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Kerry dead in the water

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bigJ
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Watching his 'oh God help us' midnight speech right now, wow, they are this close from accepting defeat. This is the first time that any such stunt has been pulled, he is asking for weekly debates (sign of a floundering campaign), and there have been calls by the democrats to restructure his campaign. Wow, and as I write this he is giving such a half-assed speech that the audience is barely cheering for him, and at times even booing him. I am not saying that this is over by any means, but really its just sad.



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Sep 2 2004 10:37PM
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annaSKI
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maybe somebody should make a forum dedicated to just arguing and debating about politics.


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Sep 2 2004 10:39PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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this shit will blow over by next winter.


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Sep 2 2004 10:40PM
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bigJ
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I watch the daily show every night, I have been watching it regularly for 6 years, don't try to pull that on me.



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Sep 2 2004 10:41PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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theres a cult for it. but theres no idiots allowed in, so it kind of takes the fun out of it. you go to the cult for legit arguments, and the NSG to talk smack with morons.















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Sep 2 2004 10:41PM
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bigJ
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I think that the cult needs to be started up again, we should really move it back in there for the most part



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Sep 2 2004 10:42PM
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agingeri
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Generally speaking, candidates want to debate because they think they have better ideas and can out-think (and out-talk) their opponent.

And why on earth would Kerry accept defeat before the poles are even opened? Don't kid yourself: this country is split just about 50/50: 46% for Bush, 46% for Kerry, 8% undecided.

This is going to be a very close race, no matter what either candidate says or does.


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Sep 2 2004 10:43PM
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jarossamdb7
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sorry dude but that daily shows job is making fun of the president. and eveything else possible. there is alot to make fun of so i guess in that sense it does put things into prespective but other then that.....



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it's obvious, Bush sucks.....
Sep 2 2004 10:43PM
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bigJ
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While he might not be the best speaker, Bush will clean up in a debate, that is his strong suit, and people on both sides think that, he really is a good debater, so I am not worried about it. But I still find it stupid, he needs to run the country and not worry about arguing with a yankee every week, he has better things to do.



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Sep 2 2004 10:46PM
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jarossamdb7
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last polls i saw were
47% Bush
45% Kerry
3% Nader

sucks becasue of nader



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Sep 2 2004 10:46PM
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bigJ
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don't hate the man because he acts on principal and not politics



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Sep 2 2004 10:48PM
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agingeri
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Wait a minute... did you just say that the presidential debates serve no useful purpose?

It's the ONE opportunity for the two candidates to acually have a substaintive discussion! I've been ignoring all the political rederrick from both sides, but I'm looking forward to the debates. And the more, the better, as far as I'm concerned. This campaign needs some substance. And substance doesn't come from political TV spots and preaching to the choir.


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Sep 2 2004 10:49PM
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SNOWMAN17
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bigj is winning
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Sep 2 2004 10:49PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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no, he was saying that kerry calling for weekly debates is stupid, which it is. the three usual debates will go forward, and i agree, are usefull.















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Sep 2 2004 10:51PM
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bigJ
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Yeah, I am looking forward to the debates because it has nothing to do with vietnam, Kerry is going to be naked and shivering without his 30 year old fatigues and war record, what is he gonna talk about, I also like the fact that on most of the issues they will agree



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Sep 2 2004 10:52PM
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lineskier10
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also hes saying that when a president calls for weekly debates and midnight speaches he is usually back on the ropes
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Sep 2 2004 10:52PM
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bigJ
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Lineskier knows whats up, and I think I know why, hahaha



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lineskier10
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thats like telling you to listen to rush limbaugh moron, its an extremely biased site, with questionable information
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Sep 2 2004 10:59PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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www.kerryisapedophile.com

that sites got the real scoop jarjar


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Sep 2 2004 11:02PM
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TheStamos
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i understand this is the non ski gabber but i think it should at least be in the realm of skiing in one way or another . true i dont have to open this shit up but fuck. I ski and think about skiin to get away from real world shit. So relax with the political shit. Your newschoolers post is not gonna help your party so shut the fuck up!





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Sep 2 2004 11:53PM
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ScratchCobra66
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^Hes not defending bush(talking about the first post) or talking about him for that matter, hes just stating the facts.



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Sep 8 2004 12:35PM
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Melvs
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ignorance is a bliss.
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Sep 8 2004 1:06PM
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Live2skiPE
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kerrys got more positions than paris hiltons

Sep 8 2004 1:12PM
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SohCahToa
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habe you seen that paris hilton tape? that would meanhe has like...3 or 4 positions. crappy joke
Sep 8 2004 1:44PM
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B-Wald
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someone post some proof of kerry's flip flopping. i'm not saying he never has, but it seems like all the conservatives on here are all over kerry's 'flip flopping' as much as jarjar is about bush's stupidity. it seems like you just heard it from other people, and now it's your main argument against kerry.

someone post some good sources showing the flip flops and what subjects/issues they were on.
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Sep 8 2004 1:47PM
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KingShit
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Go to these websites:

If that doesnt prove the point, we can keep on going...


http://slate.msn.com/id/2096540/

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040607-115616-3546r.htm

http://economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=2539128



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Sep 8 2004 1:52PM
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bitchassphatz
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i think both suck....i wish there was someone else to vote for. i am so sick of hearing kerry yammer about his viet nam thing, it over! we understand you helped people, it was your job, if you didn't do it you would've been a huge fucking pussy. it's not that impressive, how many other americans were in viet nam? and to bush and chaney, i'm tired of hearing them talk about the war and all the great things they did in iraq and how heavily armed we are. i just want to know what these people are doing for our future, not what they've done in the past.

straight up, i love skiing and the ecosystem is getting fucked up, how are they going to stop my snow from melting in feburary? that is my main concern. other than that, how are they going to help our people out, health insurance primarly (for when i get fucked up skiing). i feel both are going to do a shitty job. which means it's a shitty year to vote for my first time.


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You look like you were built for me; You talk like you want to steal my drink
You kiss like you already came; And that's a lift to pull a line for those with out any game

It's like damn baby; You know you can't save me
But you should still tell your people that your leaving with the band; Maybe you can show me your hustle
Neither one of us would be so lonely; If only you would come over here and hold me
I caught you trying to hide your smile behind your glass; But all of your secrets become a swing set when you laugh
And all of your regrets that you're carrying a burying; Don't mean a damn thing if there's nobody to share them with

We've been following each other all night now; We ought to be all over each other like right now
I don't like crowds lets take flight now; Cause that face that you make
Reminds me of my life now.

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Sep 8 2004 4:12PM
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ScratchCobra66
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Hes makes a brilliant point. Props.



I want it to snow.
Sep 8 2004 4:14PM
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RIO
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damn nader
Sep 8 2004 4:17PM
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mommy
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bitchassphatz wins this one.

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Sep 8 2004 4:29PM
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m1garand
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such a typical response for a liberal nimrod. jarjar you are such a perfect example of ignorance in its prime.
Sep 8 2004 4:54PM
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Melvs
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Mercer, I agree 100%. I wish politicians would talk about what they plan on doing to help the future nowadays. Instead it's all bashing the other side, or explaining why not to vote for the other. WHy not explain why to vote FOR YOU? it's bullshit, and neither side is innocnet of it. What's sad is, the american people would rather have this then have real goals for the future laid out before them. This country sucks.
-Pat Melvin
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'Who's not 18 yet? What? LA LA LA LA LA LA! I can't hear you.' - Jay
Sep 8 2004 5:17PM
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PFD
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Kerry is a fucken duche bag,

sorry to say it, and i am a democrate, but Kerry sucks, he looks like a fucken character off Scobie Doo,

bush is my man, Hell, if an Ex-coke head can be president, it justifies me going to University for politic Science...

Kerry doesn't know what the word 'Free-Trade' means, he wants' to anxe, canada,

just today i watched him bitch about canada,

and sorry fokes, who ever wins the election is, going to keep bombing the fuck out of the middle east,

I say let the world hate bush, and have him finish what his father started 10 years ago,

the sooner the 'Problem'... i mean Oil, is in the safe hands of the worlds, only Super Power,
we can all keep filling our Hummers gas tanks,
and wear our nike shoes...(sorry nike 4 the low blow)

go bush go... even thought the world hates you... just hurry up and get the fuck out of office...

it'l be cool, to see who on Ns. is still going to argue in 4 years, when we do this shit ALL OVER AGAIN!...

Kerry looks like he has Rigamortis...


Sep 8 2004 5:32PM
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m1garand
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^^ even though you make some good points, if you worked on your spelling a bit, your argument would be much more convincing... BTY- I think Kerry looks like a walking corpse.
Sep 10 2004 10:56PM
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Melvs
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I like that last line, vote with your hopes, not your fears. Bush's WHO platform is based around him and his goons scaring people enough to have their minds molded. I've seen thsi before.. but where....? oh ya...



I think that fits well. I'm not saying bush is a nazi, but it's teh premise of the whole thing...
-Pat Melvin
WBP|films


'Who's not 18 yet? What? LA LA LA LA LA LA! I can't hear you.' - Jay
Sep 10 2004 11:29PM
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Jibtech
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Interestesting.... very interesting.












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Sep 11 2004 12:42AM
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highfive
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love it.................................................................................................................................................

btw i love everything
Sep 11 2004 12:44AM
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Nickskier
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no, but with us it's different, right?...
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