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Pipe cleaner VS THall

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zascherl
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Which one is the better all around park ski
Dec 1 2011 1:52PM
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Benji.
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Got pipe cleaners this year.

A bit on the heavy side. (even mounted w/ Griffons)

Flex pattern = even throughout the ski whereas the T-Hall flexes a bit more in the tails.
-I prefer the even flex just because it feels more stable under my 6'4" frame.
-Also, I enjoy jumps more than rails so a stiffer, more even flex works for me.
-The cleaners are not really buttery in my opinion. Which makes sense considering the flex pattern.
-I did ride up with an Armada skiier and he said after skiing both skis each for a while, they became in essence the same ski. So that should make your decision a bit easier considering now all you have to do is pick the one that looks more ill. (pipe cleaners) haha

Durability: Skied about 10 days on these this year (mostly rails) and already have edge cracks all over my leading brake edge.
*** I DID NOT DETUNE. If i had i probably wouldnt have had this problem.

overall: They're probably the same in the long run. T-Hall probably a bit more buttery.







Dec 1 2011 2:04PM
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zascherl
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^^ thanks for the insight
Dec 1 2011 2:08PM
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powderhuffer.com
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for an all-around park ski, the T-Hall is most likely the better choice for you.  A cool design feature are the two hinge points in the tip and tail (the two black lines), making the tip/tail soft and playful for presses. The T-Hall also has a Carbon/Kevlar stringer for a ton of ollie/pop power and Armada used extra durable bases & edges that are designed to take urban abuse.   The T-Hall is 85ish under foot (depending on size) and has traditional camber. 

Not pushing you away from the Pipe Cleaner.  It is a great ski, but definitely a competition pipe ski.  Stiffer and specifically designed for comp level pipe skiing. 

Hope that helps....just some opinions based on skiing the T-Hall out here at PCMR. 




Dec 1 2011 2:16PM
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Frazelli
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how is the stiffness? do you know? i have the punx and they are to flexy. are the Thalls stiffer then those
Dec 6 2011 4:48PM
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