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Having to accept that you can't ski park the way you did before

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@nonymous
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I love park. The feeling, airtime blah blah blah we have been through all that. I would be skiing now. Know why I'm not? Because I'm injured. I know you probably don't really care (haters gonna hate) but I have just been informed that I will not be skiing park for 2 years. And when I can again, it will not be aggressive like it was before. And before you ask, I have osgood schlatters, tracking problems with my knee cap, and my tybia pops out of the hinge. I didn't make this so people could feel sorry for me. I made this thread deticated to people who have to accept that they can't ski the same anymore, no matter what reason. Haters gonna hate
Nov 19 2011 12:39AM
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SacZiplock
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You said it , haters gonna hate. How did it happen?
Nov 19 2011 12:42AM
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@nonymous
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Well of course the osgood comes along itself. My leg atrophied, and I had no muscle to support my knee. So then because it atrophied and it still is atrophied, my tYbial tuberosity pops out of the hinge and I have to get a chiro to pop it back in. Because it has popped out so much, it moves my knee cap, and puts more strain on my tybia and my patella tendon. So it just a viscous cycle of pain and agony
Nov 19 2011 12:47AM
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dmc12380
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the day i went to college my park days/progressing in the park was over. im now 4 years into college and accept that i will be no where near I was back in highschool. i still love hitting rails though and i can do the same tricks ive always done but there is little progression. I guess the only progression ive had park wise is hitting scarier urban.
Nov 19 2011 12:48AM
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@nonymous
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Sorry to hear man. Im either going to do exchange for Uni or I won't do it at all. I want to be able to push myself to the limit so ibcan get the ultimate satisfaction out of skiing. Lucky I'm only 13
Nov 19 2011 12:51AM
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nkmo.
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Quite the defeatist attitude.

At the ripe old age of 26, I am far better now than I was in high school. Progressed trickwise more last season than any season before.
Nov 19 2011 12:58AM
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SKIU4EA
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I think what he was asking was.... Was  there a defining crash or particular injury that happened to you that lead you to find out about this condition? 

Is it possible that people out there are suffering from it and may not even know what they have?

Nov 19 2011 12:59AM
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@nonymous
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Of course aggressive park skiing will aggravate it, and skateboarding, and wakeboarding
Nov 19 2011 1:01AM
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dmc12380
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its not defeatist attitude, ive just moved on to backcountry which i didnt mention. everyday i ski i get better. i guess i just have more interest skiing all mountain/backcountry now.
Nov 19 2011 1:01AM
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@nonymous
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Any type of skiing...
Nov 19 2011 1:04AM
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nkmo.
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Ah. I feel yah man. I definitely ride more slack and back as I get older. Just letting you its not impossible!
Nov 19 2011 1:04AM
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STAUSS
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yo i have a friend who had that shit back in the day.. he pt'ed through it and still skis and goes hard.  hopefully you'll be able to do the same.
Nov 19 2011 1:05AM
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@nonymous
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I can't compare my pain threshold. All i know is that if I ski on it aggressively I take the chance of ligament and tendon damage
Nov 19 2011 1:06AM
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@nonymous
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But I love the sport so much that I could push myself so far and just not care about my knee, or will I progress better when I have healed it a little andnthen ski without pain
Nov 19 2011 1:13AM
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-AP-
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Imagine if Tanner Hall was as big of a bitch as you...
Nov 19 2011 1:48AM
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Billups
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You're only 13? Deal with it, do PT, get stronger, and get back to shredding park again. If you go in with the attitude that you'll never be as good as you were, then guess what, you won't be.
Nov 19 2011 2:00AM
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@nonymous
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Man I would give anything to ski park the way I did before. I would give anything for skiing. The moment I stop skiing I will be as good as dead. Point is, physio can't do anything whil I am healing, and when I do do physio, I have to stop shredding, so I CAN get there, but the point of this thread was for the people who have things that get in way of their shredding. Parents, college, injuries etc...
Nov 19 2011 2:05AM
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SickJib_Brit
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Okay umm, Im 15 and my Knees start to hurt whenever I walk up a set of stairs, It comes and goes and my knees pop, just like how you would crack your fingers, Is this kind of what you have? Ive never really had super hard impacts on my knees or legs and have just started gettin into park and hitting larger jumps. You've got me a little worried :O lol
Nov 19 2011 2:39AM
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icon1234
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Dude I had the same thing when I was a kid. I still played sports and everything when I had it even though it sucked...
Nov 19 2011 2:48AM
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icon1234
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Yea you may have it but even if you do it's not something horrible. You should grow out of it, read up on it on wikipedia.
Nov 19 2011 2:52AM
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Billups
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My knees and ankles crack all the time. Years of abuse from skiing, soccer, and track add up. But you're young, and it's more than likely just your body growing. You should be fine.
Nov 19 2011 3:45AM
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Orrin
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This is a pretty common problem with growing teens, don't worry about it.
Nov 19 2011 6:42AM
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Needforbed
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same thing happened to a friend of mine he did his knee ligaments which somehow fast forwarded the arthritis in his knees, doc told him that if he continued skiing like he did walking would become hard and painfull. Instead of changing the way he skied he just reduced the amount of time he skied, so he only went out on days when he had friends, fresh snow and sun....
Really feel for you, i just broke my collar bone and ive been told i cant ski for 2 months, i was devastated....cant imagine how u must feel right now.
Get better and make sure u enjoy watever skiing u do.
Nov 19 2011 6:48AM
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ryhy87
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Think you just need to be a bit patient and take necessary rest/training. Must be frustrating but you're only 13...
Wish i was that young...just turned 27 and only started hitting the park about 6 months ago.
Nov 19 2011 6:58AM
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midwestpowhunter
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I wish that I hadn't already broken lt ankle twice, torn acl mcl and meniscus, had three concussions and torn the muscles in my lower back which plagues my daily even w stretching and messages. I know the feeling op cuz its tough to sit on the sidelines when all u want to do is go hard
Nov 19 2011 7:43AM
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Coalescent
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haha i love everyone who is like suck it up. because we all know exactly what the dude goes through. our typical society of those who speak too soon without knowing anything.
Nov 19 2011 7:49AM
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theabortionator
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61 posts and you're already throwing in the towel?
Nov 19 2011 8:17AM
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Bateman
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Ah thats to bad man. I have some kneecap problems my self, called jumpers knee (patellar tendonitis) wich i got from skiing / jumping too much trampoline, and just exhausting my kneecap. Thing is, i can ski and jump without any hazard, its just painful as fuck.

I should consider myself lucky compared to you, eh?
Nov 19 2011 8:42AM
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Triple_Strum
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Man I always love your posts...

Anyway, to the OG, it is really harsh that you have knee and leg problems so early. However, maybe it is a good opportunity for something else. Who knows what you might be really good at!

I remember when I could no longer do what I wanted. Near the end of college I was just getting over-weight and out of shape. That is when the injuries began. Jumps that I formerly bailed on hard and got up laughing became those that I no longer hit. First it was just crashing a 3 on a 30 ft jump and tearing an mcl. Then, it was a broken bone in my foot from trying to hit a table on pure ice and casing it. Then it was a freak accident that tore ligaments in my ankle (how one acccomplishes that in a rigid ski boot I have no idea). Now, as some said before, powder is my friend.

The best part about it though: I saw skiing for what it is - an incredible sport and a lot of enjoyment, but not an obsession that steers other parts of my life.
Nov 19 2011 9:16AM
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mountainviper
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Dude if your 13, keep the faith that it may get better. I've had 3 injuries over the years that were game changers. Like the docs were telling me each time that I'd never be the same actively. Each time I've come back better than before. One injury in particular that may apply to your scenario is when I split my achellies tendon and my anterior. If you rupture that straight across and snap it, they can basically fuse it back together and most come out of it with a stronger tendon. When it's split long ways there's not much they can do other than wait and hope it heals right. After 2 yrs of being in a soft cast I was told I'd likely limp for the rest of my life. I was lucky enough to have a shit hot young doc who convinced me to let him try a new surgery to fix it. Was given a 50/50 chance of success. Well, it worked and now I'm super active and there's only minor reminders of the old injury. My point is to not give up hope. Due to my latest big injury, I am def chillin out on goin big. Not because of physical limitations but I'm learning that these injuries rob you of a year or two each time. So I do feel ya in that respect as well.
Nov 19 2011 9:40AM
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smuggs
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park???


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Nov 19 2011 9:55AM
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OldDirtyPete
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This exactly for me too. The only thing that sucks is that all the people in my area that are my age that throw down have either gone pro and left or are starting families and shit. So I do have to put up with some young guns that call me "old man" and fuck with me, but they are fun and show me how to do quality tricks. But I will probably be in OP's shoes some day, and I am okay with that. I just want to keep learning tricks until that happens.
Nov 19 2011 4:30PM
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.Ian.
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I know exactly how you feel. I can't ski park ever again. I got 7 concussions and can't really do anything too risky for the rest of my life. I have some brain damage now, I have a hard time learning new things and can't remember anything at all. I can still cruise groomers though!

In the end I'll never regret it. It was all worth it because all the concussions were either from skiing or dirtbiking, both my favorite things, so it sucks but I'll never regret it.
Nov 19 2011 4:40PM
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JZ
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Bummer about the injury to the OP - doesn't matter the age that would be a downer

For me a combination of getting old and fat, along with moving from the midwest to the rockies, means most my ski days are in the trees or BC. I'll run through the park once and a while but its just not my favorite part of skiing anymore.
Nov 19 2011 5:22PM
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WhoopedCream
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i have pretty bad osgood schlatters but for some reason i was only out of skiing for like a month.
Nov 19 2011 6:54PM
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=FAIL=
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I have dysfunctional vestibular nerves (balance nerves) due to meningitis two years back; I was told I wouldn't enjoy sports again.
Shredding now harder than ever. It's just fucking hard by comparison to everybody else. It takes a lot longer to learn new tricks, and it's more dangerous for me to be skiing.

Oh well, no biggie compared to real injuries.
Nov 19 2011 7:42PM
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3ski6guy0
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if you dont want to get hurt in the park you can always progress your big mountain skiing and slay some cliffs
Nov 19 2011 7:56PM
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-RDG-
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i had osgood schlatters, it fucking sucks. i feel for you man
Nov 19 2011 11:48PM
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wynnyk
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had it too, now I am left with big bumps under my knee caps. I can't kneel down anymore :(
Nov 19 2011 11:55PM
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Literature
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Though we don't talk about it, we'll all face this moment. It will be many different things for many people: a serious injury, large developments in other parts of your life, or just a random thought that lodges in your cortex long enough to shift everything around it.

But no matter how much we want to push it away, the skiing that we do on Newschoolers isn't sustainable on a body. We revel in it now, and that's proper, but I don't see anything wrong with appreciating the inevitable change that's going to happen to me. Isn't that one of the beautiful things about skiing, that grandmothers doing stem christies and their kids in tall tees can both experience joy with roughly the same stuff?

Personally, I'm stoked to dial back my park skiing this year. Way more interested in cruising around, playing in pow, and leaving flat landings, icy runouts, or hard metal behind.
Nov 20 2011 12:16AM
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infedel_one
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wait what? yer counting yerself out at the age of 13? you musta been some 12 year old. I dont believe you aren't able to remedy the situation with rehab and workouts.
Nov 20 2011 1:47AM
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skithesprings
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I can honestly say that skiing pow and big lines is harder on my legs than any park run.

Growing up on the east the biggest impact I might take is overshooting a 70 foot table or stepdown. It's usually no big deal and i can get back up. Skiing out west has completely changed my perspective of things. falling in steeeeep tech areas where you basically just ragdoll sucks way harder on the knees than skiing park, especially in deep snow. Plus, your legs have to be tremendously strong to ski pow. It doesn't seem like it to us because we're all skinny athletic white kids who operate on redbull, but when you stick someone with a certain weakness in the same situation it makes things a hell of a lot harder.

and to the OP, im not ragging on you at all by saying that its a disability or a weakness, it's just something that you'll  have to work even harder to overcome and get to a place where you can be happy shredding it up on the slopes again. I wish you the best of luck.
Nov 20 2011 2:48AM
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@nonymous
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As defeatist as this may seem, if I do rehab for my jumpers knee issue I pu strain on my osgood which would then not allow me to have full rehab privileges. If I rehab my osgood, when I start jumping and landing exercises (which is a must) I risk popping my knee out. Thing is, I am a little unlucky. Since rehab is going to be so slow, like I said, I will be off skis for at least next AUSTRALIAN season. Had plans for Canada this year. See how I go...
Nov 20 2011 2:57AM
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