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T2i vs. GoPro for starting filming?

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shmeddie
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i am starting filming on a low budget (under 1k) and i either want a t2i/t3i or a gopro. i dont that much about filming, but i want to learn. i will also be doing photography, but filming mostly.
Dec 8 2011 5:15PM
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[evan]
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GoPro 2
Dec 8 2011 5:18PM
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thebmxican6
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i would prboley get the gropro at first jjust so you can get used to filming and to see if you like it. Also you will get better at editing, so when you get a more profesinal camera such as the t2i, your edits wont suckk haha

Dec 8 2011 5:23PM
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shmeddie
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i know my way well around sony vegas, i know how to edit. i also have filmed before and i like it.
Dec 8 2011 5:27PM
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thebmxican6
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well then maybe your better off with a t2i, but your gonna have to get a tripod, or some sort of stabilaztion, a few lenses, wide angle, zoom, fishye possibly.
Dec 8 2011 5:33PM
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eheath
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check out a camera like this one..

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/749852-REG/Panasonic_HDC_SD90K_HDC_SD90_High_Definition_Camcorder.html

buy a tripod maybe a glidecam and wide angle and you'll be set for 1000 bucks.
Dec 8 2011 5:34PM
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shmeddie
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 im not really looking for a camcorder like that, i want to take pictures also. ive just narrowed it down to a canon DSLR or a gopro 2.  i just dont have much experience with nice cameras like DSLRS. just gopros, flip cams, kodak playsports, shit like that. i wanna learn though.
Dec 8 2011 5:41PM
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JStrathern
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Hm..
Dec 8 2011 5:45PM
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eheath
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If you really want take photos, you will want more than a gopro 2. Sounds like you really dont know what you want.
Dec 8 2011 5:46PM
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shmeddie
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not like those are the only things i would get, i just done some research on skiing filming and these seem like the best options, i know DSLRS and gopro are completely different things i just want to know what would be better for under 1k budget beginning
Dec 8 2011 5:47PM
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juicedrummer11
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if you really wanna learn filming and photography go with the dslr but its gonna cost a lot more than you think it will at first with tripods, batteries, sd cards, stabilization, etc, the list goes on. but if you are serious about it, a gopro will be boring after the first few times. but if you're just looking for something easy to use, something your friends can use to film you or something to just point and shoot, go with the gopro. much cheaper but much more limited.
Dec 8 2011 5:48PM
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shmeddie
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are there any reasons to buy a gopro over a DSLR
Dec 8 2011 6:11PM
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[J_Gasper]
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yeah they are bomb proof and you can use them for a POV
Dec 8 2011 6:13PM
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shmeddie
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are there any reasons to buy a gopro over a DSLR
Dec 8 2011 6:13PM
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juicedrummer11
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besides the fact that they are almost bombproof, if your filming skiing and action sports you can do really close follows and be right in the action, you can take them underwater and you can get POV shots. but if you're the one behind the lens and wanna make quality stuff its worthless. although i would say if you're really into it, buy one now and the other in a year or two because you can get creative with a small indestructo camera and a better quality more manual control camera. just my thoughts. so you gotta think what do you really wanna use it for and what is going to be the majority of your filming and what not
Dec 8 2011 6:15PM
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shmeddie
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thanks. if i go with the t2i what equipment is NECESSARY for filming? and what are some things i need to know when i get it. i have a decent dynex tripod from best buy, a homemade skate handle, and a memory card. it would come with a 55mm kit lens.
Dec 8 2011 6:32PM
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the.cheat
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thats not really a decent tripod. like a manfrotto 701 head on 055 sticks, minimum. class 10 memory cards, more batteries. the kit lens isnt good but it's usable.
Dec 8 2011 6:42PM
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shmeddie
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if i dont have the money to buy a stabilizer or expensive tripod is the gopro a better option, although ill mainly be doing follow cams and tripod shots, not much helmet cam footy
Dec 8 2011 6:45PM
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the.cheat
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if you're not interested in doing pov, save the money till you can afford
refurb t2i- 630 with kit lens, 560 without.

kit lens (or something better)- used tamron 17-50 non vc is 300-350
a couple class 10 cards-40 or so

a couple off brand batteries (5-10)

a 701 set up with 190 legs- 230

now this is the bare bare minimum, i would at the least get better legs. (upgrade to 055 legs)

you're gonna want...

a glidecam- the 2000 pro can be had for a bit more then 200 used i think.

eventually you'll probably want-

a wide angle- tokina 11-16 for 600 ish

a telephoto- canon 70-200 f4 non is is 5-600 used, 6something new.

a new tripod- sachtler ace maybe? i think thats around 500

a mic-rode videomic is about 150

battery grip- off brand for 30

mayybeee a flash set up?- you could spend 150 for a cheap strobist set up i think.


keep in mind most of these are off the top of my head numbers. but thats a reality check for potential dslr buyers. not meant to scare you off, its just a warning.

Dec 8 2011 6:53PM
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family_vacation
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then a go pro is the last camera you want.

Get the camcorder eheath recommended.
Dec 8 2011 6:53PM
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541
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/659173/

This was my 2nd camera, fairly easy to use also.
Dec 8 2011 6:54PM
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the.cheat
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and if my numbers are scary, go with that camcorder. i forgot about that while typing my post.
Dec 8 2011 6:54PM
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Canuker
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Threads, wondering the exact same thing.
Dec 8 2011 7:18PM
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shmeddie
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i watched a test and IMO, gopro is far better than that cam.
Dec 8 2011 7:32PM
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juicedrummer11
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its hard to judge a camera off of test footage on the internet..it all depends because usually they put all the footage is put into the same timeline which makes it all the same format which means there is a chance that one camera's quality may not be shown like the other ones is. and you have to look take into considerations the functions of the camera as well...a gopro has no zoom where as that other camcorder does. a gopro has a built in wide angle lens where as the other cam doesn't. so it depends really what you want to do with your camera
Dec 8 2011 7:42PM
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the.cheat
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a gopro isn't nearly as good for real filming.
Dec 8 2011 8:05PM
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grown-ninja
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you wana take pictures and are interested in a GOPRO-i dont see it?


check my threads for the cam Im selling , ill hook it up
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Dec 8 2011 8:32PM
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Dub_Digital
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im selling my hv40 for a great price, and it has a wide angle...
Dec 9 2011 12:43AM
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chris.G
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definitely look for something like the camera eheath recommended, you will be able to alot more with that than a gopro
Dec 9 2011 1:09AM
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BeerWeed
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I can't really recommend one for you since in the end it is really all up to you, but know that when you're on the mountain getting great shots with a DSLR is not as easy as it may seem. There is a lot to prepare for each shot you take and you HAVE to learn how to properly use your camera, which is definitely not something that comes quick if you're making an immediate transfer from a P&S, GoPro, or camcorder. If you're looking to simply record good times with friends and create a good amount of edits with lots of POV shots and close follow cams snag a GoPro. You can definitely produce some amazing stuff with a GoPro if you master its use (Look at Abe Kislevitz' work). If you really want to focus on quality, creativity, and all around focus on individual shots then invest in a DSLR and practice practice practice. Just my opinion, hope it helps. Have fun.
Dec 9 2011 9:29AM
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erikK
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why the fuck do people on ns think t2i's and gopros are the only cameras in existence?
Dec 9 2011 11:29AM
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TijmenDal
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/members/profile/member_id/179099/
+ Glidecam or tripod

550$

and

Canon 30D+old glass

300$ and that leaves you 150$ for old glass, which is plenty.



You won't have both in 1 package, but at least you'll be able to get good results.
Dec 9 2011 12:05PM
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49566738265
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If you are considering a Go Pro for "filming and Photography" then I'd also recommend an iPhone or a Droid. You can't honestly compare a Go Pro to a DSLR for video and especially not photos.
Dec 9 2011 3:43PM
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grown-ninja
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new t2i's are under 600 bucks right now-just saying if thats what youre looking for
Dec 9 2011 7:49PM
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JStrathern
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And I am selling one
Dec 9 2011 8:05PM
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PJS.
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lol wut. you won't consider something that doesn't take pictures...but you haven't eliminated a go pro...
Dec 9 2011 8:21PM
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introvert
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IMO, if you want to make edits, take pictures, and really get into photography and learn how to use a camera get a T2i.


If you want something to press record and go, get the GoPro.

I have both, and GoPro and a T3i and I like the t3i MUCH MUCH more
Dec 9 2011 11:48PM
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monkatizer
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your so ignorant.

that cam is better in nearly every aspect. other then durability/waterproofing
Dec 10 2011 11:36AM
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eheath
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lol wut
Dec 10 2011 1:16PM
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BieberHole69
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I seriously can't tell if we are being trolled or not...
Dec 10 2011 2:48PM
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PJS.
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Dec 10 2011 10:21PM
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remster
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WIN
Dec 11 2011 3:16AM
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shmeddie
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any takers?
Dec 13 2011 6:16PM
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MattL.
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I have a go pro and a t2i. the go pro is for Pov powder days, NOT FOR PICTURES.
Dec 13 2011 6:29PM
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willy_baller
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I was in the same position as you. I wanted to film on top of taking pictures and I enjoy working with cameras and editing. I bought a T3i with kit lens, a monopod, and an extra battery and have really enjoyed it. All of the other things people were mentioning are extremely nice to have but I am completely content with the basics right now. All the other stuff isn't completely necessary and you can work your way up to it. so I personally would recommend the T2i.
Dec 13 2011 6:36PM
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shmeddie
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can you use it for follow cams? and do you use anything to stabilize it? what kind of shots can i get with the basics?
Dec 14 2011 2:25PM
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ZachMcCarthy1
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fill out sticky

Dec 14 2011 2:26PM
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shmeddie
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with little knowledge of DSLRs, what can i get more out of between that and gopro?
Dec 14 2011 2:32PM
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Downtofilm
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Man, I don't understand. Kids come into m&a asking for an opinion on a camera to get and completly ignore everyone's opinion besides the one they want to hear. Trust me if u only have 1000$ max, go with the camera Heath showed u. I've seen that camera been used better than some people using a dslr. Buy that, then when u out grow it buy a dslr or a better video camera. Not a go pro. That's the last camera you want for tripod shots.
Dec 14 2011 2:38PM
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shmeddie
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good post. what are some ideas of camcorders
Dec 14 2011 2:43PM
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monkatizer
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this one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/749852-REG/Panasonic_HDC_SD90K_HDC_SD90_High_Definition_Camcorder.html
Dec 14 2011 3:10PM
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