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Anyone on NS know about shoulder injuries...

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openmindportrait
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I am not sure what i did i was skiing pulled a 3 off of a little side booter but under rotated and landed at 270 caught my edges and fell into some snow that was not hard snow by any means it was very light packed powder and got up and my shoulder hurt like a bitch. I could move it so it was not dislocated but I had limited motion. It has seemed to get better but I am not sure what I did. Could it be a tear in my rotator cuff??
Nov 20 2011 2:21AM
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skithesprings
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give it a few days and it will feel better. You can usually feel a snap/crackle/pop when you fuck up cartilage and especially when you you dislocate it so you would most likeky know if you had done permanent damage.

In the event that it does not improve, go see a doctor. Nobody on NS can fix your shoulder.
Nov 20 2011 2:38AM
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openmindportrait
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I am hearing some squishing and a tiny bit of popping but not much
Nov 20 2011 2:42AM
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family_vacation
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It would be impossible not to know that your shoulder was out of your socket, I can tell you that much.

I'd say ice and rest it for a few days. If it does not get better, consider a doctor. That is just my recommendation though, I am in no way qualified to answer healthcare questions.
Nov 20 2011 2:44AM
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openmindportrait
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Yeah i was just seeing if NS had anyone with a similar experience
Nov 20 2011 2:45AM
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ski0
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Hey buddy, ive heard of something very similar before. my girlfriend injured her shoulder when skiing last year. She took a bad fall on it but was able to keep skiing the rest of the day and wasnt in too much pain. She described the shoulder as feeling "weak" and "loose" the next few days. She went to a doctor and learned that she had a small tear in the cartilage of the shoulder. The doc gave her some physio exercise and told her to rest it as much as possible for about 6 weeks.

What i would recommend is googling some exercises to get your shoulder stronger. Ideally, try to find exercises that use very light dumbells or resistance bands. If your not in a ton of pain , you should be fine but rest it, get it strong and avoid falling on it again.

if u want me to ask my girlfriend any other questions shes with me now and she could be able to help u. good luck!


Nov 20 2011 2:53AM
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SkierX
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I would take it easy for the next week and then begin hitting the shoulder regimen hard. you could have done some damage and not fully dislocated, but it can set you up to be more prone to a dislocation in the future.

My first injury to my shoulder was a fall switch where my arm got trapped behind my back. I did not really know what had happened at the time, but my shoulder was sore, with limited motion and a feeling of weakness. I neglected it and needless to say, a bunch of ER visits later and I am looking at surgery in the spring.
Nov 20 2011 10:13AM
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Jibberino
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Looking for medical advice on NS=Bad idea. How about you go see a doctor if it still hurts in a couple of days, and not a bunch of 12 year olds?
Nov 20 2011 11:26AM
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openmindportrait
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Not looking for advice or any diagnosis just seeing if anyone on NS has done anything similar and what it turned out to be.
Nov 20 2011 12:10PM
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technique.
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i tore my labrum last year. it made a really squeaky sound when it happened. my arm went back causing it to dislocate out the front.
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Nov 20 2011 12:34PM
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nkmo.
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Definitely go get it checked out by a doctor. You could have separated it. Shoulder injuries suck and take a whole lot of rehab to get back to normal. I separated my shoulder a number of years ago, did all my PT, stay healthy, and it still gives me problems.
Nov 20 2011 1:15PM
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Jibberino
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Yeah, that's pretty stupid too. "I hurt my shoulder, now it makes a weird sound", will get you nothing valid from NS. I mean, what are you actually trying to do, I don't get it?
Nov 20 2011 1:21PM
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*dman
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I have a reoccurring shoulder problem and have dislocated my shoulder like 6 or 7 times. you really want to get this checked out before you ski again if you think there could be a problem. go to the doctor and do what he says. and give it a week or two. shoulder problems are a pain in the ass,especially if you develop any shoulder instability. nursing one all season is not something you want to do. dislocating your shoulder once increases the chance of it happening again like ten fold.
Nov 20 2011 1:53PM
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SuwakaFlocka
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if you have recurring dislocations and have opted to avoid surgery, your best defense is to
(1) lift weights and strength resistance to build muscle mass to stabilize it and
(2) do resistance stretches daily that simulate awkward arm positions so that the surrounding muscles are trained to stabilize the joint. not to say it won't keep happening, but it can greatly lower the chances and lower the severity of injury.
in other words: rehab and keep the joint stimulated regularly
Nov 20 2011 3:20PM
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openmindportrait
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Yeah thanks a lot guys this is really helpful. I am seeing a doctor on monday. I am sure it is not dislocated because I could move it right after the injury but the muscle weakness makes me think something is torn. Thanks guys!
Nov 20 2011 3:25PM
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SFBv420.0
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There is /was a good thread in nsg where I typed a long coherant for me reply 7 weeks post op on second torn rotator cuff surg in 4 years tore the bicep too on this one.

If your pt is hot try to marry here

Nov 21 2011 7:57AM
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SkierX
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A quick dislocation/subluxation will allow you to move your arm still immediately afterwards so long as the joint has reduced itself. The muscle "weakness" you describe sounds very similar to how my arm felt after my first few subluxations (before I started severely dislocating). A subluxation can reduce itself during a fall, but still cause underlying damage to the joint which will set you up for issues down the road if not properly dealt with. Additionally, the pain that results from a dislocation largely vanishes the moment the joint is back in alignment, especially if it was just for a very short duration.
Nov 21 2011 9:09AM
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84891jnf92048
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I hate my shoulders. My left one is double-jointed, or has really loose ligaments or something, and it pops out really easily. I popped it out on a blind 4 yesterday, but it was back in before I even knew it. Still hurt like a bitch, and I can hardly move it today.
Nov 21 2011 9:18AM
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NotGhood
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if it was just a little popper off the side of the trail i think you're over thinking it a bit. ice and rest for a week or two and you'll  be fine. if not consult a medical professional.
Nov 21 2011 9:22AM
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SkierX
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This is entirely the line of thinking that led me to where I am now.

Take it from someone who went through the process and did not go seek medical advice, and continued to ski on the injury and did not do proper rehab when I first hurt it. By the time I finally started to address it as a problem, it was too late and I need to be cut open to get fixed up.
Nov 21 2011 9:41AM
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openmindportrait
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Yeah I am agreeing with the other guy because it wasn't a bad fall by any means but I'd rather just get it checked out and make sure I am good.
Nov 21 2011 9:44AM
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BobYohan
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Here's another vote for those saying to see a doctor. If you have access to a sports medicine doctor that would be even better, since they have more training in rehab for use rather than comfort.

I had a very similar sounding injury where the shoulder was sore but did not dislocate. It was a torn labrum, and I ended up with three dislocations on that side and eventually surgery. Good luck to you dude
Nov 21 2011 3:15PM
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Benji.
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Going to the Orthopedic clinic next wednesday to check if my rotator cuff is deformed/fixable and if the nerve damage to my brachial plexus is permanent.....

Also checking if my ribs were in fact cracked. they sure feel like it... shit

I AM NOT STOKED AT ALL!

Dec 1 2011 2:40PM
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HolySchimmel
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broke my clavicule march this year, at first I didnt even think anything was really hurt and continued skiing for the rest of the day. A few days later (5 if I recall right) it was still hurting, so I went to see a doctor and he found out it was in fact broken. Luckily, I didnt need surgery or anything else, just had to keep it down a bit after that
Dec 1 2011 2:47PM
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bibs_skibum
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my thoughts are you might have done a type I AC separation. No, this is not the same as a dislocation. It involves the AC joint (acromial-clavicular, where your collar bone goes into your shoulder in other words) rather than your GH (gleno-humeral, where your arm bone goes into your shoulder in other words).

A type I separation is nothing to worry about. Its just more of a little stretch. Nothing is torn, and I wouldnt even call it a sprain.

But then again, I havent seen you in person or anything. Go see an orthopedist or a physical therapist and they can give you real information :)
Dec 1 2011 2:55PM
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TheClap.
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I did a stage 3 in my left and a stage 2 in my right, shit sucks
Dec 1 2011 3:03PM
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bibs_skibum
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yeah i type 3'ed my right a few years back, i'm still dealing with it. Shit sucks
Dec 1 2011 3:15PM
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TheClap.
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I feel ya
Dec 1 2011 8:40PM
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family_vacation
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I think I was unlucky enough to be born with really badly constructed shoulders. My right shoulder has been operated on, and the ligaments have been tighened up to keep everything stronger. In my normal shoulder, I can push it pretty far our of the socket without a whole lot of force.

Whatever though, shoulders are the reason that I got into filming, something I love now.
Dec 1 2011 8:53PM
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saskskier
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At the end of the season last year I fell off a rail on to my shoulder. Hurt like crazy, but didn't go to the doctor right away. I still had range of motion (hurt like crazy though) and finally ended up going 3 or 4 days later. Turns out I had separated my AC joint. I was told not to do much with it for 6 weeks and I would be good to go. Should have gone to physio, but it hasn't given me troubles since and I do lots of olympic lifting stuff which requires lots of shoulder flexibility. There is just a funny bump in my shoulder.
Moral of the story, it could be nothing, but it could be serious. Get it looked at.
Dec 1 2011 9:04PM
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doyle.
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i got a hairline fracture in my caller bone last year, i thought it was getting better but a eek later i snapped it just reaching down to tie my shoe and went to see the doctor to get an x-ray. so what i'm saying is if it gets any worse see a doctor
Dec 1 2011 9:05PM
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doGelyst
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I just need a good 6 months of PT and my shoulders will be golden.

Park crew is the WRONG line of work with bad shoulders....haha.
Dec 1 2011 9:06PM
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TheClap.
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separated shoulders are a bitch
Dec 1 2011 9:07PM
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hot_rod
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Shoulder inguries hurt like a mother
Dec 1 2011 11:53PM
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Tanner-D
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First time dislocation sucks so much dick
Dec 2 2011 12:08AM
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openmindportrait
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Got it checked out doctor says it is a micro tear in my rotator cuff and does not need surgery. A good friend of mine who is very good with sports medicine gave me a lot of help in how that recovery process goes and it doesn't sound bad at all. Just need to get a deep tissue massage when the scar tissue is done forming.
Dec 2 2011 12:16AM
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blong131
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lern2shoulderinjury

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Dec 2 2011 12:43AM
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Pool.
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same here, but mine subluxed out the top a couple of times, one thing that i particularly noticed was that ur shoulder feels like it is bobbing up and down a lot more than it should be, as if its about to dislocate at any time
Dec 2 2011 12:46AM
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Ben.
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Get it checked out if its still nagging you. Shoulder injuries, like most injuries, get worse when neglected.
Dec 2 2011 12:51AM
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