as you aren't subjected to drug testing or anything like that...
Dec 14 2011 9:38PM
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Brock.
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The absolute worst way to deal with depression. Im sorry, but you wont ever fully recover after doing a round of antidepressants, should have read up about it.
Dec 14 2011 9:57PM
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Flacko
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i was borin with an eating dissorder... basicly i never feel hungry i dont even get the munchies and if feels like im stuffing food into a small jar thats already full of food sometimes others theres no diffrence
Dec 14 2011 10:00PM
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1337
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It was mixing and matching to find out which helped me best to a degree. I'm not fucking retarded and know that the drugs weren't the only thing that were going to help me recover
Dec 14 2011 10:03PM
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TheStamos
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eating disors
Dec 14 2011 10:04PM
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Brock.
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As long as you didn't go for more than 6 months.
Dec 14 2011 10:04PM
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1337
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?
Dec 14 2011 10:05PM
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JWoods
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GUYS!!! THIS NEWS JUST IN!!! THERE IS A CURE FOR ANOREXIA ITS CALLED "EATING" AND GUESS WHAT ELSE, ITS INEXPENSIVE AND EVERYONE CAN DO IT!
Dec 14 2011 10:06PM
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Poems
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Damn, i'm real sorry.. I really hope you can get through this. I'm currently fighting depression and it really sucks. Feel better and good luck.

Dec 14 2011 10:06PM
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TheStamos
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Eating disorders are very common in narccisists and socipaths. my 2 cents.
Dec 14 2011 10:07PM
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XtRemE11
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and dont think me and some of the other posters are insulting you or anything. theres just differing opinions about how to recover. my sister suffered from anorexia, not to the point where she had to be hospitalized, but she visited doctors many times and she was pretty much at the point of being hospitalized but her and my family decided to keep her at home. in the end she did recover. and really it was her own doing. it was slow, but there was a definite turning point in her mentality. no drugs, no help other than motivation from the family.

drugs and treatments can "work" but in the end its a psychological problem, like depression, probably stemming from depression. drugs can temporarily alter your state of mind, but in the end it all has to come from you, relying on drugs is a bad idea, at most use drugs to assist in the recovery.

it just bugs me when people say "theres nothing you can do about it" "its completely out of his control" I feel that when you think the recovery has to be done for you, it can have the opposite effect. with psychological problems, it can all 100% come from yourself.

im just wondering, lets say you have a cracker in front of you, and you try to eat it. what happens? what do you feel mentally? im trying to compare this to my sister.
Dec 14 2011 10:07PM
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Brock.
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*As long as you were not consistently taking prescription Antidepressants for a day more than 6 months, your brain should still function properly and allow you to make a reasonable recovery.
Dec 14 2011 10:12PM
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1337
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i've made a reasonable recovery and i've been on meds for around a year and a half... I don't see your point?
Dec 14 2011 10:13PM
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comeatmebro
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this is all i'd like to know.
Dec 14 2011 10:27PM
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Brock.
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Theres no point in me trying to explain it, you will find out in your later years anyways. Also you will rule it out as retarded and probably just call me a troll or an idiot or something.

Google dat shit nigga.
Dec 14 2011 10:43PM
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JHendrix
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leave it to ns to turn something little to a fullon 13 yr old shitstorm
Dec 14 2011 10:43PM
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1337
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no, go on, i'm listening...
Dec 14 2011 10:45PM
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Brock.
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One of my favorite songs coincidentally is heavily based on mental illness and fear, I thinks its appropriate to share. The speaker in the lyrics is actually fear itself, which is fucking brilliant.

Hopefully you have headphones.




Dec 14 2011 10:52PM
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hot.pocket
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Quit trying to make this thread about you and how awesome you think you are because of your "internet victory."

Vibes to the OP, get well soon.
Dec 14 2011 10:59PM
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shibby
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Fuck off with your long posts. I'm not reading any of these essays that you retards are posting.

This issue is as simple as black and white. Eat food and no fucking problemos shall surface.
Dec 15 2011 12:38AM
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Mr.Gaga
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I don't think you see it the right way. Some of them in cure for anorexia are checked by nurse to make sure they dont exercise, otherwise they wake up in middle of the night to exercise like fucking olympic athletes (they'll do push-ups and set-ups in their beds for hours to burn the food they ate). Others have to be checked becose they will make themself puke.

Yes, it's ''all in your head'', brain can be fucked up. But think about it, have you ever felt super hungry at 11h30 but you had something to do so you couldn't eat... 12h30 still hungry but still busy, you eat a little something real quick... 14h30 you finish your work and you don't feel ''that'' hungry anymore, you feel like you could wait untill 19h00 for the next 'usual' meal time. Happened to all of us! or sometimes, it's late and your too tired to eat! Your girlfriend just dumped you and you don't feel like eating anything at all for a day ... some quick exemples on how your brain can affect your appetite and I don't realy know but I don't think peoples are born with anorexia. I think if for different reasons (apparence, sport/dance performance, etc) they use or used their brain to tell their body their are not hungry and they don't want to eat, the brain/body may be fucked-up and he doesn't realy know what to do when you want to eat egan.

Yes, it's all in your head, but brain is so complex. Psycologic disease like anorexia, depression, etc are as important as broken bones, tore tendon or ligament except we can't see it with X-rays.

Dec 15 2011 2:36AM
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midwestmike
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funny how all the ignorant people who are saying "just eat" have high post counts but low karma, and how all the people who actually care and are sympathizing with the OP have lower post counts and high karma.

once again to the OP, stay strong and get well soon.
Dec 15 2011 4:30AM
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0123456789
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if anyones interested i posted a response to this in Ladies men in the things we cant say thread, dont feel liike divulging my experiences with nsg,but if you/anyone is interested its there.

most importantly to the OP, good on you man, takes balls to sack up and go to the doctors and admit you have a problem, and deal with it like an adult/a man.  i never did i delt with it in my own way and got lucky i got thru my shit.  but stay strong homie, if you ever need to talk id be more than happy to listen,  just pm me.

Dec 15 2011 7:11AM
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B.Aussie
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The ignorance in this thread is astounding. + vibes OP I hope you have a good support team around you and you can get through this.
Dec 15 2011 7:28AM
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XtRemE11
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its because those people speak their mind, which on NS, being full of a bunch of hippies and pussies, doesnt usually go over well, any ounce of offensive talk and you are fucked karma wise. i dont even know if mine is bad ive never looked or cared. 
and atleast we are offering a solution that works. actually very well. not just "oh that sucks, im there for you"

Dec 15 2011 2:20PM
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B.Aussie
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Shut the fuck up. You are adding nothing but rubbish to this thread and are showing your complete and utter ignorance of what causes and cures anorexia. Please do everyone a favour and stop posting here.
Dec 15 2011 2:26PM
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XtRemE11
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he's right though, it is as simple as eating food. my sister was pretty much at the point he is at, and she basically just mentally toughened up, and started eating again, very slowly but she recovered.
 yes its a psychological problem, and you can point out a million different reasons why it starts, look at all the scientific data and research, and throw drugs, counseling, and excuses at him, but in the end it really is as simple as saying fuck this im going to eat.

your "support" just saying how sorry you are for him isnt doing shit for help.
Dec 15 2011 2:33PM
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Heart
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theres a reason your karma/post ratio is terrible...

we aren't offering "solutions" to the op because those of us who have been through emotional disorders know eating, or stopping destructive behavior, or just "being happy" aren't solutions to the problem. theres more to it than you can imagine, and its clear youve never had something anywhere near what the op has to go through. op should listen to his doctor's advice, not random ns'ers
Dec 15 2011 3:48PM
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snowisholywater
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LOL ASSHOLE
Dec 15 2011 4:37PM
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shibby
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I'm right, you're wrong. Piss off pink name.
Dec 15 2011 4:56PM
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XtRemE11
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ive been through a pretty big period of depression, lasted from 9th through 10th grade, where i wouldnt leave the house, id come home, do nothing, go to school, and come home. i had no motivation, i was kinda at the point where i didnt like being happy, being sad was like addicting almost. dont ask me why, cause yes it is retarded. but i definitely have had to deal with it, and a seperate time in junior high, but i wont count that cause JH is depressing for everyone.

that and my sister dealing with anorexia, spending 2 years with a psychiatrist as a roommate i feel like i have a pretty good idea of what its like to live with these types of things. and no you cant have other people solver your problems for you, it might be a temporary fix, but it needs to be you manning the fuck up, and changing your mentality for the better if you want to actually, fully recover. i got to a point where i could see where my depression was going to lead me, and i had to force myself to change, it took me almost a year to start to turn myself around but i did. same with my sister, and for the most part thats what my roommate though.

in the end i had no reason to be depressed, my sister and this guy have nothing at all stopping them from eating, its completely mental, and everyone has the ability to change their mentality for the better, it just takes finding the motivation and doing it. having a reason to get better helps too.
Dec 15 2011 5:00PM
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richard.
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Dec 15 2011 5:05PM
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Brock.
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I don't even have to read the second part because the fact that you are judging someone on their karma:post ratio tells me your are stupid.
Dec 15 2011 5:30PM
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yourthemannowdog
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Very good point. I made the thread asking for some support and strength, not advice. I am working with professionals who have terminal degrees in their fields. I like my team of doctors and I am confident they will help me recover.

Today my heart rate and BP were better, but i am still not allowed to walk around. Thank you everyone for hearing my story, it really does give me some strength and motivation
Dec 15 2011 5:36PM
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GORILLA.
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Dec 15 2011 5:43PM
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Porsntar
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I'm sorry but this plain stupid. Eat, Ski (exercise), Enjoy. Anorexia is defined as: is an eating disorder characterized by refusal to maintain a healthy body weight, and an obsessive fear of gaining weight. Anorexia Nervosa is a disorder. It is not a disease it is a disorder man up accept your weight and enjoy life.
Dec 15 2011 5:44PM
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Mike-O
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Good that you're getting both psychiatric and medical help. With all the support you're hopefully getting, you're basically a shoe-in for a good recovery.

I wish you the best for everything after that, keep us updated.
Dec 15 2011 6:48PM
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Flacko
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im shure he wishes he could just eat and he knows hes under weaght what your telling him to do is like telling a verry depresed man to man up and stop bieng depresed it more complicated than you would think
Dec 15 2011 11:06PM
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TheStamos
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obsessive , knew a bulimic very well. she would lie her fce off amd tell me she was fixing it
Dec 15 2011 11:09PM
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TheStamos
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used to listen to her puke in the bathroom, brushing her teeth all the time. so self concious about her looks and weight. obsessive excerciser too, would run miles even on a fucked up knee. she couldnt control it. everythin guarentee she still does it. lost cause at this point, that shit fucks with your heart and esophagus, the girl couldnt live without tums. sad . she also likes to tell everyome else what to do and to live and is a self proclaimed genious on eating disorders .
Dec 15 2011 11:15PM
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Jahrassicpark
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Damn dude suck to hear, good luck getting healthy hope everything works out
Dec 15 2011 11:19PM
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annex_
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good luck! living with an ED sucks. keep your hopes up
Dec 16 2011 12:09AM
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ChadThundercock
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smoke weed, get munchies, eat, problem solved.
Dec 16 2011 12:24AM
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steezyjibber
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+vibes hope you get better
Dec 16 2011 1:26AM
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.AR6rider.
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Drink a warm glass of milk, eat potassium cyanide capsule. Problem solved. Actually, save the milk for someone who deserves it.
Dec 16 2011 1:50AM
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squibble
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Dont give up, even when you're discouraged. good luck

and honestly you shouldn't feel guilty about starving people in other parts of the world because the things you are going through right now are equally as shitty as what they are dealing with, just on a different level. A psychological disorder isn't on the same "suffering frequency" as starving, but they both suck really bad. One day when you are healthy and happy then you should feel a bit guilty, and maybe you will actually do something to help because you know exactly what it feels like to be malnourished

for the haters: maybe you aren't capable of empathy and so we shouldn't judge you. after all you cant blame a bird who flies into a clean window, it simply couldn't see it.


Dec 16 2011 1:55AM
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zues
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sorry man hope you get better.
Dec 16 2011 2:11AM
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