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NATURE IS EVERYTHING

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Pussy_Sauce
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Ok this has been a heated debate with one kid.


He says Nature is everything. That Dominance is natural so therefore the human relationship with their environment is entirely natural. Everything occurring and the reasons they occur are all natural.

Nov 29 2011 11:03PM
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act.resist
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we evolved from chimpanzees, we are definitely part of nature. we're also classified as animals. and any animal that lives on this earth is capable of ruining the environment, we effect nature in many ways making us part of it.

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Nov 30 2011 4:19PM
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Pussy_Sauce
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Duh bro.

Nov 30 2011 4:33PM
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squibble
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Heres some random ideas,
If everything is natural, then nothing is unnatural. And if nothing lies outside of our universe, then everything outside of the universe is unnatural.

Nature, in his definition, is not relative, taking a dump is just as natural as committing suicide. Darwin said that the goal of every species is to pass on their genes. If that's true then committing suicide isn't natural because you are going against what nature wants you to do.

I think the reason you're friend believes that violence is natural is so that he doesn't have to reflect upon humanities poor decisions. I think he's being ignorant.

Nov 30 2011 4:34PM
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Rumi.
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Nov 30 2011 4:52PM
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VT_FLO
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you can't talk about properties of things in existence without describing the nature of what is existing. There isn't a way of describing that without using the word nature because when we get down to a certain point the question of WHY isn't able to be answered by science at least at this point in time. Why do particles with mass exert gravitational force? we don't have an answer. We can only describe the relationship between mass, distance and gravitational force. The same goes for all 4 fundamental forces.
Dec 1 2011 4:55PM
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Pussy_Sauce
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Dec 1 2011 11:05PM
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wasatch_rat
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i actually agree that nature is everything. however, you cannot simplify things on terms of controller and the controlled. certain things mutually depend on each other for existence, but neither one preemptively caused the other.
Dec 1 2011 11:12PM
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prophet
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alright, now we're just sharing TED videos...

Dec 2 2011 3:24AM
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