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Should students be paid for the grades?

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LivingColour
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Just came back from finishing my written final (coolstorybro)and the topic was to debate if students should be paid based on academic performance, but only to like the top 30% of students. I thought it was a good idea based a couple of reasons

-makes school feel like a job unlike just another chore
-promotes competition to achieve the best grades
-increase in secondary education population

idk those were just some I could remember had a lot more...but it's a Saturday morning so I'm still dead. So what do you guys think?
Dec 3 2011 10:45AM
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iSmokeweed
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disagree. the bottom 70% would be demoralized, and they would not try as hard.
Dec 3 2011 10:48AM
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SPskier543
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Yeah pay tax dollars to you for learning shit, sounds like a great idea
Dec 3 2011 10:49AM
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LivingColour
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could just change it to all students who obtain say a 3.0 gpa will get paid and those who do better get paid even more?
Dec 3 2011 10:49AM
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LivingColour
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think of it as an investment
Dec 3 2011 10:50AM
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SPskier543
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Which would raise taxes and eventually make you pay more
Dec 3 2011 10:51AM
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Ciara
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It'd have to be done on a percentile thing. It'd cost a lot of money, what about people who are better in things like art and music rather than your typical learning off shit type of education?
Dec 3 2011 10:51AM
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.Emerson.
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Yea cause the school system is just a neverending stream of money.
Dec 3 2011 10:51AM
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LivingColour
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idk I was thinking about that also couldn't come up with a very good response except "tough cookies" =p
Dec 3 2011 10:52AM
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LivingColour
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the school wouldn't be paying for it....please think before you make ignorant comments
Dec 3 2011 10:53AM
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SPskier543
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Yes, the taxpayers would be which is fucking stupid a fucking fuck
Dec 3 2011 10:54AM
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LivingColour
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compared to all the other shit the taxpayers pay for I'm pretty sure they could squeeze in this ...also please elaborate on your argument instead of just saying "which is fucking stupid a fucking fuck"......come on man
Dec 3 2011 10:56AM
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Ciara
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I guess they could do some sort of competition within schools to say like people who overachieve in music, art, maths, english or best on the sports team gets prizes, but i spose that's kinda what scholarships are in the us?
Dec 3 2011 10:57AM
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LivingColour
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scholarships are so far ahead in a students life, you would probably achieve a better result giving the students short term rewards like say $500-1000 for having B+ grades throughout the year. That's my opinion don't hate
Dec 3 2011 10:59AM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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sounds a little ridiculous.

i think it would be a better idea to take off money from your tuition. (the money would probably go to that anyways). but it sounds better than giving the students money.
Dec 3 2011 11:00AM
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LivingColour
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yes. just yes.
Dec 3 2011 11:00AM
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SPskier543
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Taxpayers don't want to pay for any more than they have to, taxes are plenty high as they are now and there is now room to "squeeze something like this in". Local governments and towns already spend the taxpayers money on stupid petty shit, adding something like this would be retarded.
Dec 3 2011 11:01AM
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GnarshoSapian
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Absolutely not, the professor who wrote this is a fucking idiot. Its called a scholarship which is provided by by someone other than the school. getting an education costs money
Dec 3 2011 11:01AM
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SPskier543
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*no room, not now room
Dec 3 2011 11:02AM
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LivingColour
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if it were to work though it would improve the United States education stature immensely
Dec 3 2011 11:03AM
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theabortionator
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Who the fuck is going to pay them? I sure as hell won't.


Also it's a fucking stupid idea. I understand where you're coming from but it's fucking retarded. Sorry
Dec 3 2011 11:04AM
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Ciara
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This :)
Dec 3 2011 11:05AM
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SPskier543
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But it will never work and never happen. If money were to grow on trees we would all be rich, but money will never grow on trees
Dec 3 2011 11:06AM
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*rkp*
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are you fucking kidding me?


yes, let's further perpetuate this generational epidemic of narcissism and self-entitlement.


just be thankful that you live in a country where you have the privilege of a structured education system.
those who succeed should do so on their own initiative/motivation.

it's really not hard for ANYBODY (unless you have a severe medical/psychological issue) to excel in school.

Dec 3 2011 11:17AM
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Jeffmnicholas
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isnt getting to eventually go to college enough motivation?
Dec 3 2011 11:23AM
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LivingColour
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For some students, but it's one of those things like scholarships where they are so far ahead in the future kids really don't think about them, and in some cases their grades might slip due to lack of motivation and its hard to recover your grades if you have been doing badly for years (personal experience) inb4 more hate
Dec 3 2011 11:27AM
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howlongcanausern
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excellent response.

any why would the school pay students? exactly what product/service would they be providing?
Dec 3 2011 11:42AM
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.Emerson.
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>implying that I was saying the actual school would be paying, lrn2useyourbrain
Dec 3 2011 11:42AM
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LivingColour
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please find another topic to troll
Dec 3 2011 11:46AM
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geteducated
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shouldn't be rewarded for something you should be doing already.

and this concept is called bursaries/scholarships btw.
Dec 3 2011 11:54AM
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LivingColour
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please look back 4 posts
Dec 3 2011 11:54AM
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Rossberger
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Not only is this a terrible idea, but cheating would destroy this system. Do you also suggest schools put security cameras into each room to monitor cheating? lolol
Dec 3 2011 11:56AM
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SPskier543
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Should people get payed for taking dumps? I think it would be a good investment from the governmnets standpoint to pay $10 to every person everytime ther take a dump.
Dec 3 2011 11:57AM
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LivingColour
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I can't even begin to describe the arrogance of your comment
Dec 3 2011 11:57AM
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.Emerson.
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14 year old spotted.
Dec 3 2011 12:14PM
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Deezy
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I've heard of those before. they are called scholarships. they give students money to both give them incentive to work harder and afford their secondary education. there are so many ways to get money for a secondary education its ridiculous. paying students is just a waste of money because it will be spent on beer and not education. If you want money get a job.

Dec 3 2011 12:19PM
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LivingColour
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and this is why I never take this site seriously go ahead and continue to troll I'm done
Dec 3 2011 12:19PM
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Deezy
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and why would you get paid for bettering yourself? you should be paying your teachers.
you wont get paid for something unless someone else is making even more money.
Thats like asking for money to ski because you can do it well, you dont represent any companies just expect money because you are good. stupid thread.

this is clearly a first world problem. Making money learning how to make money.
Dec 3 2011 12:23PM
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.Emerson.
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I am pretty sure no one is trolling, just you are a dumbass.
Dec 3 2011 12:23PM
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Deezy
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>80% of students cheat on tests. thats why the acceptance cutoff % has been steadily increasing, its a vicious circle. students need higher marks and they cheat more. positive feedback loop. cheating is already destroying the system.



***The canadian gov will be lowering tuition costs about 25% (back to the cost during the 1992 year) because back then 25% of students were working and now its 75%. they want students at uni to be worrying about school, not worrying about paying for school.
There's your money. (if tuition is $5000, you only pay $3750, thats a saving of $1250 because the gov. loves you all) and everyone gets it (except not at every university)
Dec 3 2011 12:29PM
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DLAM
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Pretty it's called Scholarships? If you don't want to go to college than you don't get the money.
Dec 3 2011 12:42PM
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fujarome
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Yea sure, but we should also make kids who don't do well pay the school for their poor grades.
Dec 3 2011 12:48PM
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Rossberger
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I know that, I'm just saying giving students money for doing well will give even more students the incentive to cheat.
Dec 3 2011 12:53PM
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SPskier543
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what school do you go to? im just curious so i know where to stay away from
Dec 3 2011 1:03PM
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hokkanee
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Absolutely not. Paying students for grades makes it an extrinsic rewards as opposed to an intrinsic one, and the satisfaction of doing well for the sake of feeling accomplished is lost. Plus how can the public school system afford this kind of program? The education system is already facing huge economic issues with the teachers unions and I know that portland public schools can't even afford to stay open until june every year.
Sparknotes: fuck that
Dec 3 2011 1:04PM
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max...
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i don't think so. this is not the proper way to prove the education system. even if higher secondary school enrollments were a result of this, to be perfectly pragmatic here, that's not a consequence we would necessarily want.

i personally think education would improve if teachers unions were disbanded or at least had less strength. teaching jobs have become so secure that there is little incentive for teachers to actually care about how much the students are actually learning
Dec 3 2011 2:22PM
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yuck
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this, thats why scholarships exist. i think giving money to students is ridiculous unless it can only be used on their tuition / schooling. paying kids for their grades so they can save up for a car or something is total bullshit.

Dec 3 2011 2:25PM
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